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Re: Tony Abbott
Reply #15 - Sep 25^th, 2011 at 9:57pm

Griff wrote on Sep 25^th, 2011 at 8:27pm:

Abbott is a volunteer surf life saver at Queenscliff ,
a volunteer member of the NSW Rural Fire Service as a member of the Davidson Rural Fire Brigade.

He has participated in many events for charity including running in a 100 km charity ultramarathon.

In April 2007 he launched the tenth annual Pollie Pedal, a charitable event which aimed to raise money for breast cancer research

Abbott spent weeks teaching in a remote Aboriginal settlements in Cape York in 2008 and 2009, organised through prominent indigenous leader Noel Pearson. He taught remedial reading to Aboriginal children; worked with an income management group, helping families manage their welfare payments; and visited children who had not been attending school—with a goal 'to familiarise himself with indigenous issues'.

Criticise all you like - how many other front bench politicians do volunteer work ?

indeed griff ? That's very good stuff really.
Whether other pollies do those sort of activitoes or not, well done Tony

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Tony Abbott Reply #16 - Sep 25^th, 2011 at 10:04pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 25^th, 2011 at 9:57pm: indeed griff ? That's very good stuff really. Whether other pollies do those sort of activitoes or not, well done Tony This from a quasi-Christian.. What a surprise Never mind those who do it from the heart without the media to score them brownies with the mindless.
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Re: Tony Abbott
Reply #18 - Sep 26^th, 2011 at 1:09am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 25^th, 2011 at 9:57pm:

Griff wrote on Sep 25^th, 2011 at 8:27pm:

Abbott is a volunteer surf life saver at Queenscliff ,
a volunteer member of the NSW Rural Fire Service as a member of the Davidson Rural Fire Brigade.

He has participated in many events for charity including running in a 100 km charity ultramarathon.

In April 2007 he launched the tenth annual Pollie Pedal, a charitable event which aimed to raise money for breast cancer research

Abbott spent weeks teaching in a remote Aboriginal settlements in Cape York in 2008 and 2009, organised through prominent indigenous leader Noel Pearson. He taught remedial reading to Aboriginal children; worked with an income management group, helping families manage their welfare payments; and visited children who had not been attending school—with a goal 'to familiarise himself with indigenous issues'.

Criticise all you like - how many other front bench politicians do volunteer work ?

indeed griff ? That's very good stuff really.
Whether other pollies do those sort of activitoes or not, well done Tony

Tony Abbott has always volunteered for charity and helped in the community. It is part of the make up of his character.

Long before the press started following him around he was out there trying to help others and was never given any publicity.

It is interesting that some on here will put him down for this. Even to the extent of comparing him with Hitler. Just shows the poor judgement in some and a jaundiced view in not being able to give acknowledgement of a person's good qualities.

I do notice that these same people are not putting up similar plaudits for their own personal favourite pollie....just generalising that most of them would be the same. Not true. If they were, then there would be lists on here putting all the good works out there and showing Abbott up.

Truth is, most pollies have been getting themselves into politics and climbing the ladder for less altruistic reasons. They couldn't come close to Abbott's years of selfless commitment to causes he believes in.

Good on Abbott. We could do far worse.....

Oh, that's right, we ARE doing worse.

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Reply #19 - Sep 26^th, 2011 at 5:03am

olive wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 1:09am:

It is interesting that some on here will put him down for this. Even to the extent of comparing him with Hitler. Just shows the poor judgement in some and a jaundiced view in not being able to give acknowledgement of a person's good qualities.

The point being... The writing of books is not, in itself, a necessary indication of the writer's morality, nor of the books' literary/academic worth.

And a sense of calling to the priesthood, similarly, is not, in itself, a necessary indication of the subject's moral or ethical worth.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40774 Gender:	Re: Tony Abbott Reply #20 - Sep 26^th, 2011 at 8:03am Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 25^th, 2011 at 11:26pm: helian, these deeds Tony does, are they good things ? answer the question plse helian
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Reply #21 - Sep 26^th, 2011 at 8:09am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 5:03am:

olive wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 1:09am:

It is interesting that some on here will put him down for this. Even to the extent of comparing him with Hitler. Just shows the poor judgement in some and a jaundiced view in not being able to give acknowledgement of a person's good qualities.

The point being... The writing of books is not, in itself, a necessary indication of the writer's morality, nor of the books' literary/academic worth.

And a sense of calling to the priesthood, similarly, is not, in itself, a necessary indication of the subject's moral or ethical worth.

