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corporate_whitey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8896 Archivist	Re: Religious Fundamentalist Attack On National Anthem Reply #15 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:50pm They are not singing the national anthem that we the people voted on and they are turning it into an exclusive sectarian war song for the supremacy of the sky god.
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Re: Religious Fundamentalist Attack On National Anthem
Reply #16 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:51pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:49pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:46pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:43pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:35pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:

it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???

It's NOT the anthem.

How about catholic schools adding a verse extyolling the virtues (?) of the pope.

How about left wing , greenie schools adding verses about gaia?

How about muslim schools adding a verse about allah?

See the problem?

not really. it is AT WORST trivial. where were you when public schools banned christmas?

this is a CHRISTIAN school singing a CHRISTIAN verse to a song that was in the ORIGINAL.

wherther you like it or not, it is BEYOND trivial and significantly better than banning christmas entirely in public schools coz it might offend someone.

Oh please, link an article, provide concrete proof or drop the "Banning Xmas" crap.
It's around every year about now & I'm yet to see one shopping centre without carols or a tree and a fat bloke in a suit.
Christams cards are written and brought home every year from my kids school, as with every other school public or private.
In fact the only people banning things are those freaks the "Exculsive Breatheran" & their supposedly Christian.

how many public schools do you attend at christmas time?

No questions link or proof of banning.

I will take a look for it but it is disappointing that you seem to be clinging to this rather than the topic at hand. the school ban or christmas was all over the news (not unexpectedly).

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Re: Religious Fundamentalist Attack On National Anthem
Reply #17 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:51pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:49pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:35pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:

it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???

It's NOT the anthem.

How about catholic schools adding a verse extyolling the virtues (?) of the pope.

How about left wing , greenie schools adding verses about gaia?

How about muslim schools adding a verse about allah?

See the problem?

not really. it is AT WORST trivial. where were you when public schools banned christmas?

this is a CHRISTIAN school singing a CHRISTIAN verse to a song that was in the ORIGINAL.

wherther you like it or not, it is BEYOND trivial and significantly better than banning christmas entirely in public schools coz it might offend someone.

Bullshit.

There was no mention of your fictional christ in the original.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Australia_Fair

"A Christian movement, Awakening, in the 1990s substituted an alternative second verse naming Christ and promoting Christian values[19] This was sung during the Global March for Jesus in 1998[19] and again at World Youth Day 2008 with the qualification 'This is not the official verse, but a Catholic adaptation of the Australian National Anthem'.[20]
The version was later controversially adopted by some Christian private schools for singing as a hymn at internal assemblies.[21] The substituted verse did not appear in the 1879 publication of Peter Dodds McCormick’s original work. The office of Prime Minister Julia Gillard said that, under national protocols, the anthem should not be modified and alternative words should not be used.[21]"

Interesting since it was the 1980s when I first heard this other verse...

oh an BTW we dont sing the original words now either. they have been modified as well.

Irrelevant when this bastardised version was invented by christian nutters and when you heard it.

It WASNT in the original.

It is NOT part of the anthem.

You are WRONG.

Have the guts to admit it.

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Religious Fundamentalist Attack On National Anthem Reply #18 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:52pm corporate_whitey wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:50pm: They are not singing the national anthem that we the people voted on and they are turning it into an exclusive sectarian war song for the supremacy of the sky god. well at least you remain the idiot we have gotten so used to!
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Re: Religious Fundamentalist Attack On National Anthem
Reply #19 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:55pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:50pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:35pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:

it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???

It's NOT the anthem.

How about catholic schools adding a verse extyolling the virtues (?) of the pope.

How about left wing , greenie schools adding verses about gaia?

How about muslim schools adding a verse about allah?

See the problem?

not really. it is AT WORST trivial. where were you when public schools banned christmas?

this is a CHRISTIAN school singing a CHRISTIAN verse to a song that was in the ORIGINAL.

wherther you like it or not, it is BEYOND trivial and significantly better than banning christmas entirely in public schools coz it might offend someone.

Bullshit.

