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Doctors hit out at pharmacists' deal with Blackmor
Sep 26th, 2011 at 1:49pm
 
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The Australian Medical Association (AMA) has accused the Pharmacy Guild of Australia of putting commercial interests ahead of patients' health under a new deal which will see pharmacists prompted to recommend supplementary medicines to consumers.

The guild has struck an agreement with the company Blackmores to promote the company's products alongside certain prescription drugs.

Under the deal, pharmacists dispensing medicines for several common conditions will receive a prompt in their computer system reminding them to promote a complementary Blackmores product.

The AMA says it appears commercial interests are being put ahead of patients' needs.

But the association has previously been accused of doing the same, and the Pharmacy Guild says it is thrilled about the deal.

The guild says the four Blackmores products in the range have been designed specifically to offset possible side-effects of common prescription drugs.

But AMA president Steve Hambleton says the agreement is just an opportunity to up-sell and increase profits.

"We rely on our pharmacy colleagues to actually assist us in healthcare of the patient," he said.

"It is a very good relationship between doctors and pharmacists, and I'd hate to see anything undermine tha
"That sort of advice from a professional pharmacist will have a great impact on patients and they may well decide to choose those products.

"We know some patients won't even take all of their medicines because of the price - I'd hate to think that they'd substitute one of their prescribed medicines for one of these companion products."

Dr Hambleton says there is potential to sell companion products with around 58 million claims for PBS prescriptions.

"This is a big financial deal. We can't put finances ahead of the health of a patient," he said.

General practitioners are already sometimes prompted by their computer system to recommend certain medicines to patients, but Dr Hambleton says there is a big difference.

"If you had a particular medical problem you may benefit from some medicines to fix that problem," he said.

"Diabetes is a good example. There is a range of medicines that actually improve healthcare for diabetics. They have all got evidence, they are all TGA [Therapeutic Goods Administration] registered, they all can do what they say they do.

"The difference here is we are talking about complementary or unconventional products where the evidence base is much poorer and we need to see the evidence that these products actually do what they say they do and are worth paying for."

Pharmacy Guild president Kos Sclavos was in transit and unavailable to speak to ABC Radio's AM.

A spokesman for the guild said Mr Sclavos was satisfied Blackmores had good evidence to allow pharmacists to make the recommendations.

The spokesman said Mr Sclavos rejected suggestions the deal is commercially motivated.

No payment has been received by the guild, but its subsidiary Gold Cross is likely to receive payment from Blackmores for agreeing to endorse the four companion products with the Gold Cross logo.

The scheme is due to take effect from October 1.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-26/ama-accuses-guild-of-putting-commerical-in...
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Re: Doctors hit out at pharmacists' deal with Blackmor
Reply #1 - Sep 27th, 2011 at 6:19pm
 
Although I'm not a fan of vitamin/mineral supplements, this does just smack of sour grapes on the AMA's part.  They obviously want a monopoly on the ability to push substances with little or no proven benefit.
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Reply #2 - Oct 1st, 2011 at 10:50am
 
Those herbal medicines can combine together with drugs from the chemist
to have adverse reactions - it could be dangerous to take them.
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Reply #3 - Oct 5th, 2011 at 6:36am
 
Bobby. wrote on Oct 1st, 2011 at 10:50am:
Those herbal medicines can combine together with drugs from the chemist
to have adverse reactions - it could be dangerous to take them.


Chances are there will not be, a lot of that stuff is Homeopathic and even if it isn't for it to be OTC it probably isn't going to have too much punch.
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Reply #4 - Oct 6th, 2011 at 6:26am
 
cThe AMA is closely associated with the drug companies who bribe doctors with all sorts of goodies to promote their products.

I'm not a fan of Blackmores (too expensive) - but there are plenty of herbal medicines and vitamins which can be used instead of commercial drugs which are comprised of a concoction of chemicals.

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The guild says the four Blackmores products in the range have been designed specifically to offset possible side-effects of common prescription drugs.


It looks like Blackmores are creeping in by stealth. I'm assuming they've been bribing pharmacists too.

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Reply #5 - Oct 6th, 2011 at 11:58am
 
Herbal medicines can work, but the homoeopathic are placebos
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Reply #6 - Feb 5th, 2013 at 3:04pm
 
Now doctors have taken the turning point not prescribed the pharmaceutical medicen and recommend the patients towards the physical therapy for those diseases which not cure by taking the long term medicen.
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Reply #7 - Feb 19th, 2013 at 2:45pm
 
Kytro wrote on Oct 5th, 2011 at 6:36am:
Bobby. wrote on Oct 1st, 2011 at 10:50am:
Those herbal medicines can combine together with drugs from the chemist
to have adverse reactions - it could be dangerous to take them.


Chances are there will not be, a lot of that stuff is Homeopathic and even if it isn't for it to be OTC it probably isn't going to have too much punch.

Wasn't stillnox over the counter??

Huh
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Reply #8 - May 2nd, 2018 at 10:25am
 
This Topic was moved here from Drug Policy by freediver.
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