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Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:09pm
 
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Schools under fire for 'Christian' national anthem

The head of a Christian schools group has defended the practice of having students sing an additional religious verse to the national anthem.

Instead of the official second verse of Advance Australia Fair, the alternative verse reads:

With Christ our head and cornerstone, we'll build our nation's might;

Whose way and truth and light alone, can guide our path aright;

Our lives a sacrifice of love, reflect our master's care;

With faces turned to heav'n above, Advance Australia Fair;

In joyful strains then let us sing, Advance Australia Fair.

It has been reported that students at at least two private schools in Perth sing the extra verse.

Christian Schools Australia chief executive Stephen O'Doherty told the ABC there is nothing wrong with singing an additional verse.

"What sort of nation is it if somebody wants to stop young kids from singing that they want to be servants of their nation; they want to build community on the strong foundations of their belief in God?"

But Warren Pearson, chief executive of the National Australia Day Council, says changing the words should not be encouraged because students are no longer singing the national anthem.

"I think it's wonderful that young people in Christian schools, in all different schools, sing the national anthem," he said.

"And in some schools they might go and sing the Christian verse, that's fine, but at that point they are singing the verse from Advance Australia Fair; technically they're no longer singing the national anthem."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-23/christian-schools-changing-the-national-an...


This is well up there with the most offensive desecration's of our nationalism symbols imaginable - what next - Muhammad and Buddha verses?  Why not if its ok to change it for sectarians like fundamentalist Christians?  Why cant we have Marx verses?   Its unlikely the Government will let these haters get away with this and thats a good thing.
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Reply #1 - Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:18pm
 
it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???
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Reply #2 - Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:25pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:
it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???





I've read reports where that is a load of christian propaganda.
It WASNT in the original (so some sources claim).
It would be interesting to see what the truth is about this matter


BUT...

The australian anthem does NOT include the verse anyway.


Making it WRONG WRONG WRONG for any school to sing it.


Take away their funding until they revert to the only accepted version of the anthem.
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Reply #3 - Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:26pm
 
This post does not belong on the politics sucks board..it is about religion..it should be removed.
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Reply #4 - Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:27pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:
it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???





It's NOT the anthem.



How about catholic schools adding a verse extyolling the virtues (?) of the pope.


How about left wing , greenie schools adding verses about gaia?



How about muslim schools adding a verse about allah?








See the problem?
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Reply #5 - Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:35pm
 
darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:27pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:
it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???





It's NOT the anthem.



How about catholic schools adding a verse extyolling the virtues (?) of the pope.


How about left wing , greenie schools adding verses about gaia?



How about muslim schools adding a verse about allah?








See the problem?


not really. it is AT WORST trivial. where were you when public schools banned christmas?

this is a CHRISTIAN school singing a CHRISTIAN verse to a song that was in the ORIGINAL.

wherther you like it or not, it is BEYOND trivial and significantly better than banning christmas entirely in public schools coz it might offend someone.
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Reply #6 - Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:38pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:35pm:
darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:27pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:
it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???





It's NOT the anthem.



How about catholic schools adding a verse extyolling the virtues (?) of the pope.


How about left wing , greenie schools adding verses about gaia?



How about muslim schools adding a verse about allah?








See the problem?


not really. it is AT WORST trivial. where were you when public schools banned christmas?

this is a CHRISTIAN school singing a CHRISTIAN verse to a song that was in the ORIGINAL.

wherther you like it or not, it is BEYOND trivial and significantly better than banning christmas entirely in public schools coz it might offend someone.




What schools banned christmas?
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Reply #7 - Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:40pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:35pm:
darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:27pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:
it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???





It's NOT the anthem.



How about catholic schools adding a verse extyolling the virtues (?) of the pope.


How about left wing , greenie schools adding verses about gaia?



How about muslim schools adding a verse about allah?








See the problem?


not really. it is AT WORST trivial. where were you when public schools banned christmas?

this is a CHRISTIAN school singing a CHRISTIAN verse to a song that was in the ORIGINAL.

wherther you like it or not, it is BEYOND trivial and significantly better than banning christmas entirely in public schools coz it might offend someone.



A Christian movement, Awakening, in the 1990s substituted an alternative second verse naming Christ and promoting Christian values[19] This was sung during the Global March for Jesus in 1998[19] and again at World Youth Day 2008 with the qualification 'This is not the official verse, but a Catholic adaptation of the Australian National Anthem'.

The version was later controversially adopted by some Christian private schools for singing as a hymn at internal assemblies.[21] The substituted verse did not appear in the 1879 publication of Peter Dodds McCormick’s original work. The office of Prime Minister Julia Gillard said that, under national protocols, the anthem should not be modified and alternative words should not be used.
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Reply #8 - Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:42pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:35pm:
darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:27pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:
it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???





It's NOT the anthem.



How about catholic schools adding a verse extyolling the virtues (?) of the pope.


How about left wing , greenie schools adding verses about gaia?



How about muslim schools adding a verse about allah?








See the problem?


not really. it is AT WORST trivial. where were you when public schools banned christmas?

this is a CHRISTIAN school singing a CHRISTIAN verse to a song that was in the ORIGINAL.

wherther you like it or not, it is BEYOND trivial and significantly better than banning christmas entirely in public schools coz it might offend someone.





Bullshit.


There was no mention of your fictional christ in the original.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Australia_Fair


"A Christian movement, Awakening, in the 1990s substituted an alternative second verse naming Christ and promoting Christian values[19] This was sung during the Global March for Jesus in 1998[19] and again at World Youth Day 2008 with the qualification 'This is not the official verse, but a Catholic adaptation of the Australian National Anthem'.[20]
The version was later controversially adopted by some Christian private schools for singing as a hymn at internal assemblies.[21] The substituted verse did not appear in the 1879 publication of Peter Dodds McCormick’s original work. The office of Prime Minister Julia Gillard said that, under national protocols, the anthem should not be modified and alternative words should not be used.[21]"
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Reply #9 - Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:43pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:35pm:
darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:27pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:
it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???





It's NOT the anthem.



How about catholic schools adding a verse extyolling the virtues (?) of the pope.


How about left wing , greenie schools adding verses about gaia?



How about muslim schools adding a verse about allah?








See the problem?


not really. it is AT WORST trivial. where were you when public schools banned christmas?

this is a CHRISTIAN school singing a CHRISTIAN verse to a song that was in the ORIGINAL.

wherther you like it or not, it is BEYOND trivial and significantly better than banning christmas entirely in public schools coz it might offend someone.



Oh please, link an article, provide concrete proof or drop the "Banning Xmas" crap.
It's around every year about now & I'm yet to see one shopping centre without carols or a tree and a fat bloke in a suit.
Christams cards are written and brought home every year from my kids school, as with every other school public or private.
In fact the only people banning things are those freaks the "Exculsive Breatheran" & their supposedly Christian.
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Reply #10 - Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:45pm
 
darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:38pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:35pm:
darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:27pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:
it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???





It's NOT the anthem.



How about catholic schools adding a verse extyolling the virtues (?) of the pope.


How about left wing , greenie schools adding verses about gaia?



How about muslim schools adding a verse about allah?








See the problem?


not really. it is AT WORST trivial. where were you when public schools banned christmas?

this is a CHRISTIAN school singing a CHRISTIAN verse to a song that was in the ORIGINAL.

wherther you like it or not, it is BEYOND trivial and significantly better than banning christmas entirely in public schools coz it might offend someone.




What schools banned christmas?


quite a number of public schools did. and isnt that a bit lame and pathetic?
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Reply #11 - Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:46pm
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:43pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:35pm:
darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:27pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:
it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???





It's NOT the anthem.



How about catholic schools adding a verse extyolling the virtues (?) of the pope.


How about left wing , greenie schools adding verses about gaia?



How about muslim schools adding a verse about allah?








See the problem?


not really. it is AT WORST trivial. where were you when public schools banned christmas?

this is a CHRISTIAN school singing a CHRISTIAN verse to a song that was in the ORIGINAL.

wherther you like it or not, it is BEYOND trivial and significantly better than banning christmas entirely in public schools coz it might offend someone.