There was no mention of your fictional christ in the original.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Australia_Fair

"A Christian movement, Awakening, in the 1990s substituted an alternative second verse naming Christ and promoting Christian values[19] This was sung during the Global March for Jesus in 1998[19] and again at World Youth Day 2008 with the qualification 'This is not the official verse, but a Catholic adaptation of the Australian National Anthem'.[20]
The version was later controversially adopted by some Christian private schools for singing as a hymn at internal assemblies.[21] The substituted verse did not appear in the 1879 publication of Peter Dodds McCormick’s original work. The office of Prime Minister Julia Gillard said that, under national protocols, the anthem should not be modified and alternative words should not be used.[21]"

you dont get credibility points for the highlighted coment.

I've highlighted where the highlights should go in the post.

YOUR fictional christ .
As opposed to the HISTORICAL christ.

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Re: Religious Fundamentalist Attack On National Anthem
Reply #20 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:56pm

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:49pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:35pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:

it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???

It's NOT the anthem.

How about catholic schools adding a verse extyolling the virtues (?) of the pope.

How about left wing , greenie schools adding verses about gaia?

How about muslim schools adding a verse about allah?

See the problem?

not really. it is AT WORST trivial. where were you when public schools banned christmas?

this is a CHRISTIAN school singing a CHRISTIAN verse to a song that was in the ORIGINAL.

wherther you like it or not, it is BEYOND trivial and significantly better than banning christmas entirely in public schools coz it might offend someone.

Bullshit.

There was no mention of your fictional christ in the original.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Australia_Fair

"A Christian movement, Awakening, in the 1990s substituted an alternative second verse naming Christ and promoting Christian values[19] This was sung during the Global March for Jesus in 1998[19] and again at World Youth Day 2008 with the qualification 'This is not the official verse, but a Catholic adaptation of the Australian National Anthem'.[20]
The version was later controversially adopted by some Christian private schools for singing as a hymn at internal assemblies.[21] The substituted verse did not appear in the 1879 publication of Peter Dodds McCormick’s original work. The office of Prime Minister Julia Gillard said that, under national protocols, the anthem should not be modified and alternative words should not be used.[21]"

Interesting since it was the 1980s when I first heard this other verse...

oh an BTW we dont sing the original words now either. they have been modified as well.

Irrelevant when this bastardised version was invented by christian nutters and when you heard it.

It WASNT in the original.

It is NOT part of the anthem.

You are WRONG.

Have the guts to admit it.

i dont quite get your anger. it was christians singing in a christian school a version that HAS been sung publically in front of the PM and GG on at least one occasion. where exactly is the source of this angst?

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Re: Religious Fundamentalist Attack On National Anthem
Reply #21 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:57pm

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:50pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:35pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:

it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???

It's NOT the anthem.

How about catholic schools adding a verse extyolling the virtues (?) of the pope.

How about left wing , greenie schools adding verses about gaia?

How about muslim schools adding a verse about allah?

See the problem?

not really. it is AT WORST trivial. where were you when public schools banned christmas?

this is a CHRISTIAN school singing a CHRISTIAN verse to a song that was in the ORIGINAL.

wherther you like it or not, it is BEYOND trivial and significantly better than banning christmas entirely in public schools coz it might offend someone.

Bullshit.

There was no mention of your fictional christ in the original.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Australia_Fair

"A Christian movement, Awakening, in the 1990s substituted an alternative second verse naming Christ and promoting Christian values[19] This was sung during the Global March for Jesus in 1998[19] and again at World Youth Day 2008 with the qualification 'This is not the official verse, but a Catholic adaptation of the Australian National Anthem'.[20]
The version was later controversially adopted by some Christian private schools for singing as a hymn at internal assemblies.[21] The substituted verse did not appear in the 1879 publication of Peter Dodds McCormick’s original work. The office of Prime Minister Julia Gillard said that, under national protocols, the anthem should not be modified and alternative words should not be used.[21]"

you dont get credibility points for the highlighted coment.

I've highlighted where the highlights should go in the post.

YOUR fictional christ .
As opposed to the HISTORICAL christ.

nice comeback although it is a tad convenient to redefine your grammar AFTERWARDS. although for the record, MY Christ is the historical one. I dont know who yours is.

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Re: Religious Fundamentalist Attack On National Anthem
Reply #22 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 7:01pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:57pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:55pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:50pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:35pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:

it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???

It's NOT the anthem.

How about catholic schools adding a verse extyolling the virtues (?) of the pope.

How about left wing , greenie schools adding verses about gaia?

How about muslim schools adding a verse about allah?

See the problem?

not really. it is AT WORST trivial. where were you when public schools banned christmas?

this is a CHRISTIAN school singing a CHRISTIAN verse to a song that was in the ORIGINAL.

wherther you like it or not, it is BEYOND trivial and significantly better than banning christmas entirely in public schools coz it might offend someone.

Bullshit.

There was no mention of your fictional christ in the original.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Australia_Fair

"A Christian movement, Awakening, in the 1990s substituted an alternative second verse naming Christ and promoting Christian values[19] This was sung during the Global March for Jesus in 1998[19] and again at World Youth Day 2008 with the qualification 'This is not the official verse, but a Catholic adaptation of the Australian National Anthem'.[20]
The version was later controversially adopted by some Christian private schools for singing as a hymn at internal assemblies.[21] The substituted verse did not appear in the 1879 publication of Peter Dodds McCormick’s original work. The office of Prime Minister Julia Gillard said that, under national protocols, the anthem should not be modified and alternative words should not be used.[21]"

you dont get credibility points for the highlighted coment.

I've highlighted where the highlights should go in the post.

YOUR fictional christ .
As opposed to the HISTORICAL christ.

nice comeback although it is a tad convenient to redefine your grammar AFTERWARDS. although for the record, MY Christ is the historical one. I dont know who yours is.

I wasnt the one who highlighted my original post the way you wanted to read it.

I clarified because of your obvious misunderstanding.

And BTW YOUR christ is NOT the historical one , by ANY measure .

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Religious Fundamentalist Attack On National Anthem Reply #23 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 7:02pm Quote: And BTW YOUR christ is NOT the historical one , by ANY measure . in what way? because I call Him God?? Keep in mind that that is waht He called Himself!
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Re: Religious Fundamentalist Attack On National Anthem
Reply #24 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 7:03pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:56pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:49pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:35pm:

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 6:18pm:

it is part of the ORIGINAL song. the national anthem version of it took that verse out. Singing the original second verse is optional. PLUS what possible offence could it cause in a a christian school to seing a christian verse???

It's NOT the anthem.

How about catholic schools adding a verse extyolling the virtues (?) of the pope.

How about left wing , greenie schools adding verses about gaia?

How about muslim schools adding a verse about allah?

See the problem?

not really. it is AT WORST trivial. where were you when public schools banned christmas?

this is a CHRISTIAN school singing a CHRISTIAN verse to a song that was in the ORIGINAL.

wherther you like it or not, it is BEYOND trivial and significantly better than banning christmas entirely in public schools coz it might offend someone.

Bullshit.

There was no mention of your fictional christ in the original.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_Australia_Fair

"A Christian movement, Awakening, in the 1990s substituted an alternative second verse naming Christ and promoting Christian values[19] This was sung during the Global March for Jesus in 1998[19] and again at World Youth Day 2008 with the qualification 'This is not the official verse, but a Catholic adaptation of the Australian National Anthem'.[20]
The version was later controversially adopted by some Christian private schools for singing as a hymn at internal assemblies.[21] The substituted verse did not appear in the 1879 publication of Peter Dodds McCormick’s original work. The office of Prime Minister Julia Gillard said that, under national protocols, the anthem should not be modified and alternative words should not be used.[21]"

Interesting since it was the 1980s when I first heard this other verse...

oh an BTW we dont sing the original words now either. they have been modified as well.

Irrelevant when this bastardised version was invented by christian nutters and when you heard it.

It WASNT in the original.

It is NOT part of the anthem.

You are WRONG.

Have the guts to admit it.

i dont quite get your anger. it was christians singing in a christian school a version that HAS been sung publically in front of the PM and GG on at least one occasion. where exactly is the source of this angst?

I'm not angry at all.

i just want these religious nutters to be chastised for bastardising the national anthem , the same way that a muslim school , hindu school , calathupian school would be chastised for doing so.

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darkhall67 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1935	Re: Religious Fundamentalist Attack On National Anthem Reply #25 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 7:06pm longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 7:02pm: Quote: And BTW YOUR christ is NOT the historical one , by ANY measure . in what way? because I call Him God?? Keep in mind that that is waht He called Himself! You do know what the term "historical" means dont you?
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Re: Religious Fundamentalist Attack On National Anthem
Reply #26 - Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 7:07pm

darkhall67 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2011 at 7:03pm: