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Re: 'Hard Right' Bolt Is Guilty
Reply #45 - Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:59am

... wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:48am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:47am:

... wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:44am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:42am:

... wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:41am:

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Wes, I'm not going to go through Bolt's articles. I usually enjoy reading them when I'm drunk just to get a good laugh. But as per normal, we can quote all we want to make a point. I'm simply saying that from what I have read from him, I have found him to be more a racist than a protector of human identity.

Perhaps the differnce betwen you and I is that I investiagte things for myself. My motto in my signature is a good oneto live by - give it a whirl.

The reason for that is that you go out and find the one instance that can serve your view. I stick to what I have read and form a overall view from that.

And yet you refuse to read the 'slanderous' article in question. I've even posted a link, it's just a click away.

I've read it before. You want me to read it again?

Not neccessarily - just tell us what part of it is untrue.

Like I said, I don't really care about the plaintiffs and so on, just happy to see the racist spanked finally by the courts.

But if it pleases you, I'll read it when I have some more spare time and come back to you with an opinion on the actual case.

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Re: 'Hard Right' Bolt Is Guilty
Reply #46 - Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:04pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:47am:

... wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:44am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:42am:

... wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:41am:

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Wes, I'm not going to go through Bolt's articles. I usually enjoy reading them when I'm drunk just to get a good laugh. But as per normal, we can quote all we want to make a point. I'm simply saying that from what I have read from him, I have found him to be more a racist than a protector of human identity.

Perhaps the differnce betwen you and I is that I investiagte things for myself. My motto in my signature is a good oneto live by - give it a whirl.

The reason for that is that you go out and find the one instance that can serve your view. I stick to what I have read and form a overall view from that.

And yet you refuse to read the 'slanderous' article in question. I've even posted a link, it's just a click away.

I've read it before. You want me to read it again?

were you offended by it? despite a few factual errors, was what he said essentially wrong?

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Re: 'Hard Right' Bolt Is Guilty
Reply #47 - Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:05pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:59am:

... wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:48am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:47am:

... wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:44am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:42am:

... wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:41am:

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Wes, I'm not going to go through Bolt's articles. I usually enjoy reading them when I'm drunk just to get a good laugh. But as per normal, we can quote all we want to make a point. I'm simply saying that from what I have read from him, I have found him to be more a racist than a protector of human identity.

Perhaps the differnce betwen you and I is that I investiagte things for myself. My motto in my signature is a good oneto live by - give it a whirl.

The reason for that is that you go out and find the one instance that can serve your view. I stick to what I have read and form a overall view from that.

And yet you refuse to read the 'slanderous' article in question. I've even posted a link, it's just a click away.

I've read it before. You want me to read it again?

Not neccessarily - just tell us what part of it is untrue.

Like I said, I don't really care about the plaintiffs and so on, just happy to see the racist spanked finally by the courts.

But if it pleases you, I'll read it when I have some more spare time and come back to you with an opinion on the actual case.

so you dont care about the FACTS of the case, only that Bolt lost? and I guess youthink that entitles you to a credible opinion?

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Doctor Jolly Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3808	Re: 'Hard Right' Bolt Is Guilty Reply #48 - Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:16pm I bet we wont see much of this "news" in the News Ltd press.
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Re: 'Hard Right' Bolt Is Guilty
Reply #49 - Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:17pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:05pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:59am:

... wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:48am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:47am:

... wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:44am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:42am:

... wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:41am:

Quote:

Wes, I'm not going to go through Bolt's articles. I usually enjoy reading them when I'm drunk just to get a good laugh. But as per normal, we can quote all we want to make a point. I'm simply saying that from what I have read from him, I have found him to be more a racist than a protector of human identity.

Perhaps the differnce betwen you and I is that I investiagte things for myself. My motto in my signature is a good oneto live by - give it a whirl.

The reason for that is that you go out and find the one instance that can serve your view. I stick to what I have read and form a overall view from that.

And yet you refuse to read the 'slanderous' article in question. I've even posted a link, it's just a click away.

I've read it before. You want me to read it again?

Not neccessarily - just tell us what part of it is untrue.

Like I said, I don't really care about the plaintiffs and so on, just happy to see the racist spanked finally by the courts.

But if it pleases you, I'll read it when I have some more spare time and come back to you with an opinion on the actual case.

so you dont care about the FACTS of the case, only that Bolt lost? and I guess youthink that entitles you to a credible opinion?

To tell the truth this is the first time this news has crossed my path and I've read only the last couple of posts . But surely if the courts find you guilty it's exceptional that you're not?

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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: 'Hard Right' Bolt Is Guilty Reply #50 - Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:18pm Doctor Jolly wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:16pm: I bet we wont see much of this "news" in the News Ltd press. wrong as usual. http://www.news.com.au/national/andrew-bolt-breached-discrimination-act-court/story-e6frfkvr-1226148978809
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sir prince duke alevine

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Re: 'Hard Right' Bolt Is Guilty
Reply #51 - Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:22pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:05pm:

so you dont care about the FACTS of the case, only that Bolt lost? and I guess youthink that entitles you to a credible opinion?

I don't know how many times you wish me to repeat this, longie. Grin

I've told you FROM THE VERY BEGINNING that I'm just happy that he is finally being spanked for something given all his PAST crap articles. You take that with any grain of salt that you like Grin

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philperth2010 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20165 Perth Gender:	Re: 'Hard Right' Bolt Is Guilty Reply #52 - Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:23pm Bolt lied.....What's new.....Anyone who listens to this bloke is an idiot!!!
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barnaby joe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1992 euchareena	Re: 'Hard Right' Bolt Is Guilty Reply #53 - Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:24pm dem white blackfullas
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Reply #54 - Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:27pm

one thing that image reminded me of is something ive tended to notice - almost ALWAYS do these racial hybrids have irish surnames. micks have the distinction of being the white ethny that will mate with ANYTHING. seriously, every single time I come across some x/y/z/white combo, “white” means oyrish.

thank god we aren’t cross-fertile with donkeys or we’d all be saddled with donkey/mick hybrids. if centaurs were real, they’d be mick from the waist up.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: 'Hard Right' Bolt Is Guilty Reply #55 - Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:28pm Who would have thought a court of law would find Bolt was a compulsive liar and racist? This bloke is a dog pure and simple
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barnaby joe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1992 euchareena	Re: 'Hard Right' Bolt Is Guilty Reply #56 - Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:29pm a court found somebody to be a compulsive liar and gasp, a racist?!?! convict him!!! throw away the key!!!
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Re: 'Hard Right' Bolt Is Guilty
Reply #57 - Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:29pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:40am:

Doctor Jolly wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:38am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:18am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 11:10am:

While I don't know anything about the plaintiffs in this case, all I can say is that it is great that the idiot Bolt has finally been caught out. Speech that spurs racial hatred or defamation against minorities is not FREE SPEECH.

spurs racial hatred? hardly. you over estimate Bolts influence or power. He appears to have stepped over the line in his article froma legal perspective but he was addressing a common complaint that people make that a large number of aboriginal people - espcially activists - seem to be disturbingly WHITE. 1/16 aboriginal may be aboriginal by law but certianly not by common sense.

Since when has the colour of your skin been the one requirement to be considered aboriginal ?
If it was, any albino abo would be automatically excluded from the race.

Whatever your proportion of abo blood in your body be 1t 100% , 50%, .... 1/16th. Its still in your body. Its in your heritage, and its a defining aspect of who you are. You wear the baggage of that line with you, same as if you were 1/16th Jew or anything else.

An activist doesnt even need to below to a race to advocate positivity towards it.

Doctor...to be fair I'd say the proportion of blood is important... I have like... 5% Polish blood, but that doesn't mean I'm out there saying I'm Polish and demand a Polish citizenship. Likewise, I'm 5% French. And while I'd love to get an EU passport, I'd never be able to.

Thats just a question of where you draw the line.

I have English born grandparents. They moved out here when they were young, and so I have been born and bred Australian for 2 generations (more on the other side of the family).

Yet I can still get an EU passport. Entitling me to travel and earn a lot more overseas than those without. Bolt, and muppets like him, would have me tainted as an imposter. Am I ?

I dont think it should prohibit me from being an activist on british issues either.

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Re: 'Hard Right' Bolt Is Guilty
Reply #58 - Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:31pm

philperth2010 wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:23pm:

Bolt lied.....What's new.....Anyone who listens to this bloke is an idiot!!!

Roll Eyes

"In concluding the eight day proceedings, counsel for the plaintiffs conceded Bolt's writings did not incite “racial vilification or racial hatred”, rather they “constituted highly personal, highly derogatory and highly offensive attacks” on the nine individuals"

No mention of lies... Wink

Perhaps what really offended them was people learning the truth? Tongue

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Re: 'Hard Right' Bolt Is Guilty
Reply #59 - Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:39pm

adelcrow wrote on Sep 28^th, 2011 at 12:28pm:

Who would have thought a court of law would find Bolt was a compulsive liar and racist?
This bloke is a dog pure and simple

"In concluding the eight day proceedings, counsel for the plaintiffs conceded Bolt's writings did not incite “racial vilification or racial hatred”, rather they “constituted highly personal, highly derogatory and highly offensive attacks” on the nine individuals"

No mention of lies... Wink

Perhaps what really offended them was people learning the truth? Tongue

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