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Reply #60 - Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 6:10pm

Maqqa wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 4:43pm:

So it comes down to which solution can Australians be assured that illegals are treated humanely

When Howard negotiated the Nauru solution the boat was already on the way - the manner in which they would be treated was the last consideration as long as they did not come to Australia all for only political reasons weeks before an election.

Liberals pretending to be caring and sharing types just does not ring true

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Reply #61 - Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 7:01pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 6:06pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 4:43pm:

I disagree

If Abbott allows the amendments to go through then Gillard will say that Abbott supports the Malaysian Solution

Rubbish she would never get away with that.

she is already saying Abbott supports on-shore processing so why not extend the lie a little more. After all Gillard is quites skilled in lying. Just ask the 66% of people that oppose the carbon tax she also opposed... until she was pseudo-elected.

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Reply #62 - Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 7:03pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 6:10pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 4:43pm:

So it comes down to which solution can Australians be assured that illegals are treated humanely

When Howard negotiated the Nauru solution the boat was already on the way - the manner in which they would be treated was the last consideration as long as they did not come to Australia all for only political reasons weeks before an election.

Liberals pretending to be caring and sharing types just does not ring true

id rather be a Liberal PRETENDING to care and actually caring than a Labor govt pretending to care and then sending people to malaysiua to be flogged - as we KNOW actually happens.

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Reply #63 - Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 1:02am

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 7:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 6:06pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 4:43pm:

I disagree

If Abbott allows the amendments to go through then Gillard will say that Abbott supports the Malaysian Solution

Rubbish she would never get away with that.

she is already saying Abbott supports on-shore processing so why not extend the lie a little more.

While he is blocking a solution he is at least tacitly supporting the only other option which is onshore processing - this is just an obvious fact - no lie at all.

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Reply #64 - Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 10:35am

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 7:03pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 6:10pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 4:43pm:

So it comes down to which solution can Australians be assured that illegals are treated humanely

When Howard negotiated the Nauru solution the boat was already on the way - the manner in which they would be treated was the last consideration as long as they did not come to Australia all for only political reasons weeks before an election.

Liberals pretending to be caring and sharing types just does not ring true

id rather be a Liberal PRETENDING to care and actually caring than a Labor govt pretending to care and then sending people to malaysiua to be flogged - as we KNOW actually happens.

You do understand that Mr Abbott is still saying to turn the boats around?

Let them sink and watch people drown?

Crocodile tears over this one from the Libs, nothing more.

There were significant protections in the Malaysia deal

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Reply #65 - Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 11:08am

Dnarever wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 1:02am:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 7:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 6:06pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 4:43pm:

I disagree

If Abbott allows the amendments to go through then Gillard will say that Abbott supports the Malaysian Solution

Rubbish she would never get away with that.

she is already saying Abbott supports on-shore processing so why not extend the lie a little more.

While he is blocking a solution he is at least tacitly supporting the only other option which is onshore processing - this is just an obvious fact - no lie at all.

you'd need to be pretty dim to accept that given his puyblci support for Nauru.

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Reply #66 - Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 11:09am

Dnarever wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 10:35am:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 7:03pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 6:10pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 4:43pm:

So it comes down to which solution can Australians be assured that illegals are treated humanely

When Howard negotiated the Nauru solution the boat was already on the way - the manner in which they would be treated was the last consideration as long as they did not come to Australia all for only political reasons weeks before an election.

Liberals pretending to be caring and sharing types just does not ring true

id rather be a Liberal PRETENDING to care and actually caring than a Labor govt pretending to care and then sending people to malaysiua to be flogged - as we KNOW actually happens.

You do understand that Mr Abbott is still saying to turn the boats around?

Let them sink and watch people drown?

Crocodile tears over this one from the Libs, nothing more.

There were significant protections in the Malaysia deal

do you SERIOUSLY believe that? Malaysis is not giving up any soverieng rights and it is on record as having flogged refugees for not having identification. you think this is good?

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49460 At my desk.	Re: policies, not parties Reply #67 - Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 11:30am On record? Is that like having it in writing?
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: policies, not parties Reply #68 - Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 11:44am freediver wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 11:30am: On record? Is that like having it in writing? it was widely reported in the media. your point?
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49460 At my desk.	Re: policies, not parties Reply #69 - Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 12:18pm I seem to have your attention now.
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Reply #70 - Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 12:51pm

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 11:08am:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 1:02am:

longweekend58 wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 7:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 6:06pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 4:43pm:

I disagree

If Abbott allows the amendments to go through then Gillard will say that Abbott supports the Malaysian Solution

Rubbish she would never get away with that.

she is already saying Abbott supports on-shore processing so why not extend the lie a little more.

While he is blocking a solution he is at least tacitly supporting the only other option which is onshore processing - this is just an obvious fact - no lie at all.

you'd need to be pretty dim to accept that given his puyblci support for Nauru.

It was their policy going into the last election?

TONY Abbott says he will turn asylum-seeker boats back out to sea if the Coalition wins the next election, accusing Kevin Rudd of lacking the "steel" to fulfil his promise to do the same.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/tony-abbott-pledges-to-turn-asylum-b...

http://media.smh.com.au/abbott-pledges-to-turn-back-the-boats-1514688.html

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Reply #71 - Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 1:05pm

Dnarever wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 6:10pm:

Maqqa wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2011 at 4:43pm:

So it comes down to which solution can Australians be assured that illegals are treated humanely

When Howard negotiated the Nauru solution the boat was already on the way - the manner in which they would be treated was the last consideration as long as they did not come to Australia all for only political reasons weeks before an election.

Liberals pretending to be caring and sharing types just does not ring true

Nauru was negotiated based on the fact that Australia has TOTAL CONTROL

No such control exist under Malaysian Solution

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Bill 14% is not the alcohol content of that wine. It's your poll number

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Maqqa Gold Member Offline 14% - that low?! Posts: 16000	Re: policies, not parties Reply #72 - Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 1:13pm Dnarever wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 10:35am: There were significant protections in the Malaysia deal Unenforceable protections - which is why the Australian High Court rejected the deal
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: policies, not parties Reply #73 - Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 3:44pm freediver wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 12:18pm: I seem to have your attention now. none of which makes any sense...
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49460 At my desk.	Re: policies, not parties Reply #74 - Oct 3^rd, 2011 at 3:45pm I was trying to be subtle.
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