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Reply #15 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 8:59am

you could always just try doing a Buzz and belately admit that Labor are going to get creamed and that Abbott is WAY more popular than Gillard.
This is the very reason Labor should dump Gillard, now.
Abbott is not popular at all, he manages to get a better rating than the worst polling PM in history, If Labor dump Gillard ,Abbott will suffer in the polls. In fact looking at how popular Rudd is, If Labor elect Rudd Abbott would be in major trouble. The best thing for Labor to do is dump Gillard, even if Labor cant win the next election, the domino effect of dumping Gillard will give us Hockey or Turnbull as opposition leader,which would be the best thing for this country.
The very fact the libs here salivate over Gillards numbers tells us they dont want a leadership change in the Labor party,which is the very reason there should be.

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Reply #17 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 9:17am

skippy. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 8:59am:

you could always just try doing a Buzz and belately admit that Labor are going to get creamed and that Abbott is WAY more popular than Gillard.
This is the very reason Labor should dump Gillard, now.
Abbott is not popular at all, he manages to get a better rating than the worst polling PM in history, If Labor dump Gillard ,Abbott will suffer in the polls. In fact looking at how popular Rudd is, If Labor elect Rudd Abbott would be in major trouble. The best thing for Labor to do is dump Gillard, even if Labor cant win the next election, the domino effect of dumping Gillard will give us Hockey or Turnbull as opposition leader,which would be the best thing for this country.
The very fact the libs here salivate over Gillards numbers tells us they dont want a leadership change in the Labor party,which is the very reason there should be.

Oh but we do. It does not matter who is in the labor party as their leader. Abbott will be the man elected at the next election. You just have to come to terms with your partisan history.

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Reply #18 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 9:18am

skippy. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 8:59am:

you could always just try doing a Buzz and belately admit that Labor are going to get creamed and that Abbott is WAY more popular than Gillard.
This is the very reason Labor should dump Gillard, now.
Abbott is not popular at all, he manages to get a better rating than the worst polling PM in history, If Labor dump Gillard ,Abbott will suffer in the polls. In fact looking at how popular Rudd is, If Labor elect Rudd Abbott would be in major trouble. The best thing for Labor to do is dump Gillard, even if Labor cant win the next election, the domino effect of dumping Gillard will give us Hockey or Turnbull as opposition leader,which would be the best thing for this country.
The very fact the libs here salivate over Gillards numbers tells us they dont want a leadership change in the Labor party,which is the very reason there should be.

You are fantasising again, as usual, cocksvcker. Nothing will save Labor at the next election and there is no way Abbott would be replaced with these poll numbers and doubly no way if he claims Gillard's scalp as well. Back to your homo fantasies. Thinking has proved too hard for you once again.

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Reply #19 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 9:21am

skippy. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 8:59am:

you could always just try doing a Buzz and belately admit that Labor are going to get creamed and that Abbott is WAY more popular than Gillard.
This is the very reason Labor should dump Gillard, now.
Abbott is not popular at all, he manages to get a better rating than the worst polling PM in history, If Labor dump Gillard ,Abbott will suffer in the polls. In fact looking at how popular Rudd is, If Labor elect Rudd Abbott would be in major trouble. The best thing for Labor to do is dump Gillard, even if Labor cant win the next election, the domino effect of dumping Gillard will give us Hockey or Turnbull as opposition leader,which would be the best thing for this country.
The very fact the libs here salivate over Gillards numbers tells us they dont want a leadership change in the Labor party,which is the very reason there should be.

Mmmmmmmmmmm.
Abbott was the reason Rudd was dumped in the first place.
So your theory regarding Abbotts demise should Rudd return doesn't hold water skip.
Kevin Rudd may well be the preferred Labor leader today, but he is no more competent now then he was before his removal.
He is still the same dunderclumper he was then.
And if he does return, it will be as a caretaker only until the next election when Labor will have to rebuild after the flogging they are going to get from the electorate.
And somehow I suspect not one person including Rudd would be interested in being a caretaker for the Labor party.
But after the election once that person resigns as party leader, is a different matter entirely.

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Reply #20 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 9:21am

Soren wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 9:18am:

skippy. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 8:59am:

you could always just try doing a Buzz and belately admit that Labor are going to get creamed and that Abbott is WAY more popular than Gillard.
This is the very reason Labor should dump Gillard, now.
Abbott is not popular at all, he manages to get a better rating than the worst polling PM in history, If Labor dump Gillard ,Abbott will suffer in the polls. In fact looking at how popular Rudd is, If Labor elect Rudd Abbott would be in major trouble. The best thing for Labor to do is dump Gillard, even if Labor cant win the next election, the domino effect of dumping Gillard will give us Hockey or Turnbull as opposition leader,which would be the best thing for this country.
The very fact the libs here salivate over Gillards numbers tells us they dont want a leadership change in the Labor party,which is the very reason there should be.

