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Sep 2nd, 2011 at 12:10am
 
     
Tony Abbott denies climate change and advocates carbon tax in the same breath

Posted on 7 June 2011 by John Cook

On Sunday, Megan Evans pointed me towards a 2009 interview with Australian opposition leader Tony Abbott. It's 13 minutes long but what grabbed my attention was an answer towards the end where Abbott throws out a few climate denier myths then seamlessly transitions into arguing that a carbon tax is the best way to put a price on carbon. Yesterday morning, I uploaded the one minute answer onto YouTube:



Later that day, Aussie climate scientist Matthew England passed the YouTube clip onto Tony Jones, host of the popular and influential ABC television show Q&A. And sure enough, last night, the clip was featured on Q&A. You can watch the whole episode here (the clip airs at around the 34 minute mark).

The clip began appearing in the media today. The Sydney Morning Herald led with Abbott dogged by old carbon comment (a Channel Ten clip is embedded on the SMH article). The Australian labelled it the Abbott Carbon Debacle. Abbott was forced to defend his words as were Abbott's fellow MPs George Brandis and Christopher Pyne. Channel Ten's 7pm Project covered it tonight.

The media focus was understandably on the fact that Abbott was advocating a carbon tax as the best form of putting a price on carbon, while he currently describes it as a "toxic tax". But I must confess (which should surprise noone here), I was quite interested in his climate denial myths. In just a few sentences, he managed to hit "the science isn't settled", "it's cooling", "it hasn't warmed since 1998" and "there's no correlation between CO2 and temperature". Now that's some concentrated myth making!

As a climate denier, Tony Abbott is most famous for his statement that climate science is "absolute crap". However, that's just the tip of the iceberg - he actually has a long history of denying climate change science. Skeptical Science have been steadily extending our database of climate myth quotes beyond just U.S. politicians and here is what we have so far from Tony Abbott.

Just for reminders cause i know ya'll have seen it of course. Wink.Watch Tony telling more lies here..The youtube he wishes would go away..  Grin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPpQisoZqx4&feature=player_embedded

Read  a list of Tony Abbotts lies and myths about climate change..Be informed NOT lectured by corporate owned mouth pieces aka Alan Jones. Tell tony to come up with some real policies NOT just his constant running around the countryside like a manic egomaniac on speed telling LIES to vulnerable Australians!!!  Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

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Reply #1 - Sep 2nd, 2011 at 7:32am
 
Gimme Gimme wrote on Sep 2nd, 2011 at 12:10am:
     
We love you Julia!!! Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss


Now here is someone in denial who has no grip on reality whatsoever.
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Reply #2 - Sep 2nd, 2011 at 7:55am
 
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Sep 2nd, 2011 at 7:32am:
Gimme Gimme wrote on Sep 2nd, 2011 at 12:10am:
     
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Now here is someone in denial who has no grip on reality whatsoever.

OMG, I know, how could anyone take this person seriously and the clip in question has been done a few times and been found wanting.

The clip has been bunked atleast twice that I know of.
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Reply #3 - Sep 2nd, 2011 at 8:54am
 
I agree with Truck Stop Tony Abbott..a simple carbon tax is the best way to combat carbon pollution  Cheesy
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Reply #4 - Sep 2nd, 2011 at 1:25pm
 
It's all too hard for them huh. Wink

They can't even admit their demi god Abbott/Murdoch is a lying swine. Shocked

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Reply #5 - Sep 2nd, 2011 at 3:00pm
 
Here is a very important point.  An industrial  road we will not go down under a Liberal Government because of the faceless men behind the liberal party. Ofarrell has just killed solar and now wind farms...so thats open proof for what the liberals stand for and what a shame.

Mr Beattie warned Australia risks being left behind as the global economy shifts towards renewable energy

"I know most Queenslanders don't support it, but if we don't do this we are going to be left behind," he said.

"If we don't do the necessary research in a whole series of key areas, particularly in energy, we are going to be left behind.