Just admit that you hate Abbott with a passion despite his extensive charity work and that any admission otherwise by you would be simply too painful. That's just pitiful. I can't stand Rudd, but atleast I can admit that as a Foreign Minister, he is very good at that job as a career diplomat - far better than he was or will ever be as a PM.

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Re: Tony Abbott
Reply #22 - Sep 26^th, 2011 at 8:20am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 25^th, 2011 at 7:16pm:

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....................Abbott was a Rhodes Scholar; has three degrees in economics, law and philosophy; was educated at four elite institutions, St Aloysius, Riverview, Sydney University and Oxford University; is highly articulate; has written three books and raised three daughters who are all pursuing tertiary studies...................

thanks all

One very important piece of his education is missing. He never attended a madrassa. Until he can cite the holy narok from cover to cover the bloke is nothing more than a dunce.

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The ALP, the progressive party, the party of ideas, the workers' friend, is the only Australian political party to roast four young Australians in roof cavities. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Tony Abbott Reply #23 - Sep 26^th, 2011 at 8:24am Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 8:03am: Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 25^th, 2011 at 11:26pm: helian, these deeds Tony does, are they good things ? answer the question plse helian It's not in the deed where goodness lies, but in the intent and spirit in which its commissioned.
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Reply #24 - Sep 26^th, 2011 at 8:33am

olive wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 1:09am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 25^th, 2011 at 9:57pm:

Griff wrote on Sep 25^th, 2011 at 8:27pm:

Abbott is a volunteer surf life saver at Queenscliff ,
a volunteer member of the NSW Rural Fire Service as a member of the Davidson Rural Fire Brigade.

He has participated in many events for charity including running in a 100 km charity ultramarathon.

In April 2007 he launched the tenth annual Pollie Pedal, a charitable event which aimed to raise money for breast cancer research

Abbott spent weeks teaching in a remote Aboriginal settlements in Cape York in 2008 and 2009, organised through prominent indigenous leader Noel Pearson. He taught remedial reading to Aboriginal children; worked with an income management group, helping families manage their welfare payments; and visited children who had not been attending school—with a goal 'to familiarise himself with indigenous issues'.

Criticise all you like - how many other front bench politicians do volunteer work ?

indeed griff ? That's very good stuff really.
Whether other pollies do those sort of activitoes or not, well done Tony

Tony Abbott has always volunteered for charity and helped in the community. It is part of the make up of his character.

Long before the press started following him around he was out there trying to help others and was never given any publicity.

It is interesting that some on here will put him down for this. Even to the extent of comparing him with Hitler. Just shows the poor judgement in some and a jaundiced view in not being able to give acknowledgement of a person's good qualities.

I do notice that these same people are not putting up similar plaudits for their own personal favourite pollie....just generalising that most of them would be the same. Not true. If they were, then there would be lists on here putting all the good works out there and showing Abbott up.

Truth is, most pollies have been getting themselves into politics and climbing the ladder for less altruistic reasons. They couldn't come close to Abbott's years of selfless commitment to causes he believes in.

Good on Abbott. We could do far worse.....

Oh, that's right, we ARE doing worse.

morning olive.... we forget the things he does for our aboriginal chums... he doesnt just do token visits either he stays there and tried to understand..

I havent seen him sitting on hospital beds all decked out in surgery gear.. though....lol..

remember Laurel and Hardy doing the rounds of the hospital beds....groooooooan..

I just recently spent 12 hours in emergency with an 87 year old sitting in a chair all that time..... not a sign of Laurel Or Hardy... Grin

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Re: Tony Abbott
Reply #25 - Sep 26^th, 2011 at 8:39am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 8:24am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 8:03am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 25^th, 2011 at 11:26pm:

helian, these deeds Tony does, are they good things ?

answer the question plse helian

It's not in the deed where goodness lies, but in the intent and spirit in which its commissioned.

answer question.

and, you are wrong.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40774 Gender:	Re: Tony Abbott Reply #27 - Sep 26^th, 2011 at 10:47am sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 10:28am: Unfortunately it is the likes of Abbott that low the value of universities 3 degrees, and yet still unable to comprehend how to utilise his knowledge and is a complete fool. rhodes scholars are not complete fools
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Re: Tony Abbott
Reply #28 - Sep 26^th, 2011 at 10:49am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 10:47am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 26^th, 2011 at 10:28am:

Unfortunately it is the likes of Abbott that low the value of universities Sad

3 degrees, and yet still unable to comprehend how to utilise his knowledge and is a complete fool.

rhodes scholars are not complete fools

No, there are parts missing. Grin

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