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Reply #45 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 12:56pm

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 12:33pm:

funny thing is I have never looked on longy as an abuser I must have been reading you all wrong all these years longy..

I can only guess everybodies idea of abuse is different to mine!!!!!!!..

I have been called over the coals for abuse by mantra as it happens.. which we sorted out I am glad to say.. but when she posted up for me what she called abuse.. I sort of couldnt see it.. maybe it was because it was my own?????... so likewise longies abuse has escaped me as well.

Okaaay... Look come clean Freediver. You want all the left wing voices off the forum? Just say so, because the way this is panning out is barking right ridiculous Grin

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Reply #46 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:02pm

astro_surf wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 12:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 9:32am:

barnaby joe wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 9:31am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 9:26am:

barnaby joe wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 9:23am:

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3) Idiocy. I have a low threshold for genuine stupidity. Not mistakes, not errors of judgement but full-blown cringe-worthy idiocy. There is a growing amount of that. It needs to stop as well. I’m not referring to Bill_crany/Prevailing/Corporate_whitey or Wharfy and their type. They are probably literally insane and you can just filter them out. I mean those whose posts have all the feel of a drunken rant or a drug-fuelled fantasy. They need to end as well.

so why didnt you just refer in name to who you were obviously talking about there

deathridesahorse comes instantly to mind. gimme gimmme (his alter ego) as well

are you serious about the alter ego comment or are you just guessing? now that you're a mod you can check IPs, is gimme gimme DRAH? i had a suspicion for a bit too but only because they both love using smilies

I dont knwo how to checky IPs (yet) but gimme gimme sounds just liek DRAH without the drug-fuelled stupidity.

LOL, this should be a fun train wreck to watch, LW is always accusing people of beng me. Like I give enough of a poo about htis forum to be creating sock puppets. LW jumps at shadows, he's going to be a more paranoid despot than Stalin! Grin

Seriously though, ban me, I'm not having anything to do with a forum run by a complete nut like LW. There is nothing in his history that leads me to conclude he will exercise his authority with anyhing approaching a dipassionat and non-biased manner. The guy is a straight ideological warrior.

LW YOU ARE A PAEDOPHILE SEX OFENDER! BAN ME front bottom!!

Unlike yourself who is so bi-partisan and not an ideologue. Giver me a second while I cough up a big loogy.

You are just upset that your ideology is not in power, just like the next election. It just gets worse for you.

LW will be fair and we all get dragged into the abuse from time to time. LW is no different and I have faith the job LW does, will be worth the effort.

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Reply #47 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:06pm

Grey wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 12:12pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 12:05pm:

corporate_whitey wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 11:54am:

How come I get singled out? The haters chief rep longweekend notices the normally abusive, intolerant evil behavior of the haters has reached new lows so he singles out the peace makers and the targets of abuse for special mention? Way to not be able to see the splinter in my eye for the plank in your own bigots and warmongers. Now go kick a few more off the dole - there's an enlightened chap.

you got singled out for NOT being deleted and banned due to your mental illness. every new identity you assume has a new irrational target.

In other words you don't like his style or politics, so it's alright to single him out and call him 'mentally ill'?

Fail.

Can't see I have much future here when somebody whose bias is so obvious gets to be the mod.

Grey, corporate_whitey posted for many years on the Yahoo boards under several different IDs.....
And if you'd read those posts, you'd see that calling him 'mentally ill' is the most charitable choice....

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Reply #48 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:07pm

Tho they whinge and whine the most about "lefties" as someone that has been here for around five years now I've never seen so many rightards on this forum, they've taken the place over, and now with LWs appointment that really has taken it to the next step. I can see cods whinge and bitch about every post I make to her mate now.
It is a massive mistake to make one of the worst abusers on this forum a mod, massive.

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Improving this board - and ourselves Reply #49 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:08pm You can't ban corporate whitey, gimme gimme or death rides a horse for having a point of view. I consider myself to be quite sane, and I agree with much of what they say. If anyone gets banned for having an opposing veiw you may as well just have a 'right wing only' forum. Free speech rules!!!!
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Reply #50 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:10pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:08pm:

You can't ban corporate whitey, gimme gimme or death rides a horse for having a point of view. I consider myself to be quite sane, and I agree with much of what they say. If anyone gets banned for having an opposing veiw you may as well just have a 'right wing only' forum.

