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Ukraine's nationalists protest Jewish pilgrimage
Sep 28th, 2011 at 5:33pm
 
Ukraine's nationalists protest Jewish pilgrimage


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Riot police detain a demonstrator during a rally of protest against pilgrimage of Hassidic Jews in the town of Uman, 200 kilometers (125 miles) south of Ukraine's capital Kiev, Sunday, Sept. 25, 2011. Some 30,000 Hasidic Jews from around the world are expected in Uman next week to mark the Jewish New Year, or Rosh Hashana, at the tomb of Rabbi Nachman, the great grandson of the founder of Hasidism.

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A woman screams at riot police officers during a rally of protest against pilgrimage of Hassidic Jews in the town of Uman, 200 kilometers (125 miles) south of Ukraine's capital Kiev, Sunday, Sept. 25, 2011.

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Police have detained about 100 activists of Ukraine's nationalist party who protested the annual pilgrimage of Hasidic Jews in southern Ukraine.

About 300 supporters of the nationalist party Svoboda, or Liberty, demanded that Hasid Jews not be allowed to gather in the town of Uman, about 125 miles (200 kilometers) south of the capital.

Close to 30,000 Hasidic Jews from around the world are expected in Uman this week to celebrate Rosh Hoshana at the grave of Rabbi Nachman of Bratslav, who died in 1810.

The protesters shouted "Ukraine for Ukrainians" at Sunday's rally.

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Re: Ukraine's nationalists protest Jewish pilgrimage
Reply #1 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 8:27pm
 
falah wrote on Sep 28th, 2011 at 5:33pm:
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About 300 supporters of the nationalist party Svoboda, or Liberty, demanded that Hasid Jews not be allowed to gather in the town of Uman, about 125 miles (200 kilometers) south of the capital.



Warms your heart, doesn't it. You are not the only crazies in the world.
"Look, white people are crazy like Mohammedans, too."


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Reply #2 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 9:01pm
 
Soren wrote on Sep 28th, 2011 at 8:27pm:
falah wrote on Sep 28th, 2011 at 5:33pm:
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About 300 supporters of the nationalist party Svoboda, or Liberty, demanded that Hasid Jews not be allowed to gather in the town of Uman, about 125 miles (200 kilometers) south of the capital.



Warms your heart, doesn't it. You are not the only crazies in the world.
"Look, white people are crazy like Mohammedans, too."




You have an unhealthy obsession with Muslims Soren . Better see a psychiatrist about that.
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Re: Ukraine's nationalists protest Jewish pilgrimage
Reply #3 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 10:55pm
 
Rather than warming anyone's heart Soren, I think Falah is just trying (as I've done on numerous occasions) to highlight that when you promote and encourage hatemongers (as you and others in the West routinely do), they might not just stop at attacking Muslims, as you'd like them to, they'll continue attacking anything perceived as foreign.

You just can't get past the opportunity to take a cheapshot at Muslims yet again, to be able to take this on board can you?
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Reply #4 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 11:06pm
 
In my view, a sharia-compliant, ummah-mongering Salafist like you speaking for tolerance of anything no-Salafist is like a dog walking on its hind legs -  a trick achieved as a result of rigorous training contrary to the dog's nature.



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Reply #5 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 11:14pm
 
fresh water, ocean, drought... what more can I say.
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Reply #6 - Sep 28th, 2011 at 11:27pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Sep 28th, 2011 at 11:14pm:
fresh water, ocean, drought... what more can I say.




Honest plain speaking being contrary to your acquired nature, you could say a whole lot more without , well, saying anything.


If you had to speak plainly and honestly, your game would be given away instantly. You want a sharia-ruled world and under sharia most things now protecting your activism and agitation would be punishable by death: under your kind of system I could not speak my mind and agitate for an end of sharia.

Sharia - stick it up your jumpah. It does belong up there.





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Reply #7 - Sep 29th, 2011 at 9:51am
 
Soren wrote on Sep 28th, 2011 at 11:27pm:
abu_rashid wrote on Sep 28th, 2011 at 11:14pm:
fresh water, ocean, drought... what more can I say.


Honest plain speaking being contrary to your acquired nature, you could say a whole lot more without , well, saying anything.


If you had to speak plainly and honestly, your game would be given away instantly. You want a sharia-ruled world and under sharia most things now protecting your activism and agitation would be punishable by death: under your kind of system I could not speak my mind and agitate for an end of sharia.


Sharia - stick it up your jumpah. It does belong up there.




Well said.


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Reply #8 - Sep 29th, 2011 at 10:35pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Sep 28th, 2011 at 11:14pm:
fresh water, ocean, drought... what more can I say.



Something meaningful would be a good start. If it could then be honest and consistent - that would be cause for sitting up and paying attention.

We both know that you won't or can't do it, though. Nor galah.

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Reply #9 - Sep 30th, 2011 at 12:37pm
 
Abu Rashid has said before that trying to impart knowledge on you, Soren, is like pouring water on the ocean in the middle of a drought.

You probably don't understand the analogy, but so far it has proved to be a valid one.
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Reply #10 - Sep 30th, 2011 at 12:57pm
 
falah wrote on Sep 30th, 2011 at 12:37pm:
Abu Rashid has said before that trying to impart knowledge on you is like pouring water on the ocean in the middle of a drought.

You probably don't understand the analogy, but so far it has proved to be a valid one.



What did I tell ya: "If it could then be honest and consistent - that would be cause for sitting up and paying attention. We both know that you won't or can't do it, though. Nor galah."



You just can't be straight and honest. You want a world ruled by sharia. But under sharia, all your current freedoms that allow you to agitate for it would be illegal and some even  punishable by death.

For you the only excuse for the freedoms you enjoy is that they enable you to undermine them. Yet you and ABu have the temerity to talk about apostay in terms of treason.

Which, incidentally also reveals the truth that Islam is a militant political creed. Its guiding self-conception and metaphor is War.
(For Judaism it's the Law, for Christianity, Love.)






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Reply #11 - Oct 1st, 2011 at 1:13pm
 
Soren wrote on Sep 30th, 2011 at 12:57pm:
(For Judaism it's the Law, for Christianity, Love.)

Obviously your understanding of Christianity is very shallow.

Do you not see the irony of associating Christianity with love in view of its violent history? Such love we can do without:

*The Crusades
*The Spanish Inquisition
*Catholic vs Protestant Wars in Europe
*Massacres of Native Americans by Conquistidors
*Massacre of Malacca
*George(God told me to) Bush's invasion of Afghanistan & Iraq


Do you not see the irony of associating Judaism with the Law when Jews habitually violate their own law? Go to Israel and see if they follow their laws on:

*adultery
*homosexuality
*apostasy
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Reply #12 - Oct 1st, 2011 at 6:41pm
 
falah wrote on Oct 1st, 2011 at 1:13pm:
Soren wrote on Sep 30th, 2011 at 12:57pm:
(For Judaism it's the Law, for Christianity, Love.)

Obviously your understanding of Christianity is very shallow.

Do you not see the irony of associating Christianity with love in view of its violent history? Such love we can do without:

*The Crusades
*The Spanish Inquisition
*Catholic vs Protestant Wars in Europe
*Massacres of Native Americans by Conquistidors
*Massacre of Malacca
*George(God told me to) Bush's invasion of Afghanistan & Iraq


Do you not see the irony of associating Judaism with the Law when Jews habitually violate their own law? Go to Israel and see if they follow their laws on:

*adultery
*homosexuality
*apostasy
etc.



Are you saying that EVERY Muslim lives exactly by the standards of Islam??

The point, of course, is that as a Jew or a Christian, you have standards to live up to.
As a Muslim, you just have to wage jihad. That's the only standard you have to lower yourself to. War in the name of Allah. That trumps everything else.





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Reply #13 - Oct 2nd, 2011 at 9:23pm
 
Make no mistake about it, ultra-orthodox Judaism is as rotting a pile of filth as Islamism. The same goes for militant fundamentalist Christianity.

They're all garbage the world can do without.
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Reply #14 - Oct 2nd, 2011 at 9:40pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Oct 2nd, 2011 at 9:23pm:
Make no mistake about it, ultra-orthodox Judaism is as rotting a pile of filth as Islamism. The same goes for militant fundamentalist Christianity.

They're all garbage the world can do without.



Yeah, they are all flying planes into building, blowing up bars, trains, tube stations, buses, shoot their comrades in arms in uniform, murder their women, shoot their girls going to school and so on and so forth.

I thought you had brains and some intelligence, Helian, but you are no better and no smarter than all the other lazy buggers who just want to 'git outa' the discussion on a stupid excuse like equvication. "Oh, it all the same, no different tha... " is the opening gambit of lazy fvcks with bad intentions.

The fundamentalist Christians and Jews may have their own stupidities and monstrosities but to just wash it all together woth the jihadists is nothing but throwing your arms in the air and saying you can't be fagged to tell the difference. Which means " I am too stupid to tell the difference".  Looks like you are, after all.



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