"Biofuels and alternative energies, solar, geothermal; they're going to be significant drivers of the world economy by 2020 and the major driver by 2030."



so, get your kids ready to work for peanuts in the mines as there will be no other work-force soon.
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Reply #6 - Sep 2nd, 2011 at 3:05pm
 
People are whinging about a $23 a tonne carbon tax despite the fact that most people will end up with more money in their pockets if they show a little common sense and the longer we wait the greater the damage and the higher the financial cost.
How much did the Queensland floods cost this country and how much did the decade of drought cost? Now think of those events being more frequent and more extreme.
I can tell the Tea Baggers..the cost of doing nothing is going to be far greater than $23 a tonne.
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Reply #7 - Sep 2nd, 2011 at 3:06pm
 
Australia didn't discover mines, they didn't even discover electricity. We have done well though. How is that, when you have garbage about having to be on the forefront of new energy.
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Reply #8 - Sep 2nd, 2011 at 3:08pm
 
~ if they show a little common sense ~

AND there lays the problem adelcrow , its easier to vote Liberal than to have any commonsense. and we all know the easy way is the best way.
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Reply #9 - Sep 2nd, 2011 at 3:11pm
 
Quote:
~ if they show a little common sense ~

AND there lays the problem adelcrow , its easier to vote Liberal than to have any commonsense. and we all know the easy way is the best way.


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Reply #10 - Sep 2nd, 2011 at 3:12pm
 
SPOT ON!!

Australians throughout the country need to WAKE UP to Tony Abbott and his useless archaic no idea policies that will destroy our country and only make his rich mining buddies richer.

He will let public education fall to an all time low grade waste land and send all of our young uneducated men to the mines. See the pattern?

How stupid are these Abbott sycophants?

What is their problem? Why are they supporting the billionaire mates of tony Abbott and Alan Jones?

Media..the tool of the devil.

Media..Murdoch the american criminal nightmare.

Watch out all you young Howard battlers..Abbott has your life already planned for you after he takes your 'stupid' vote he'll kick your guts and send you down the mine shaft while he sips champagne with Rupert and Alan.

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Reply #11 - Sep 2nd, 2011 at 3:13pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Sep 2nd, 2011 at 3:05pm:
People are whinging about a $23 a tonne carbon tax despite the fact that most people will end up with more money in their pockets if they show a little common sense and the longer we wait the greater the damage and the higher the financial cost.
How much did the Queensland floods cost this country and how much did the decade of drought cost? Now think of those events being more frequent and more extreme.
I can tell the Tea Baggers..the cost of doing nothing is going to be far greater than $23 a tonne.



No actually you CAN'T 'tell' them that.....you only THINK it is so....

There is NO, repeat NO, historical experience that will justify that idea....
You're basing that idea on the belief that the current climate change IS manmade.....if it isn't, then the 'cost of doing nothing' is.......nothing.
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Reply #12 - Sep 2nd, 2011 at 9:09pm
 
Abbott seems to hold every possible position on the important issue. The idea that he actually supprots a tax has come up many times before. Then it seems to disappear into the ther again.

For example:

Coalition has their own carbon tax?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1305806618/0

I predicted a while back that the coalition might go into the next election as the only party with a tax as the core of their policy. Both Labor and the Greens currently plan to ditch the tax.
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Reply #13 - Sep 3rd, 2011 at 12:14am
 


Meantime...

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/purepoison/2011/09/02/elsewhere-the-guardian-excoriat...

Quote:
The Guardian excoriates the Australian media on climate

September 2, 2011 – 12:00 pm, by Jeremy Sear

Australia’s climate scientists expose shock-jock distortion tactics

    Academics catalogue the deluge of spin and misinformation of climate science by various Murdoch-owned papers

    …The resultant “debate” about the carbon tax has turned into a fact-free brawl that is sufficiently devoid of ethics to make football hooligans blush. Segments of the media, alas, do not blush…

    In response to all this, and in the absence of politicians with sufficient courage to take on the hate-mongers, some Australian academics have started to provide a platform for accountability by shining a light on the media’s practices.

Stephan Lewandowsky at The Guardian.


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Reply #14 - Sep 3rd, 2011 at 1:46am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 2nd, 2011 at 3:13pm:
adelcrow wrote on Sep 2nd, 2011 at 3:05pm:
People are whinging about a $23 a tonne carbon tax despite the fact that most people will end up with more money in their pockets if they show a little common sense and the longer we wait the greater the damage and the higher the financial cost.
How much did the Queensland floods cost this country and how much did the decade of drought cost? Now think of those events being more frequent and more extreme.
I can tell the Tea Baggers..the cost of doing nothing is going to be far greater than $23 a tonne.


No actually you CAN'T 'tell' them that.....you only THINK it is so....

There is NO, repeat NO, historical experience that will justify that idea....
You're basing that idea on the belief that the current climate change IS manmade.....if it isn't, then the 'cost of doing nothing' is.......nothing.


So we have to wait until it's history to be able to make your style of old fashion judgement?

Climate change deniers can only demonstrate they have a shallow understanding of science.
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