Free speech rules!!!!

deadhorse is a special case. He SPAMs with impunity. That needs to stop, surely you agree?

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Reply #51 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:11pm

progressiveslol wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:10pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:08pm:

You can't ban corporate whitey, gimme gimme or death rides a horse for having a point of view. I consider myself to be quite sane, and I agree with much of what they say. If anyone gets banned for having an opposing veiw you may as well just have a 'right wing only' forum.

Free speech rules!!!!

deadhorse is a special case. He SPAMs with impunity. That needs to stop, surely you agree?

so does maqqa.

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Reply #52 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:12pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:08pm:

You can't ban corporate whitey, gimme gimme or death rides a horse for having a point of view. I consider myself to be quite sane, and I agree with much of what they say. If anyone gets banned for having an opposing veiw you may as well just have a 'right wing only' forum.

Free speech rules!!!!

Deathrides wouldn't be so bad if he/she'd at least let us know WHAT his threads are about, instead of posting one sentence 'responses' to something on another site...

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #53 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:14pm

skippy. wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:11pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:10pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:08pm:

You can't ban corporate whitey, gimme gimme or death rides a horse for having a point of view. I consider myself to be quite sane, and I agree with much of what they say. If anyone gets banned for having an opposing veiw you may as well just have a 'right wing only' forum.

Free speech rules!!!!

deadhorse is a special case. He SPAMs with impunity. That needs to stop, surely you agree?

so does maqqa.

Im talking about a one line response with all the emoticons and doing a copy paste to fill a novel, not articles that can be the catayst of debate (what maqqa does).

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Reply #54 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:20pm

This is in reply to the thread deleted.

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You lot need to calm the bugger down.

Astro pull your head in, If you get a ban for this thread you bloody well deserve it. Suck it up & either bugger off for good or return & post reasonable arguments & don't go bloody postal if someone disagree's, point where you think they are wrong, maybe a little public humilation thrown in(SUBTLE NOT OVERT) & move on.

Gimme & Skip, I have been crossing swords with Longy for close to a decade now & have never been abused by him.
Keep your posts on the topic you are discussing, don't fall into personal abuse & he doesn't either.
Sure a stupid or dumb may fall into the post but I hardly consider that abuse & if he let's one of those slip first well there's your invite to go to town.

The problem with most from BOTH sides is you guys don't try & defeat the policy idea/direction, you try & beat the poster & in doing so turn political arguments into personal, it then all just turns to sh!t.

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Reply #55 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:32pm

Grey wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 12:56pm:

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 12:33pm:

funny thing is I have never looked on longy as an abuser I must have been reading you all wrong all these years longy..

I can only guess everybodies idea of abuse is different to mine!!!!!!!..

I have been called over the coals for abuse by mantra as it happens.. which we sorted out I am glad to say.. but when she posted up for me what she called abuse.. I sort of couldnt see it.. maybe it was because it was my own?????... so likewise longies abuse has escaped me as well.

Okaaay... Look come clean Freediver. You want all the left wing voices off the forum? Just say so, because the way this is panning out is barking right ridiculous Grin

Not true.
I think any sane person can put up with reasonable discussion but unfortunately its been noticeable in the last few months that more and more cretins are starting idiotic threads like "Do Liberals eat children" etc.

I have no party allegiance, heck I don't even vote in Australia anymore. I am fortunate enough to live in the United States now but I do take an interest in Australia and what is best for it.

If the debate has dropped down to the level seen on here, then the country really is going down the sh!tter.

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Reply #56 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:45pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 8:54am:

If you have been here for more than a few weeks you will have noticed that these forums – particularly the Politicians Suck board – has become a far less pleasant place of late. We ALL need to change our ways to make this a more fun place to be and to debate/complain/shout our particular point of view. The problems I see are as follows:

1) Thread spamming. We don’t need 43 threads on Oakeshott and Windsor. We don’t need the daily anti-Bolt thread nor do we need the daily I hate Gillard rant. New threads need to be genuinely new topics. Good topics are being lost in the flood of rubbish. I am asking people to voluntarily (at this stage) limit themselves to a maximum of three new threads per day.

