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Re: support coalition = reject economics
Reply #75 - Sep 14^th, 2011 at 3:32pm

perceptions_now wrote on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 2:43pm:

Maqqa wrote on Sep 14^th, 2011 at 1:28pm:

Put up or shut up perception

At least freediver who started this thread is now doing research based on the info I posted

So, in addition to your day job as Liberal Party Political Spin Doctor, you're also practicing to be a stand up comedian?

In the real world YOU are the one suggesting massive problems arising from Kyoto penalties and therefore, the onus is on YOU TO PROVE IT!

Despite numerous requests for detailled proofs, with real references, as usual YOU run from reality, YOU run from the Truth and YOU hide in SPIN & Obfuscation!

If I make a point, I usually put a detailed arguement, usually quote the website where details can be quickly referenced and post the relevant part/s.

This is YOUR POINT (not mine), on KYOTO & its ramifications for Australia, PROVE IT or be shown up for what you are, a Liberal Party Spin Doctor!

MIRABELLA IS ABBOTTS SHAME!

MIRABELLA IS ABBOTTS SHAME! MIRABELLA IS ABBOTTS SHAME!

MIRABELLA IS ABBOTTS SHAME!

MIRABELLA IS ABBOTTS SHAME! MIRABELLA IS ABBOTTS SHAME!

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Re: support coalition = reject economics
Reply #76 - Sep 24^th, 2011 at 12:44pm

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Seems to me that the Coalition knows far more about economics than Labor.

I'm sure Abbot knows a lot more than he is letting on too. After all, he did say in an interview a few years back that a carbon tax is the best option for reducing emissions. The point is that despite what Abbott does understand about economics, and despite what you think happened over the last few decades between Labor and Liberal, the current coalition and their supporters are openly rejecting mainstream economics.

Do you think that is a good look?

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Re: support coalition = reject economics
Reply #77 - Sep 24^th, 2011 at 12:49pm

freediver wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 12:44pm:

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Seems to me that the Coalition knows far more about economics than Labor.

I'm sure Abbot knows a lot more than he is letting on too. After all, he did say in an interview a few years back that a carbon tax is the best option for reducing emissions. The point is that despite what Abbott does understand about economics, and despite what you think happened over the last few decades between Labor and Liberal, the current coalition and their supporters are openly rejecting mainstream economics.

Do you think that is a good look?

If you are going to quote it then please reference the context of the comments rather sound bytes/bites

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49458 At my desk.	Re: support coalition = reject economics Reply #78 - Sep 24^th, 2011 at 2:10pm Fair enough. If I quote him I will include a link.
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Re: support coalition = reject economics
Reply #79 - Sep 24^th, 2011 at 3:13pm

freediver wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 12:44pm:

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Seems to me that the Coalition knows far more about economics than Labor.

I'm sure Abbot knows a lot more than he is letting on too. After all, he did say in an interview a few years back that a carbon tax is the best option for reducing emissions. The point is that despite what Abbott does understand about economics, and despite what you think happened over the last few decades between Labor and Liberal, the current coalition and their supporters are openly rejecting mainstream economics.

Do you think that is a good look?

the rejection of a carbon tax is hardly rejecting mainstream economics! In fact, it could be argued more easily that a carbon tax itself is not mainstream economics. The coalitions economic policies remain what they have always been - which is MAINSTREAM.

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Re: support coalition = reject economics
Reply #80 - Sep 24^th, 2011 at 3:23pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 3:13pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 12:44pm:

Quote:

Seems to me that the Coalition knows far more about economics than Labor.

I'm sure Abbot knows a lot more than he is letting on too. After all, he did say in an interview a few years back that a carbon tax is the best option for reducing emissions. The point is that despite what Abbott does understand about economics, and despite what you think happened over the last few decades between Labor and Liberal, the current coalition and their supporters are openly rejecting mainstream economics.

Do you think that is a good look?

the rejection of a carbon tax is hardly rejecting mainstream economics! In fact, it could be argued more easily that a carbon tax itself is not mainstream economics.

The coalitions economic policies remain what they have always been - which is MAINSTREAM.

I doubt that a Carbon Tax is Mainstream, but that said, Mainstream Economics & inept/self interested Politics & Politicians are partially responsible for the position we now find ourselves.

And that posiotion, is not a good place!

