Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 6:17pm:


yes but Jesus said in the bible that God answers all prayers but obviously Jesus was lying.

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 6:05pm:


I understand what they are trying to say, for example a religion doesnt have the right to rape children for example. But article 9 is so hopelessly compromised that it eliminates the concept of 'a right' and replaces it with 'convenience'. Rights are by definition OFTEN inconvenient and until they are allowed to stand when they are uncomfortable and inconvenient they arent really rights at all.

freediver wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 6:05pm:


Huh?? How is it meaningless when it is actually defining and protecting religious freedom within the context of law and democracy?

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 6:21pm:



At least Nail grew up.
He found out Father Xmas wasn't true but you still
think he comes down the chimney & give you presents. 

Sickness and tragedy are not punishments, they are facts of life. Viruses attack, wars kill, tumours are formed, leukaemia strikes, blood vessels wear out and rupture, innocent people are killed by drink drivers and psychopaths acting out a drama that makes sense only within their sick minds. Accidents occur, alcohol distorts the mind, and children are killed while playing with guns. These are facts of existence, there is no theistic God directing these processes of cause and effect to whom we can appeal.

J Shelby Spong - A New Christianity for a New World.

Besides if there is a God that has the power to stop the starvation and famine and he doesn't he's not a God that I would want to know. That's not a God of love at all. That's a nasty, vindictive God that wants to play the power game. And why would someone so almighty want mere mortals to bow down and worship them. The whole thing was written to control the hordes and make them tow the line through fear of a fiery exodus.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 6:39pm:


Or .. it could be that these so called facts of existence also reflect the reality that we are no longer able to control our lives or anything in our world for that matter.

If we all take a good, hard, honest look at ourselves we might also be able to see the truth regarding ourselves. We are truly that hopeless and helpless .. we've done everything we can to destroy ourselves and our planet. We've polluted our air, our water, our land, our morals, our bodies, our minds .. there's really nothing left to damage anymore.

We've "handled" OUR situation well .. haven't we?

And if the consequences of our own actions prove negative/disastrous .. we have the hide to blame God for it.

Lisa Jones wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 6:27pm:


no it doesnt. it defines this 'right' WITHIN the framework of restrictions. In doing so it pretty much says that this 'right' can be legislated away. That makes it no longer a right but a priviledge. the freedom of specch right for instance is not a right if you are legally not allowed to comment on a raft of topics or people.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Aug 27^th, 2011 at 6:39pm:


why is it that you only ever quote idiots and morons? has it ever occured to you to research a topic INSIDE the mainstream?