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Reply #15 - Sep 26th, 2011 at 5:47pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 5:04pm:
NBNMyths wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 2:33pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 26th, 2011 at 11:33am:
The problem with this legislation is PRECEDENCE. Precedence is one of the powerful builders of common law and to make such assumptions of cause on cancer could wreak havoc in our compensations system. it might be nice to do such a thing but it needs to be funded and managed adn this isnt possible.


It's not precedence unless anyone else trying to get it as well can demonstrate a job-related cancer risk, which is what firefighters have done.

This already occurs for some positions. For example, if you worked in an asbestos mine and you contract mesothelioma, then it's not up to you to prove that it was caused by your employment, it is assumed.

Same goes for this legislation. It has been shown that firefighters have almost double the risk of certain cancers to that of the general population, so this proposed legislation changes swaps the burden of proof from the sick firefighter across to the employer.

If you don't think that's reasonable, what would be your alternative? How would one prove that a particular case of cancer is work-related. Should samples of the smoke from every fire attended during a career be presented as evidence?


case- by-case. Any PRESUMPTION of guilt - which is what it is - isn intrinsically unfair. Any claim for compensation would already take into account the higher risk of firefighters but would not make it a fait accompli. you do understand  that cancers are caused from reasons OTHER than your emplyment?


Isn't it just as unfair (more, IMHO) for a cancer-sticken person to try to come up with proof that one or more of the 10,000 (50,000?, 100,000?) fires or incidents they went to caused their cancer? Aside from quoting statistics, how could this be done? And if the statistics support the argument (which they apparently do), then why not shift the burden of proof to the employer? Doing so doesn't mean compo is fait accompli, it just means the employer has to prove an alternative cause. Lung cancer? Smoker? bad luck.

Once you have a factor of >= 2 for any illness associated with that occupation, it becomes statistically more likely that the employment caused the illness, rather than any other cause or group of causes.

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Reply #16 - Sep 26th, 2011 at 9:40pm
 
Keep up the good work exposing the LYING thoughtless Abbott Liberal party circus.

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