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Reply #30 - Aug 29th, 2011 at 6:44pm
 
... wrote on Aug 29th, 2011 at 6:13pm:
Life_goes_on wrote on Aug 29th, 2011 at 6:11pm:
progressiveslol wrote on Aug 29th, 2011 at 6:00pm:
... wrote on Aug 29th, 2011 at 5:57pm:
the phrase 'Equal opportunity employer" in job ads is a not-so-secret code for 'white heterosexual males need not apply.'


Have you seen the list of people who get a shot before a white heterosexual males.

The world has turned to shite because we dont have the best and brightest anywhere anymore. It is all victims in most positions.


You do realise that EEO is not affirmative action?
It is the hiring the "best and brightest".
If you failed to gain a position with an EEO employer then I'd suggest that you simply weren't up to scratch in comparison with the other applicants.



So why the need to state it?
Surely picking the best person for the job is implied.



Some jobs even require a knowledge of EEO policies. God knows why.

I hope you're not playing dumb, Wesley. Affirmative action is where a job is designed (or created) solely for a particular minority group. Equal Employment Opportunity is mandated by the EEO Office. Every job advertised comes under EEO.

Positions where EEO does not apply say something like "being female (or Aboriginal, or GLBT, or having a disability) is a genuine requirement for employment and is exempt by the Office of EEO". This means that the company has to apply for exhemption. You only get exempted if the job requires females or Aboriginals or GLBTs or wogs to do it. Speaking Greek is an example of an EEO exempt job. Being a female prison guard is another.

There are very few affirmative action jobs around these days. I challenge you to do a Google search and find one.

Affirmative action is more popular in the US, which is where your righteous indignation stems from.
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Reply #31 - Aug 29th, 2011 at 6:46pm
 
karnals actually right

theres very little actual affirmative action in australia if any at all

if there is i cant find much evidence of it
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Reply #32 - Aug 29th, 2011 at 6:47pm
 
Grey wrote on Aug 29th, 2011 at 6:35pm:
Conservatives I have no problem with.


It's the reactionaries I have a problem with. Especially people who don't even know what they're reacting against.
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Reply #33 - Aug 29th, 2011 at 6:52pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Aug 29th, 2011 at 6:38pm:
Life_goes_on wrote on Aug 29th, 2011 at 6:34pm:
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So why the need to state it?
Surely picking the best person for the job is implied.


Why the need to state what?

An employer will state in a job advertisement that they are an EEO employer simply to increase the number of applicants.

SOME PEOPLE, CALLED LIBERAL VOTERS, ARE VICTIMS!!!


Elevation of the victim status of minorities?

Last week's carbon rally was pretty quiet. And if I'm not mistaken, Alan did appear to be a tad ruffled.

A victim of the Federal Police if I remember rightly. The worst thing ever to be done to democracy if I recall.
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Reply #34 - Aug 29th, 2011 at 7:10pm
 
Alan Jones aint no victim: he's on a good wicket!  Grin

Tony Abbotts got nada and is shy of economics... he reckons it's all about NATIONAL SECURITY AS OF LATE... WHAT A JOKE THIS HAS BECOME!

WHERE IS THE JOURNALISM?????

WHY AREN'T THEY ASKING TONY ABBOTT IF HE CAN SAY DUTCH DISEASE?

WHY DOES TONY ABBOTT GET THE KID GLOVES APPROACH??

LOL, DEMOCRACY IS OWNED BY INTEREST GROUPS IT WOULD SEEM....  Roll Eyes
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Reply #35 - Aug 29th, 2011 at 8:04pm
 
Karnal wrote on Aug 29th, 2011 at 6:47pm:
Grey wrote on Aug 29th, 2011 at 6:35pm:
Conservatives I have no problem with.


It's the reactionaries I have a problem with. Especially people who don't even know what they're reacting against.


I have a massive problem with what you just said!
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Reply #36 - Aug 29th, 2011 at 8:41pm
 
Youtube, this sounds reliable.
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Reply #37 - Aug 29th, 2011 at 11:09pm
 
So how long has Greens been channeling It_is_the_light???
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Reply #38 - Aug 30th, 2011 at 12:04am
 
It is all the fault of the Jews and the Freemasons Shocked
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Reply #39 - Aug 30th, 2011 at 12:43am
 
Belgarion wrote on Aug 30th, 2011 at 12:04am:
It is all the fault of the Jews and the Freemasons Shocked


Or is it the Billderburg/illuminati/NeoCon liberal bastards?
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Reply #40 - Aug 31st, 2011 at 1:50am
 
Grey wrote on Aug 30th, 2011 at 12:43am:
Belgarion wrote on Aug 30th, 2011 at 12:04am:
It is all the fault of the Jews and the Freemasons Shocked


Or is it the Billderburg/illuminati/NeoCon liberal bastards?