If the Coalitions policies are Mainstreet/old Economics (both Keybesian &/or Austraian), then what good is it following something, which has led us to the current mess and that shows no inkling of where we currently are, let alone has any idea on where to go now or in the future!

That said, nor does Labor!

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Re: support coalition = reject economics
Reply #81 - Sep 24^th, 2011 at 3:30pm

perceptions_now wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 3:23pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 3:13pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 12:44pm:

Quote:

Seems to me that the Coalition knows far more about economics than Labor.

I'm sure Abbot knows a lot more than he is letting on too. After all, he did say in an interview a few years back that a carbon tax is the best option for reducing emissions. The point is that despite what Abbott does understand about economics, and despite what you think happened over the last few decades between Labor and Liberal, the current coalition and their supporters are openly rejecting mainstream economics.

Do you think that is a good look?

the rejection of a carbon tax is hardly rejecting mainstream economics! In fact, it could be argued more easily that a carbon tax itself is not mainstream economics.

The coalitions economic policies remain what they have always been - which is MAINSTREAM.

I doubt that a Carbon Tax is Mainstream, but that said, Mainstream Economics & inept/self interested Politics & Politicians are partially responsible for the position we now find ourselves.

And that posiotion, is not a good place!

If the Coalitions policies are Mainstreet/old Economics (both Keybesian &/or Austraian), then what good is it following something, which has led us to the current mess and that shows no inkling of where we currently are, let alone has any idea on where to go now or in the future!

That said, nor does Labor!

in case you havent noticed the economic mess is ENTIRELY overseas. the way we have run our economy over the last 30 years has been exemplary and we are now getting the rewards in terms of a country that can weather the ecnomic storms better than anyone else.

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Re: support coalition = reject economics
Reply #82 - Sep 24^th, 2011 at 5:46pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 3:30pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 3:23pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 3:13pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 12:44pm:

Quote:

Seems to me that the Coalition knows far more about economics than Labor.

I'm sure Abbot knows a lot more than he is letting on too. After all, he did say in an interview a few years back that a carbon tax is the best option for reducing emissions. The point is that despite what Abbott does understand about economics, and despite what you think happened over the last few decades between Labor and Liberal, the current coalition and their supporters are openly rejecting mainstream economics.

Do you think that is a good look?

the rejection of a carbon tax is hardly rejecting mainstream economics! In fact, it could be argued more easily that a carbon tax itself is not mainstream economics.

The coalitions economic policies remain what they have always been - which is MAINSTREAM.

I doubt that a Carbon Tax is Mainstream, but that said, Mainstream Economics & inept/self interested Politics & Politicians are partially responsible for the position we now find ourselves.

And that posiotion, is not a good place!

If the Coalitions policies are Mainstreet/old Economics (both Keybesian &/or Austraian), then what good is it following something, which has led us to the current mess and that shows no inkling of where we currently are, let alone has any idea on where to go now or in the future!

That said, nor does Labor!

in case you havent noticed the economic mess is ENTIRELY overseas. the way we have run our economy over the last 30 years has been exemplary and we are now getting the rewards in terms of a country that can weather the ecnomic storms better than anyone else.

Whilst it is correct that we are considerably better placed, than many, in fact most other countries, WE HAVE BEEN FAR FROM EXEMPLARY!

We may also have some additional capacity to weather the current & coming Economic storms but, WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT IN A POSITION WHERE WE WILL NOT BE SEVERELY AFFECTED.

As I have said previously, both Liberal & Labor did SOME GOOD THINGS over the last 50 years or so, BUT THEY CERTAINLY DIDN'T DO ANYWHERE NEAR ENOUGH & THEY BOTH PANDERED TO THEIR OWN CONSTITUENCIES & INDULGED FAR TOO MUCH IN SELF INTEREST INSTEAD OF NATIONAL INTEREST!

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Re: support coalition = reject economics
Reply #83 - Sep 24^th, 2011 at 7:05pm

In case people have not realized - Market Fundamentalism is in terminal decline and has no balls left. People are done with it v- they are done with being forced to compete and done with society being run on a basis of artificial "competition" and success measured in terms of some people "winning" at the expense of others. Its time for unreason to move aside and a new age of human enlightenment.

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Re: support coalition = reject economics
Reply #84 - Sep 25^th, 2011 at 11:15pm

perceptions_now wrote on Sep 24^th, 2011 at 5:46pm: