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Oct 4^th, 2011 at 11:23pm

O this is too rich this is. The slags behind the Tea-Party are caught trading with America's no1 enemy. How will this be swept away? Talk about Obama being a Moooslim, unamerican, Hitler. The hypocrisy of the Right knows no boundaries.

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The leading financiers of the Tea Party movement were last night attempting to rebut claims that a portion of their wealth comes from secretly doing business with the most un-American trading partner imaginable: the hard-line government of Iran.

Charles and David Koch, the prominent billionaires who fund a string of influential conservative think-tanks, stand accused of selling tens of millions of dollars worth of petrochemicals to Tehran, despite a longstanding US trade embargo against the nation that the former President, George W Bush, dubbed a pillar of his "Axis of Evil".
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/billionaire-koch-brothers-in-th...

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: A right Koch up! Reply #1 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 5:55am In another time and another place (several, actually) they'd have been executed for this.
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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: A right Koch up! Reply #2 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 6:26am mmmmm the games people play. Why am I not surprised about this. The whole political system is a scam.
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: A right Koch up! Reply #3 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 7:33am I wonder if everyone knows where the superfund money is invested??????.. wouldnt it be hilarious if the day they retired they found out all their money was coming from things they despised...I wonder if they would send it back...dont make me laugh.
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Re: A right Koch up!
Reply #4 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 7:51am

cods wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 7:33am:

I wonder if everyone knows where the superfund money is invested??????..

wouldnt it be hilarious if the day they retired they found out all their money was coming from things they despised...I wonder if they would send it back...dont make me laugh.

Who knows? That's the problem when governments have control over OUR money. The super funds don't tell you exactly where it's invested. Some people will be lucky to get anything when they retire anyway. Wholesale robbery by the government of the people, it is.

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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #5 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 7:56am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 7:51am:

cods wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 7:33am:

I wonder if everyone knows where the superfund money is invested??????..

wouldnt it be hilarious if the day they retired they found out all their money was coming from things they despised...I wonder if they would send it back...dont make me laugh.

Who knows? That's the problem when governments have control over OUR money. The super funds don't tell you exactly where it's invested. Some people will be lucky to get anything when they retire anyway. Wholesale robbery by the government of the people, it is.

my point though pansi.. is its a bit two faced to point the finger at a political party because you dont like them... when today just about everyone is in the same boat...do we care really where the money comes from as long as we get our share..

we have a very hypocitical system here where its a crime to take donations from a cigarette company... but not so to take money from an alcohol business.... yet I know which is the bigger demon.

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Reply #6 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 8:03am

cods wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 7:56am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 7:51am:

cods wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 7:33am:

I wonder if everyone knows where the superfund money is invested??????..

wouldnt it be hilarious if the day they retired they found out all their money was coming from things they despised...I wonder if they would send it back...dont make me laugh.

Who knows? That's the problem when governments have control over OUR money. The super funds don't tell you exactly where it's invested. Some people will be lucky to get anything when they retire anyway. Wholesale robbery by the government of the people, it is.

my point though pansi.. is its a bit two faced to point the finger at a political party because you dont like them... when today just about everyone is in the same boat...do we care really where the money comes from as long as we get our share..

we have a very hypocitical system here where its a crime to take donations from a cigarette company... but not so to take money from an alcohol business.... yet I know which is the bigger demon.

So we ignore it all?
Just the other week you were screaming blue murder about credit card abuse yet today you shrug your shoulders about corruption at the highest levels.
These 2 guys are responsible for most of the misery you see in the USA today with their corporate practices, but their conservatives so ho hum.

Original report here
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-02/koch-brothers-flout-law-getting-richer-...

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Reply #7 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 8:11am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 8:03am:

cods wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 7:56am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 7:51am:

cods wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 7:33am:

I wonder if everyone knows where the superfund money is invested??????..

wouldnt it be hilarious if the day they retired they found out all their money was coming from things they despised...I wonder if they would send it back...dont make me laugh.

Who knows? That's the problem when governments have control over OUR money. The super funds don't tell you exactly where it's invested. Some people will be lucky to get anything when they retire anyway. Wholesale robbery by the government of the people, it is.

my point though pansi.. is its a bit two faced to point the finger at a political party because you dont like them... when today just about everyone is in the same boat...do we care really where the money comes from as long as we get our share..

we have a very hypocitical system here where its a crime to take donations from a cigarette company... but not so to take money from an alcohol business.... yet I know which is the bigger demon.

So we ignore it all?
Just the other week you were screaming blue murder about credit card abuse yet today you shrug your shoulders about corruption at the highest levels.
These 2 guys are responsible for most of the misery you see in the USA today with their corporate practices, but their conservatives so ho hum.

smithy I know you never agree with me... but I am not saying anything about Koch....I have never heard of them... and its all over my head... the complain here in the OP is about the Teaparty... again something I know very little about..

