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Reply #45 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 12:06pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 11:52am:

sigh... this thread has zero to do with childrens weight. it is EVERYTHING to do with the state removing children form a loving family on the basis of weight.

It was already stated what they should have done. Now if they are not going to take the kids, what should they do now?
If nothing is done longie, these children will only get bigger.

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Reply #46 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 12:58pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 7:59am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2011 at 10:28pm:

cods wrote on Sep 5^th, 2011 at 8:09pm:

Maqqa wrote on Sep 5^th, 2011 at 8:05pm:

I would not be surprised the parents are also large mammals as well

Dieticians are great - you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it stop eating

So in this case - education is useless if they won't take action

If the 12 years old is 102kg - I find that to be child abuse.

Parents seems to have no will power to say NO to their own food intact and no will power to say no to their children

So how do you protect the children?

so what do you call taking kids away form loving parents???

The parents may be 'loving' but they're potentially killing the kids....

A 12 year old who weighs 102kg???........A grown man, 178cm (5 foot 8 inch) man should only weigh 78 kgs...

thats not the point. bogan parents that set bad examples for their kids by drinking fighting swearing, working only occasionally etc do much of the same thing. should their kids be removed?

Actually it IS the point...Parents setting bad examples like drinking swearing etc is not a guarantee that the children will follow the example...a 12 yr old weighing twice what he should is a physical and fixable problem, the parents were given the assistance and chance to change the situation, and didn't...

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Reply #47 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 1:01pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 12:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 7:59am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2011 at 10:28pm:

cods wrote on Sep 5^th, 2011 at 8:09pm:

Maqqa wrote on Sep 5^th, 2011 at 8:05pm:

I would not be surprised the parents are also large mammals as well

Dieticians are great - you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it stop eating

So in this case - education is useless if they won't take action

If the 12 years old is 102kg - I find that to be child abuse.

Parents seems to have no will power to say NO to their own food intact and no will power to say no to their children

So how do you protect the children?

so what do you call taking kids away form loving parents???

The parents may be 'loving' but they're potentially killing the kids....

A 12 year old who weighs 102kg???........A grown man, 178cm (5 foot 8 inch) man should only weigh 78 kgs...

thats not the point. bogan parents that set bad examples for their kids by drinking fighting swearing, working only occasionally etc do much of the same thing. should their kids be removed?

Actually it IS the point...Parents setting bad examples like drinking swearing etc is not a guarantee that the children will follow the example...a 12 yr old weighing twice what he should is a physical and fixable problem, the parents were given the assistance and chance to change the situation, and didn't...

so we just take kids if they are too fat, or too lazy or dont get good sleep...???

and who is going to take them? some foster parents in it for the money?

it is an all-round shocking example of state intrusion on families.

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Reply #48 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 1:10pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 1:01pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 12:58pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 7:59am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2011 at 10:28pm:

cods wrote on Sep 5^th, 2011 at 8:09pm:

Maqqa wrote on Sep 5^th, 2011 at 8:05pm:

I would not be surprised the parents are also large mammals as well

Dieticians are great - you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it stop eating

So in this case - education is useless if they won't take action

If the 12 years old is 102kg - I find that to be child abuse.

Parents seems to have no will power to say NO to their own food intact and no will power to say no to their children

So how do you protect the children?

so what do you call taking kids away form loving parents???

The parents may be 'loving' but they're potentially killing the kids....

A 12 year old who weighs 102kg???........A grown man, 178cm (5 foot 8 inch) man should only weigh 78 kgs...

thats not the point. bogan parents that set bad examples for their kids by drinking fighting swearing, working only occasionally etc do much of the same thing. should their kids be removed?

Actually it IS the point...Parents setting bad examples like drinking swearing etc is not a guarantee that the children will follow the example...a 12 yr old weighing twice what he should is a physical and fixable problem, the parents were given the assistance and chance to change the situation, and didn't...

so we just take kids if they are too fat, or too lazy or dont get good sleep...???

and who is going to take them? some foster parents in it for the money?

it is an all-round shocking example of state intrusion on families.

No, it seems to be on a case by case basis......There has to be a point when the state needs to intervene..

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Deborahmac09 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1619	Re: Loving children to death Reply #50 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:03pm Quote: the parents were given the assistance and chance to change the situation, and didn't... actually gizmo, it sounds like they were not given assistance. Spied on yes, assisted, um no. #1 should have been a dietician. It does not look like that happened.
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Reply #51 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:09pm

I don't see why the state should intervene.

If they want to spend all their money on pies, that's their choice.

If they want to make themselves so physically repulsive that noone could bear the thought of reproducing with them, that's their choice.

If they want to tempt strangers to point and laugh at them on the street, that's their choice.

If they want their whole lives to revolve around food, it's their choice.

They are the ones who will bear the consequences, not the state. Let them lie in the bed they make for themselves.

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Reply #52 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:11pm

... wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:09pm:

I don't see why the state should intervene.

If they want to spend all their money on pies, that's their choice.

If they want to make themselves so physically repulsive that noone could bear the thought of reproducing with them, that's their choice.

If they want to tempt strangers to point and laugh at them on the street, that's their choice.

Because it could be seen as a form of abuse.
Shall the state ignore abuse on children ?

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Reply #53 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:12pm

Deborahmac09 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:11pm:

... wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:09pm:

I don't see why the state should intervene.

If they want to spend all their money on pies, that's their choice.

If they want to make themselves so physically repulsive that noone could bear the thought of reproducing with them, that's their choice.

If they want to tempt strangers to point and laugh at them on the street, that's their choice.

Because it could be seen as a form of abuse.
Shall the state ignore abuse on children ?

It's not abuse.

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Reply #54 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:13pm

... wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:12pm:

Deborahmac09 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:11pm:

... wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:09pm:

I don't see why the state should intervene.

If they want to spend all their money on pies, that's their choice.

If they want to make themselves so physically repulsive that noone could bear the thought of reproducing with them, that's their choice.

If they want to tempt strangers to point and laugh at them on the street, that's their choice.

Because it could be seen as a form of abuse.
Shall the state ignore abuse on children ?

It's not abuse.

in your eyes it is not abuse, in mine, I have not made up my mind yet, but in the eyes of others, it would be clearly considered abuse.

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Reply #55 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:17pm

... wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:09pm:

I don't see why the state should intervene.

If they want to spend all their money on pies, that's their choice.

If they want to make themselves so physically repulsive that noone could bear the thought of reproducing with them, that's their choice.

If they want to tempt strangers to point and laugh at them on the street, that's their choice.

If they want their whole lives to revolve around food, it's their choice.

They are the ones who will bear the consequences, not the state. Let them lie in the bed they make for themselves.

Unfortunately it's the children who will bear the consequences

Then society has to bear the medical costs

Not to mention the children may live long enough to breed the next generation of the same

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Reply #56 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 8:13pm

15 and weighs in at 190kgs

The mother is thin - but why is he so large?

Lets look at the father - so the father is the problem!

They couldn't say no to him

He keeps eating and eating and eating

One freaking excuse after another

Keeps telling us how bad he feels - but not what he will do tomorrow to lose weight

http://www.theage.com.au/tv/show/the-200kg-kid/the-200kg-kid-20110826-1jdsl.html

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Reply #57 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 9:57pm

Deborahmac09 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:13pm:

... wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:12pm:

Deborahmac09 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:11pm:

... wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 2:09pm:

I don't see why the state should intervene.

If they want to spend all their money on pies, that's their choice.

If they want to make themselves so physically repulsive that noone could bear the thought of reproducing with them, that's their choice.

If they want to tempt strangers to point and laugh at them on the street, that's their choice.

Because it could be seen as a form of abuse.
Shall the state ignore abuse on children ?

It's not abuse.

in your eyes it is not abuse, in mine, I have not made up my mind yet, but in the eyes of others, it would be clearly considered abuse.

I am with you there deb...adult are responsible for children.. if we starve them we abuse them.. if we overfeed them on junk then we also abuse them..

its hard to knwo what to do though it isnt an overniht thing.. this is a few years thing..its the same everywhere go to the supermarkets and you will see the biggest people with their trollies full of junk

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Reply #58 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 10:08pm

What quals do you need to be one of the kiddy removers? How much does it pay.

I reckon it would be a really cool job. The uniform, the boots, the whip, the Alsatian called Rex.

Dragging the little chubs out of the house, setting Rex on the parents to keep them back, the occasional crack of the whip.... a few yells of "Raus! Raus!".

Awesome. Where do I sign up?

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: Loving children to death Reply #59 - Sep 7^th, 2011 at 12:01am The more I watch this the more I get angry at the father and frustrated at the mother Both are tertiary educated but they are so stupid
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