Oh please, link an article, provide concrete proof or drop the "Banning Xmas" crap.
It's around every year about now & I'm yet to see one shopping centre without carols or a tree and a fat bloke in a suit.
Christams cards are written and brought home every year from my kids school, as with every other school public or private.
In fact the only people banning things are those freaks the "Exculsive Breatheran" & their supposedly Christian.


how many public schools do you attend at christmas time?
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Reply #12 - Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:49pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:46pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:43pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:35pm:
darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:27pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:
it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???





It's NOT the anthem.



How about catholic schools adding a verse extyolling the virtues (?) of the pope.


How about left wing , greenie schools adding verses about gaia?



How about muslim schools adding a verse about allah?








See the problem?


not really. it is AT WORST trivial. where were you when public schools banned christmas?

this is a CHRISTIAN school singing a CHRISTIAN verse to a song that was in the ORIGINAL.

wherther you like it or not, it is BEYOND trivial and significantly better than banning christmas entirely in public schools coz it might offend someone.



Oh please, link an article, provide concrete proof or drop the "Banning Xmas" crap.
It's around every year about now & I'm yet to see one shopping centre without carols or a tree and a fat bloke in a suit.
Christams cards are written and brought home every year from my kids school, as with every other school public or private.
In fact the only people banning things are those freaks the "Exculsive Breatheran" & their supposedly Christian.


how many public schools do you attend at christmas time?


No questions link or proof of banning.
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Reply #13 - Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:49pm
 
darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:42pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:35pm:
darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:27pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:
it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???





It's NOT the anthem.



How about catholic schools adding a verse extyolling the virtues (?) of the pope.


How about left wing , greenie schools adding verses about gaia?



How about muslim schools adding a verse about allah?








See the problem?


not really. it is AT WORST trivial. where were you when public schools banned christmas?

this is a CHRISTIAN school singing a CHRISTIAN verse to a song that was in the ORIGINAL.

wherther you like it or not, it is BEYOND trivial and significantly better than banning christmas entirely in public schools coz it might offend someone.





Bullshit.


There was no mention of your fictional christ in the original.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Australia_Fair


"A Christian movement, Awakening, in the 1990s substituted an alternative second verse naming Christ and promoting Christian values[19] This was sung during the Global March for Jesus in 1998[19] and again at World Youth Day 2008 with the qualification 'This is not the official verse, but a Catholic adaptation of the Australian National Anthem'.[20]
The version was later controversially adopted by some Christian private schools for singing as a hymn at internal assemblies.[21] The substituted verse did not appear in the 1879 publication of Peter Dodds McCormick’s original work. The office of Prime Minister Julia Gillard said that, under national protocols, the anthem should not be modified and alternative words should not be used.[21]"


Interesting since it was the 1980s when I first heard this other verse...

oh an BTW we dont sing the original words now either. they have been modified as well.
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Reply #14 - Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:50pm
 
darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:42pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:35pm:
darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:27pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:
it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???





It's NOT the anthem.



How about catholic schools adding a verse extyolling the virtues (?) of the pope.


How about left wing , greenie schools adding verses about gaia?



How about muslim schools adding a verse about allah?








See the problem?


not really. it is AT WORST trivial. where were you when public schools banned christmas?

this is a CHRISTIAN school singing a CHRISTIAN verse to a song that was in the ORIGINAL.

wherther you like it or not, it is BEYOND trivial and significantly better than banning christmas entirely in public schools coz it might offend someone.





Bullshit.


There was no mention of your fictional christ in the original.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Australia_Fair


"A Christian movement, Awakening, in the 1990s substituted an alternative second verse naming Christ and promoting Christian values[19] This was sung during the Global March for Jesus in 1998[19] and again at World Youth Day 2008 with the qualification 'This is not the official verse, but a Catholic adaptation of the Australian National Anthem'.[20]
The version was later controversially adopted by some Christian private schools for singing as a hymn at internal assemblies.[21] The substituted verse did not appear in the 1879 publication of Peter Dodds McCormick’s original work. The office of Prime Minister Julia Gillard said that, under national protocols, the anthem should not be modified and alternative words should not be used.[21]"


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