I was just pointing out... how do any of us know where our money is being invested... even if we leave it in a bank it is still being invested isnt it?..

anyway I dont think I am shrugging my shoulders at all at crime as you put it..

think about this union investigation and then ask yourself about corruption and how long has it been going on for..and how wide is it spread.

its not just at the highest level

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FriYAY Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7395	Re: A right Koch up! Reply #8 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 11:24am YAY! Partisan hack news from the USA! LOL, who gives a flying f at the moon?
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Grey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5341 Gender:	Re: A right Koch up! Reply #9 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 11:57am FriYAY wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 11:24am: YAY! Partisan hack news from the USA! LOL, who gives a flying f at the moon? It's naive to think that the machinations of the koch bros. in the US isn't impacting on Australian politics. http://www.democracynow.org/2011/4/21/thought_control_right_wing_koch_brothers
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Reply #10 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 1:38pm

Grey wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 11:57am:

FriYAY wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 11:24am:

YAY!

Partisan hack news from the USA!

LOL, who gives a flying f at the moon?

It's naive to think that the machinations of the koch bros. in the US isn't impacting on Australian politics.

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/4/21/thought_control_right_wing_koch_brothers

You want me to look at a story labelled…thought control right wing koch brothers!

Really!!

Most people in OZ wouldn’t know them or the tea party. That’s just for foil hatters.

Get a grip dude.

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Reply #11 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 2:24pm

FriYAY wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 1:38pm:

Grey wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 11:57am:

FriYAY wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 11:24am:

YAY!

Partisan hack news from the USA!

LOL, who gives a flying f at the moon?

It's naive to think that the machinations of the koch bros. in the US isn't impacting on Australian politics.

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/4/21/thought_control_right_wing_koch_brothers

You want me to look at a story labelled…thought control right wing koch brothers!

Really!!

Most people in OZ wouldn’t know them or the tea party. That’s just for foil hatters.

Get a grip dude.

I do not conduct foil hat orchestra's.

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In an article titled "Big Brothers: Thought Control at Koch," Mark Ames and Mike Elk report on an urgent letter that Koch Industries sent to most of its 50,000 employees on the eve of the November elections. The letter advised them on whom to vote for and warned them of the dire consequences to their families, their jobs and their country, should they choose to vote otherwise. Koch Industries is run by billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch. They have helped bankroll the Tea Party movement and dozens of other right-wing causes.

Without knowing, I will say not only will that happen in Australia but I'd make a modest bet that it HAS happened. Already we are getting political messages inserted into football commentary. Whatever money CAN buy it WILL buy, and Democracy is dead. When the mining oligarchs took on the government to defeat the attempt to tax their profits the Koch bros were the blueprint. If you haven't heard of the Koch's you're not paying enough attention.

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Reply #12 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 3:07pm

Grey wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 2:24pm:

FriYAY wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 1:38pm:

Grey wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 11:57am:

FriYAY wrote on Oct 5^th, 2011 at 11:24am:

YAY!

Partisan hack news from the USA!

LOL, who gives a flying f at the moon?

It's naive to think that the machinations of the koch bros. in the US isn't impacting on Australian politics.

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/4/21/thought_control_right_wing_koch_brothers

You want me to look at a story labelled…thought control right wing koch brothers!

Really!!

Most people in OZ wouldn’t know them or the tea party. That’s just for foil hatters.

Get a grip dude.

I do not conduct foil hat orchestra's.

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In an article titled "Big Brothers: Thought Control at Koch," Mark Ames and Mike Elk report on an urgent letter that Koch Industries sent to most of its 50,000 employees on the eve of the November elections. The letter advised them on whom to vote for and warned them of the dire consequences to their families, their jobs and their country, should they choose to vote otherwise. Koch Industries is run by billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch. They have helped bankroll the Tea Party movement and dozens of other right-wing causes.

Without knowing, I will say not only will that happen in Australia but I'd make a modest bet that it HAS happened. Already we are getting political messages inserted into football commentary. Whatever money CAN buy it WILL buy, and Democracy is dead. When the mining oligarchs took on the government to defeat the attempt to tax their profits the Koch bros were the blueprint. If you haven't heard of the Koch's you're not paying enough attention.

SO?

Who do you think the Unions tell their members to vote for?

Toxic Tony and a return to Work Choices?

LOL Cheesy

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Reply #13 - Oct 5^th, 2011 at 3:23pm

Grey wrote on Oct 4^th, 2011 at 11:23pm:

O this is too rich this is. The slags behind the Tea-Party are caught trading with America's no1 enemy. How will this be swept away? Talk about Obama being a Moooslim, unamerican, Hitler. The hypocrisy of the Right knows no boundaries.

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The leading financiers of the Tea Party movement were last night attempting to rebut claims that a portion of their wealth comes from secretly doing business with the most un-American trading partner imaginable: the hard-line government of Iran.

Charles and David Koch, the prominent billionaires who fund a string of influential conservative think-tanks, stand accused of selling tens of millions of dollars worth of petrochemicals to Tehran, despite a longstanding US trade embargo against the nation that the former President, George W Bush, dubbed a pillar of his "Axis of Evil".
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/billionaire-koch-brothers-in-th...

And since when have 'rich' bastards ever worried about the rules????

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In an article titled "Big Brothers: Thought Control at Koch," Mark Ames and Mike Elk report on an urgent letter that Koch Industries sent to most of its 50,000 employees on the eve of the November elections. The letter advised them on whom to vote for and warned them of the dire consequences to their families, their jobs and their country, should they choose to vote otherwise. Koch Industries is run by billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch. They have helped bankroll the Tea Party movement and dozens of other right-wing causes.

While thse nasty men were writing letters advising their employees who to vote for, the "good guys" were using more crude means to get their 'advice' across:

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