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Gillard: my incompetence is Abbott's fault
Sep 20th, 2011 at 6:16pm
 
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/pms-abbott-solution...

JULIA Gillard is seeking to blame future asylum boat arrivals on Tony Abbott as Labor prepares to abandon offshore processing in the face of political deadlock.

The Prime Minister today accused Mr Abbott of neglecting the national interest by refusing to back Labor's Malaysian Solution, saying he was “terrified Malaysia would work”.

“His political opposition will see more boats come to this country - that's how reckless he's being,” Ms Gillard told ABC radio.

But the Opposition Leader said processing on Nauru remained the best option, and it was the government's responsibility to break the stalemate.

“My responsibility is to good policy and consistent policy,” Mr Abbott told Seven's Sunrise program.

“If the government wants offshore processing, it can have offshore processing, it should have offshore processing, and it should be at Nauru.”

He also held out the possibility of Coalition support for processing on Papua New Guinea's Manus Island if the government agreed to the opposition's proposed changes to the Migration Act.

But Labor is standing firm. Immigration Minister Chris Bowen said if the stalemate was not resolved the government would be forced into onshore-only processing.

The government wants to allow offshore processing in countries that provide protections offered under the UN refugee convention without having to be signatories to the agreement.

“If the legislation does fail that will mean any offshore would not be legally sound and we would not be able to proceed,” Mr Bowen said.

As the government prepares to introduce its changes to the Migration Act to parliament tomorrow, Mr Bowen accused the opposition of “Malaysia bashing”.

“Being a signatory to the refugee convention is important but it is not the be-all and end-all,” Mr Bowen told ABC Radio.

“Malaysia went into this in good faith and why should we or anybody doubt their commitment to abiding by the undertakings we have negotiated? We have negotiated this in good faith and I think some of the Malaysian bashing is very unfortunate.”

The opposition wants processing countries to be full parties to the refugee convention.

Opposition legal affairs spokesman George Brandis said the Coalition was prepared to go “some of the way” in helping the government change the Migration Act.

“But we will not tolerate an Act with absolutely no human rights protection,” he told ABC Radio.

Under Labor's Malaysian arrangement, up to 800 asylum-seekers arriving in Australia by boat would have been transferred to Kuala Lumpur in exchange for Australia accepting 4000 properly-processed refugees.

The Coalition says its alternative - reopening an offshore processing centre in Nauru - is an effective deterrent with a more humane outcome.
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Re: Gillard: my incompetence is Abbott's fault
Reply #1 - Sep 20th, 2011 at 6:17pm
 
LIBs has a bad policy = LIBs fault

Labor has a bad policy = LIBs fault

Labor has a bad policy to fix Labor's bad policy = LIBs fault
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Reply #2 - Sep 20th, 2011 at 6:24pm
 
Tony Abbott is a piss weak bigot and a prick with ears who will hide under his bed like the sniveling coward he is if he ever becomes Prime Minister
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Reply #3 - Sep 20th, 2011 at 6:26pm
 
corporate_whitey wrote on Sep 20th, 2011 at 6:24pm:
Tony Abbott is a piss weak bigot and a prick with ears who will hide under his bed like the sniveling coward he is if he ever becomes Prime Minister



That's why Gillard has 26% primary vote
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Reply #4 - Sep 20th, 2011 at 6:31pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Sep 20th, 2011 at 6:26pm:
corporate_whitey wrote on Sep 20th, 2011 at 6:24pm:
Tony Abbott is a piss weak bigot and a prick with ears who will hide under his bed like the sniveling coward he is if he ever becomes Prime Minister



That's why Gillard has 26% primary vote

Big deal, Abotts is 28%

The Coalition if they become the Government will not win an election, the Labour party will lose it. They will have no mandate and that is why they too will be pitifully weak.  Social change is coming - move with it or get rolled over by the collective.
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Reply #5 - Sep 20th, 2011 at 6:40pm
 
had to take this govt seriously... it really is..blame blame blame.. from the govt that said AND THE BUCK STOPS WITH ME..lol..

so far they have tried to dodge everything...

shes a nasty piece of goods isnt she..

first she doesnt want to give single pensioners an increase claims they dont vote for labor..

then she pretends to be kevins friend

then she stabs him in the back all the time smiling smiling..

then she tells us THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX..

then she TELLS US THERE WILL BE A TOXIC TAX SO THERE>>> FOOLED YA!

and NO YOU CANT HAVE A SAY IN IT>> SO SUCK IT UP..

now everything she touches turns to ashes.. and its all the LIBS fault..


hey I see where Wayne got treasurer of the year.. Cheesy

do you think they might give Costello a bit of credit for leaving them a surplus and a great economy????.dont be silly!
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Reply #6 - Sep 20th, 2011 at 7:10pm
 
Seriously, give it up Julia. We've had it. Who:

1. got rid of the successful Pacific Solution?
2. stuffed up the pink batts?
3. promised no carbon tax, then introduced one?
4. promised to not send boat people to a non signatory of the UN convention?
5. is supporting an MP who used union funds to stick his manhood up pros?

We're not stupid, take responsibility for your own actions. Yes, Mr Abbott and the Coalition are being negative, but what other way is there to be about this pathetic, inept, corrupt, incompetent so called government?
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Reply #7 - Sep 20th, 2011 at 8:32pm
 
Looks like Abbott's going to vote to keep the boats comming.

Hypocrits support this while at the same time posting other topics complaining about the refugees.

How do you guys justify playing both sides of the fence at the same time?

Remember Abbott freely made the offer to help change the legislation then he quickly regeged on his own deal.

Yes, how many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky ?
Yes, how many big ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry ?
Yes, how many deaths will it take till he knows
That too many people have died ?
The answer Mr Abbott is blowin 'with the wind
Tony is blowin' with the wind.
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Reply #8 - Sep 20th, 2011 at 8:45pm
 
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The Prime Minister today accused Mr Abbott of neglecting the national interest by refusing to back Labor's Malaysian Solution, saying he was “terrified Malaysia would work”.

“His political opposition will see more boats come to this country - that's how reckless he's being,”
Ms Gillard told ABC radio.



Sums it up nicely.
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Reply #9 - Sep 20th, 2011 at 8:48pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Sep 20th, 2011 at 8:45pm:
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The Prime Minister today accused Mr Abbott of neglecting the national interest by refusing to back Labor's Malaysian Solution, saying he was “terrified Malaysia would work”.

“His political opposition will see more boats come to this country - that's how reckless he's being,”
Ms Gillard told ABC radio.



Sums it up nicely.



That's utter stupidity even by your standard dna

Labor created this mess and they are trying to allocate blame

If Abbott did the same you would be scream blue murder
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Reply #10 - Sep 20th, 2011 at 8:53pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Sep 20th, 2011 at 8:48pm:
Dnarever wrote on Sep 20th, 2011 at 8:45pm:
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The Prime Minister today accused Mr Abbott of neglecting the national interest by refusing to back Labor's Malaysian Solution, saying he was “terrified Malaysia would work”.

“His political opposition will see more boats come to this country - that's how reckless he's being,”
Ms Gillard told ABC radio.



Sums it up nicely.



That's utter stupidity even by your standard dna

Labor created this mess and they are trying to allocate blame

If Abbott did the same you would be scream blue murder



If Abbott wants to block fixing the problem he should be happy to accept the blame for the results of his action - its very obviously what he deserves.
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Reply #11 - Sep 20th, 2011 at 8:59pm
 
Watch cspan from capitial hill and you'll know Tony's next move.
His playing from the exact same playbook as the repugs over there.
Power at all costs, never mind the damage, we'll try and clean it up once we are in power.
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Reply #12 - Sep 20th, 2011 at 9:02pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 20th, 2011 at 8:59pm:
Watch cspan from capitial hill and you'll know Tony's next move.
His playing from the exact same playbook as the repugs over there.
Power at all costs, never mind the damage, we'll try and clean it up once we are in power.

P off with your power at all costs. Juliar lied to the Australian people to get power at all cost. She told the people that they were extremists for thinking the way they do.

Labor, power at all costs.
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Reply #13 - Sep 20th, 2011 at 9:04pm
 
progressiveslol wrote on Sep 20th, 2011 at 9:02pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 20th, 2011 at 8:59pm:
Watch cspan from capitial hill and you'll know Tony's next move.
His playing from the exact same playbook as the repugs over there.
Power at all costs, never mind the damage, we'll try and clean it up once we are in power.

P off with your power at all costs. Juliar lied to the Australian people to get power at all cost. She told the people that they were extremists for thinking the way they do.

Labor, power at all costs.


Do you enjoy being manipulated by corporate interests?
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Reply #14 - Sep 20th, 2011 at 9:20pm
 
I think it is marvellous that Abbott and Gillard's ridiculous race to the bottom on asylum seekers, and their desperate attempts to play politics over the issue, will actually lead to the end of off-shore processing for a long time to come.

If the Liberals don't support the Labor amendments while they are in opposition, they sure as hell won't get their own amendments passed through  when they are in Government. The Greens won't be supporting the legislation and its highly likely they will still have the balance of power in the Senate come 2013.

The two majors cut off their noses to spite their face and we get onshore processing for at least another electoral cycle.

Every cloud does have a silver lining.
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