You are fantasising again, as usual, cocksvcker. Nothing will save Labor at the next election and there is no way Abbott would be replaced with these poll numbers and doubly no way if he claims Gillard's scalp as well. Back to your homo fantasies. Thinking has proved too hard for you once again.

Do you think Tony Abbott is the best choice to lead the Country?

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Reply #22 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 9:41am

Yo Longy et al!

This week's Newspoll has excluded a record 8% of randomly-selected respondents plus the NT from its Primary voting figures...

They have weighted to then weighted the data to 'reflect the population distribution'...

As per usual, without actually asking about preferences, they have also extrapolated the TPP according to the flow of preferences in the 2010 election - despite the massive shift in Primary voting intentions...

Yet, they still claim a maximum margin of error of +/-3% - bollox!

Details here: -

http://www.newspoll.com.au/image_uploads/110902%20Federal%20Voting%20Intention%2...

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Reply #23 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 9:45am

Soren wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 9:18am:

skippy. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 8:59am:

you could always just try doing a Buzz and belately admit that Labor are going to get creamed and that Abbott is WAY more popular than Gillard.
This is the very reason Labor should dump Gillard, now.
Abbott is not popular at all, he manages to get a better rating than the worst polling PM in history, If Labor dump Gillard ,Abbott will suffer in the polls. In fact looking at how popular Rudd is, If Labor elect Rudd Abbott would be in major trouble. The best thing for Labor to do is dump Gillard, even if Labor cant win the next election, the domino effect of dumping Gillard will give us Hockey or Turnbull as opposition leader,which would be the best thing for this country.
The very fact the libs here salivate over Gillards numbers tells us they dont want a leadership change in the Labor party,which is the very reason there should be.

You are fantasising again, as usual, cocksvcker. Nothing will save Labor at the next election and there is no way Abbott would be replaced with these poll numbers and doubly no way if he claims Gillard's scalp as well. Back to your homo fantasies. Thinking has proved too hard for you once again.

Thanks for the troll,swallow. But I must point out to the newer members here that you used to have as your signature,and I quote, "I SWALLOW" so insinuating that I'm gay is just a little bit of a fantasy for you ,sweetie. Cheesy

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Reply #24 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 10:06am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 9:21am:

Soren wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 9:18am:

[quote author=skippee link=1315226219/15#15 date=1315263595]you could always just try doing a Buzz and belately admit that Labor are going to get creamed and that Abbott is WAY more popular than Gillard.
This is the very reason Labor should dump Gillard, now.
Abbott is not popular at all, he manages to get a better rating than the worst polling PM in history, If Labor dump Gillard ,Abbott will suffer in the polls. In fact looking at how popular Rudd is, If Labor elect Rudd Abbott would be in major trouble. The best thing for Labor to do is dump Gillard, even if Labor cant win the next election, the domino effect of dumping Gillard will give us Hockey or Turnbull as opposition leader,which would be the best thing for this country.
The very fact the libs here salivate over Gillards numbers tells us they dont want a leadership change in the Labor party,which is the very reason there should be.

You are fantasising again, as usual, cocksvcker. Nothing will save Labor at the next election and there is no way Abbott would be replaced with these poll numbers and doubly no way if he claims Gillard's scalp as well. Back to your homo fantasies. Thinking has proved too hard for you once again.

Do you think Tony Abbott is the best choice to lead the Country?[/quote]
Unfortunately,smithy, the answer to that is yes, the posters here that present themselves as the Liberal congo line of loonies do think Abbott is the best choice to lead this country. Roll Eyes

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Reply #25 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 10:15am

Equitist wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 9:41am:

Yo Longy et al!

This week's Newspoll has excluded a record 8% of randomly-selected respondents plus the NT from its Primary voting figures...

They have weighted to then weighted the data to 'reflect the population distribution'...

As per usual, without actually asking about preferences, they have also extrapolated the TPP according to the flow of preferences in the 2010 election - despite the massive shift in Primary voting intentions...

Yet, they still claim a maximum margin of error of +/-3% - bollox!

Details here: -

http://www.newspoll.com.au/image_uploads/110902%20Federal%20Voting%20Intention%2...

Question the science of stastics all you want, the answers are there.

Nothing worse who someone who doesnt like the stats starts playing the man and not the ball.

Newspoll, roy morgan et al are the experts in this area and are on the money.

Starting to sound like a climate change denalist there thy.

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Reply #26 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 10:38am

Verge wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 10:15am:

Equitist wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 9:41am:

Yo Longy et al!

This week's Newspoll has excluded a record 8% of randomly-selected respondents plus the NT from its Primary voting figures...

They have weighted to then weighted the data to 'reflect the population distribution'...

As per usual, without actually asking about preferences, they have also extrapolated the TPP according to the flow of preferences in the 2010 election - despite the massive shift in Primary voting intentions...

Yet, they still claim a maximum margin of error of +/-3% - bollox!

Details here: -

http://www.newspoll.com.au/image_uploads/110902%20Federal%20Voting%20Intention%2...

Question the science of stastics all you want, the answers are there.

Nothing worse who someone who doesnt like the stats starts playing the man and not the ball.

Newspoll, roy morgan et al are the experts in this area and are on the money.

Starting to sound like a climate change denalist there thy.

I'm not disputing that the Libs are shyting all over the Labs in the polls - just that Newspoll's stats are dodgy!

Moreover, they're reported selectively by the inherently-partisan Oz!

Just because they are accurate around the time of elections, does not necessarily mean that they don't tweak the figures in between to drive trends!

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Reply #27 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 10:41am

Equitist wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 10:38am:

Verge wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 10:15am:

Equitist wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 9:41am:

Yo Longy et al!

This week's Newspoll has excluded a record 8% of randomly-selected respondents plus the NT from its Primary voting figures...

They have weighted to then weighted the data to 'reflect the population distribution'...

As per usual, without actually asking about preferences, they have also extrapolated the TPP according to the flow of preferences in the 2010 election - despite the massive shift in Primary voting intentions...

Yet, they still claim a maximum margin of error of +/-3% - bollox!

Details here: -

http://www.newspoll.com.au/image_uploads/110902%20Federal%20Voting%20Intention%2...

Question the science of stastics all you want, the answers are there.

Nothing worse who someone who doesnt like the stats starts playing the man and not the ball.

Newspoll, roy morgan et al are the experts in this area and are on the money.

Starting to sound like a climate change denalist there thy.

I'm not disputing that the Libs are shyting all over the Labs in the polls - just that Newspoll's stats are dodgy!

Moreover, they're reported selectively by the inherently-partisan Oz!

Just because they are accurate around the time of elections, does not necessarily mean that they don't tweak the figures in between to drive trends!

SHYTE YOU DONT like the thought of LOOSING FOR 3 OR 4 TERMS DO YOU Grin

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Reply #28 - Sep 6^th, 2011 at 10:56am

FRED. wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 10:41am:

Equitist wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 10:38am:

Verge wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 10:15am:

Equitist wrote on Sep 6^th, 2011 at 9:41am:

Yo Longy et al!

This week's Newspoll has excluded a record 8% of randomly-selected respondents plus the NT from its Primary voting figures...

They have weighted to then weighted the data to 'reflect the population distribution'...

As per usual, without actually asking about preferences, they have also extrapolated the TPP according to the flow of preferences in the 2010 election - despite the massive shift in Primary voting intentions...

Yet, they still claim a maximum margin of error of +/-3% - bollox!

Details here: -

http://www.newspoll.com.au/image_uploads/110902%20Federal%20Voting%20Intention%2...

Question the science of stastics all you want, the answers are there.

Nothing worse who someone who doesnt like the stats starts playing the man and not the ball.

Newspoll, roy morgan et al are the experts in this area and are on the money.

Starting to sound like a climate change denalist there thy.

I'm not disputing that the Libs are shyting all over the Labs in the polls - just that Newspoll's stats are dodgy!

Moreover, they're reported selectively by the inherently-partisan Oz!

Just because they are accurate around the time of elections, does not necessarily mean that they don't tweak the figures in between to drive trends!

SHYTE YOU DONT like the thought of LOOSING FOR 3 OR 4 TERMS DO YOU Grin

how come these POLLS are only dodgy when they report labor going down.............

what happened when they reported Mr 76% were they wrong then.. or dodgy..they will be claiming the election is fixed next.... I mean they blame everything the media now the POLLS>.Abbott of course goes without saying.. its all his fault gillards in the poo..

so when they lose.. it will be election fixing..

goodness gracious me...

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