2) Abuse. We all know who the main offenders are. We debate robustly and we mock and hassle each other from our own points of view. This is the way of real debate. But some cross the line. We need to reign in the truly offensive, the hate, the vile accusations and the bully actions. These WILL change.

3) Idiocy. I have a low threshold for genuine stupidity. Not mistakes, not errors of judgement but full-blown cringe-worthy idiocy. There is a growing amount of that. It needs to stop as well. I’m not referring to Bill_crany/Prevailing/Corporate_whitey or Wharfy and their type. They are probably literally insane and you can just filter them out. I mean those whose posts have all the feel of a drunken rant or a drug-fuelled fantasy. They need to end as well.

I have noticed that a lot of previously good posters have either left or joined the ‘dark side’ of ugly debate. That is in response to the growing shrill and bitter atmosphere here. A reasonable thread with reasonable posts gets lost in the growing storm of crap flowing around here.

It needs to change and it will change as each of us just tones it down a bit. I can dish it out pretty well myself and I need to dial it back as well. But there is a line; a line over which we should not cross or even get close to crossing. A growing number however are crossing it almost daily.

This is OUR board, our place to vent, to mock to applaud and to complain. If it is to return to that kind of place these things must stop.

Your assistance is requested.

global moderator, lol!

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Reply #57 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:46pm

progressiveslol wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:14pm:

skippy. wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:11pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:10pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:08pm:

You can't ban corporate whitey, gimme gimme or death rides a horse for having a point of view. I consider myself to be quite sane, and I agree with much of what they say. If anyone gets banned for having an opposing veiw you may as well just have a 'right wing only' forum.

Free speech rules!!!!

deadhorse is a special case. He SPAMs with impunity. That needs to stop, surely you agree?

so does maqqa.

Im talking about a one line response with all the emoticons and doing a copy paste to fill a novel, not articles that can be the catayst of debate (what maqqa does).

Chaos Theory, ...end of! Roll Eyes

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Reply #58 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:51pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 12:00pm:

astro_surf wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 11:40am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 8:54am:

2) Abuse. We all know who the main offenders are.

Yes. YOU. You consistently abuse people who disagree with you when you are incapable of mounting any other argument, you craven little hypocrite Roll Eyes

says the person who put up the 'sodomizing' thread. that was the catalysts for me becoming a moderator. so how does it feel to be the one who helped make this all happen?

now grow up, start posting like a nice person, stop spamming or get used to being deleted or banned.

What do you mean the catalyst to you becoming a moderator? It sounds like a very interesting process this becoming of a moderator...

...IT SOUNDS LIKE A COMPLETE JOKE OF A PROCESS ACTUALLY!!!

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Reply #59 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:51pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 1:32pm:

Grey wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 12:56pm:

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 12:33pm:

funny thing is I have never looked on longy as an abuser I must have been reading you all wrong all these years longy..

I can only guess everybodies idea of abuse is different to mine!!!!!!!..

I have been called over the coals for abuse by mantra as it happens.. which we sorted out I am glad to say.. but when she posted up for me what she called abuse.. I sort of couldnt see it.. maybe it was because it was my own?????... so likewise longies abuse has escaped me as well.

Okaaay... Look come clean Freediver. You want all the left wing voices off the forum? Just say so, because the way this is panning out is barking right ridiculous Grin

Not true.
I think any sane person can put up with reasonable discussion but unfortunately its been noticeable in the last few months that more and more cretins are starting idiotic threads like "Do Liberals eat children" etc.

I have no party allegiance, heck I don't even vote in Australia anymore. I am fortunate enough to live in the United States now but I do take an interest in Australia and what is best for it.

If the debate has dropped down to the level seen on here, then the country really is going down the sh!tter.

These are not unreasonable questions, the Liberals support all sorts of atrocities from wars, to mandatory detention for desperate asylum seekers. They support human inequality, they support feudal working conditions, they support forcing people to sign individual employment contracts, holding people without trial, endorsing torture, assassinations, forcing people to compete rather than collectivize and cooperate. The prize aggression and greed above all things. These are not unreasonable questions to ask of those on the dark side - they are pertinent.

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