This is what the hard right are capable of.

The attack on the Pentagon.

The explosion of the buildings in time with the terrorist attack.

They new of the attack and so added to it cause this shift the world Hard Right.



So this 11th of September, consider the damage the Right has done. Consider what innocence they took.

Now those flirting with Hard Right Abbott, what danger is this man to the world?

The right wing con of "Terrorism" has stripped humanity of Rights.

Remember the Australians in GITMO ?


This is a hard right world.


Time to counter this with a strengthening of community.

yeah, but you'll have to invite some bogans.

Hicks condemns 'disgusting' September 11 attacks



Former Guantanamo Bay detainee David Hicks has spoken for the first time about the September 11 attacks on the United States, saying they were a "disgusting act".

Mr Hicks watched the drama unfold live on a TV screen in Quetta in Pakistan and has told the ABC it was hard to imagine it was possible.

"The devastation and the people jumping from the building and when they collapsed and, just... it was horrible," he said.

Despite his expressed shock, Mr Hicks made a fateful decision to return to Afghanistan, which the US would soon target in reprisal for the September 11 attacks.

In a one-hour Australian Story special to be shown on ABC1 tomorrow night, Mr Hicks talks of his experiences in militant fundamentalist training camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan, where he says he saw Osama bin Laden on numerous occasions.

Mr Hicks says he viewed bin Laden at the time as a "kind figure" and saw nothing to suggest he was a "terror mastermind".

He admits motivational videos showing terrorist attacks and Western aggression towards Muslims were shown to trainees in Afghanistan, but says they made no impression on him.

After his capture in Afghanistan in December 2001, Mr Hicks spent five years and four months in US military detention at Guantanamo Bay before being repatriated to Australia following a controversial plea deal, under which he admitted to a charge of supporting terrorism.

He has consistently denied he was aware of who ran the training camps he attended, despite the evidence of his own letters to his family in which he referred to being in "bin Laden's Arab organisation".

In the documentary, Australian Story producer Helen Grasswill puts it to Mr Hicks that those letters indicate he knew he was in camps of an organisation headed by bin Laden.

Hicks responds: "It can sound like that, sure. To take it like that out of the context of what it's placed in... bin Laden did come numerous times as a guest speaker. And he seemed to have some clout because there were many guest speakers and when he came things were conducted very differently in the camp."

It is a response that does not convince former foreign affairs minister Alexander Downer.

"Well of course [bin Laden] came to the camps to speak, he's the leader of Al Qaeda," Mr Downer told Australian Story.

"That's what leaders do - they make speeches, he razzes up the troops, denounces the West and denounces apostates. I'm sorry, that's not credible."

Torture claims

The documentary also explores Mr Hicks's controversial activities once he returned to Afghanistan from Pakistan after September 11, and his equally controversial treatment following his arrest three months later.

Mr Hicks claims to have been physically abused while in US military custody in Afghanistan and to have suffered physical and mental torture once he was moved to Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.

His account is supported by international torture authority Professor Darius Rejali.

"Yes, I think David Hicks was tortured," Professor Rejali said.

"Once you have been subjected to torture you will never be normal, ever. There will always be long-standing psychological and physical effects from torture."

But Mr Downer remains sceptical about Mr Hicks's accounts.

"We asked the Americans to investigate and we sent our own consular officer there so he could see with his own eyes but we saw no evidence of him having been tortured," he said.

"But all people who've been associated with Al Qaeda, who get captured, always claim they have been tortured. They always do."

When asked about the validity of Mr Hicks's conviction under the US military commission, Mr Dower says: "This guy was convicted in a court duly established by the US Congress, signed off by the president of the United States, and he was convicted. On his own evidence. He confessed his guilt."

Colonel Morris 'Moe' Davis, the US chief prosecutor who successfully prosecuted Mr Hicks for the retrospective offence of providing material support for terrorism, sees it differently.

"We wouldn't agree to submit an American citizen to this process, so to try to argue with a straight face that that this is real American justice is a farce," he said.

http://abc.com.au/news/2011-08-29/david-hicks-september-11-australian-story/2860...

US did Howard a 'favour'

AS HE sought re-election in 2007, John Howard called in a political ''favour'' from the US government to get any charge possible laid against David Hicks, a former Guantanamo Bay chief military prosecutor has claimed.


http://www.smh.com.au/national/us-did-howard-a-favour-20110820-1j3k3.html

Murdoch is Liberal Media?


Liberal in the Hard Right Australian Liberal Party?

... wrote on Aug 29^th, 2011 at 5:42pm:

Without a doubt. People are sick of the left and their constant crying and political correctness in every aspect of life.

The left have had their 30 odd yrs of screwing society and it is about time some sanity was returned to society.

when are moderators going to apply a crap filter to threads. this is een more absurd than the usual green-racist rubbish.