Thats what they want you to think  Shocked
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Reply #41 - Aug 31st, 2011 at 4:50am
 
9/11 was an inside job

these will be held accountable for their actions yes

it is so

and so it is

so be it

forgive them

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Reply #42 - Aug 31st, 2011 at 5:18am
 


Larry Silverstein no response to WTC 7 lies

There are so many unanswered questions about the days 9/11, and instead of making up theories and speculating, we go to the horses mouth to get answers, sadly the response we get from these questions only invites more speculation about what happened on 9/11.

ask questions, demand answers, We Are Patriots, We Are Fearless because We Are Change

special special thanks to William Rodriguez http://www.william911.com/
and Eugene V for being there with me
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Reply #43 - Aug 31st, 2011 at 6:39am
 
Here's a bit more evidence that doesn't tie in with the George W Bush account of events.

How did they know there would be an event to document on 9/11?


"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."

US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring.




http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fiveisraelis.html


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Reply #44 - Aug 31st, 2011 at 8:15am
 
Safari wouldn't open Pansi's link so will cut and paste it some.

A Mossad surveillance team made quite a public spectacle of themselves on 9-11.

The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards. (1)
Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming "middle-eastern" men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts of joy and mockery. (2)

"They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me" said a witness. (3)

[T]hey were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage. (4)
Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial impact (5). Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives in a Jersey City parking lot. (6)

"It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park." (7)
One anonymous phone call to the authorities actually led them to close down all of New York's bridges and tunnels. The mystery caller told the 9-1-1 dispatcher that a group of Palestinians were mixing a bomb inside of a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel. Here's the transcript from NBC News:

Dispatcher: Jersey City police.
Caller: Yes, we have a white van, 2 or 3 guys in there, they look like Palestinians and going around a building.
Caller: There's a minivan heading toward the Holland tunnel, I see the guy by Newark Airport mixing some junk and he has those sheikh uniform.
Dispatcher: He has what?
Caller: He's dressed like an Arab. (8)
(*Writer's note: Why would this mystery caller specifically say that these "Arabs" were Palestinians? How would he know that? Palestinians usually dress in western style clothes, not "sheikh uniforms")

Based on that phone call, police then issued a "Be-on-the-Lookout" alert for a white mini-van heading for the city's bridges and tunnels from New Jersey.

White, 2000 Chevrolet van with 'Urban Moving Systems' sign on back seen at Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, at the time of first impact of jetliner into World Trade Center Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion. FBI Newark Field Office requests that, if the van is located, hold for prints and detain individuals. (9)
When a van fitting that exact description was stopped just before crossing into New York, the suspicious "middle-easterners" were apprehended. Imagine the surprise of the police officers when these terror suspects turned out to be Israelis!
According to ABC’s 20/20, when the van belonging to the cheering Israelis was stopped by the police, the driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers:

"We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem." (10)
Why did he feel Palestinians were a problem for the NYPD?

The police and FBI field agents became very suspicious when they found maps of the city with certain places highlighted, box cutters (the same items that the hijackers supposedly used), $4700 cash stuffed in a sock, and foreign passports. Police also told the Bergen Record that bomb sniffing dogs were brought to the van and that they reacted as if they had smelled explosives. (11)

The FBI seized and developed their photos, one of which shows Sivan Kurzberg flicking a cigarette lighter in front of the smouldering ruins in an apparently celebratory gesture. (12)


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The Jerusalem Post later reported that a white van with a bomb was stopped as it approached the George Washington Bridge, but the ethnicity of the suspects was not revealed. Here's what the Jerusalem Post reported on September 12, 2001:

American security services overnight stopped a car bomb on the George Washington Bridge. The van, packed with explosives, was stopped on an approach ramp to the bridge. Authorities suspect the terrorists intended to blow up the main crossing between New Jersey and New York, Army Radio reported. (13)

     "...two suspects are in FBI custody after a truckload of explosives was discovered around the George Washington Bridge ... The FBI ... says enough explosives were in the truck to do great damage to the George Washington Bridge."
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It was reported the van contained tonnes of explosives (14).

What's really intriguing is that ABC's 20/20 (15), the New York Post (16), and the New Jersey Bergen Record (17) all clearly and unambiguously reported that a white van with Israelis was intercepted on a ramp near Route 3, which leads directly to the Lincoln Tunne


But the Jerusalem Post, Israeli National News (Arutz Sheva) (18), and Yediot America, (19) all reported, just as clearly and unambiguously, that a white van with Israelis was stopped on a ramp leading to the George Washington Bridge, which is several miles north of the Lincoln Tunnel.


It appears as if there may actually have been two white vans involved, one stopped on each crossing. This would not only explain the conflicting reports as to the actual location of the arrests, but would also explain how so many credible eye-witnesses all saw celebrating "middle-easterners" in a white van in so many different locations.
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