Australian Politics Forum - The post-carbon tax bill poll

Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26420 Gender:	The post-carbon tax bill poll Oct 14^th, 2011 at 6:12pm Just wondering what everyone thinks will happen with Labor's polling now the carbon tax has been passed through parliament? Do you think they'll get a rise, or suffer a fall or will their polling numbers stay much the same?
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26420 Gender:	Re: The post-carbon tax bill poll Reply #1 - Oct 14^th, 2011 at 6:13pm My opinion - Labor's numbers are going to go subterranean, possibly the first poll ever to record a minus figure.
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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14213 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: The post-carbon tax bill poll Reply #2 - Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:14pm Labor's polling will rise AFTER the permit sale system - and compensation packages - have been put in place without the "sky falling in" This explains Tony Abbott's deperation in having an early election
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matty Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11055 East Sydney Gender:	Re: The post-carbon tax bill poll Reply #3 - Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:16pm Their primary vote may well be less than 20. Let Buzz go on with his usual garbage.
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GoddyofOz Gold Member Offline Vote 1 for Sex, cause you're gay if you don't Posts: 2397	Re: The post-carbon tax bill poll Reply #4 - Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:17pm I doubt they will change at all; they'll keep on polling low until Gillard is gone, that's the only thing keeping them low. Righties can blame the Tax itself all they want, but they know they're kidding themselves.
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Re: The post-carbon tax bill poll
Reply #5 - Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:23pm

GoddyofOz wrote on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:17pm:

I doubt they will change at all; they'll keep on polling low until Gillard is gone, that's the only thing keeping them low.

Righties can blame the Tax itself all they want, but they know they're kidding themselves.

Listen, son, you have been spending too much time with Oakeshott.

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Re: The post-carbon tax bill poll
Reply #6 - Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:23pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:14pm:

Labor's polling will rise AFTER the permit sale system - and compensation packages - have been put in place without the "sky falling in"

This explains Tony Abbott's deperation in having an early election

This government seriously doesn't deserve to stay in power. I am not saying that lightly. They have been abysmal and almost everything they have touched they have made a mess of.

Abbott is not the leader for the coalition - they have better quality candidates and generally better "real" world experience than labor.

The Greens are just plain dangerous - What we need is a revamped Australian Democrats party. A real alternative with real policies.

I am so tired of people running this country that have never been responsible for putting the pay packets of employees in their pockets. What we need is a few good candidates from the small business sector - these people really are the working poor yet they continue the battle. We need backbone and principle to make a comeback to Australian politics.

Maybe i should just start my own party - any takers.

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Reply #7 - Oct 14^th, 2011 at 9:03pm

matty wrote on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:23pm:

GoddyofOz wrote on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:17pm:

I doubt they will change at all; they'll keep on polling low until Gillard is gone, that's the only thing keeping them low.

Righties can blame the Tax itself all they want, but they know they're kidding themselves.

Listen, son, you have been spending too much time with Oakeshott.

you been spending to much time with alan jones matty

you want to keep away from public toilets and you might learn something

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Re: The post-carbon tax bill poll
Reply #8 - Oct 14^th, 2011 at 9:04pm

edB wrote on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:23pm:

Maybe i should just start my own party - any takers.

'EdB' meet "Matty': http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=matty

'Matty' meet 'EdB': http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=edB

No doubt 'Karnal' will introduce himself...

Wink

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Lamenting the shift in the Australian psyche, away from the egalitarian ideal of the fair-go - and the rise of short-sighted pollies, who worship the 'Growth Fairy' and seek to divide and conquer!

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Wattle Grove

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Reply #9 - Oct 14^th, 2011 at 9:09pm

edB wrote on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:23pm:

This government seriously doesn't deserve to stay in power. I am not saying that lightly. They have been abysmal and almost everything they have touched they have made a mess of.

Abbott is not the leader for the coalition - they have better quality candidates and generally better "real" world experience than labor.

The Greens are just plain dangerous - What we need is a revamped Australian Democrats party. A real alternative with real policies.

I am so tired of people running this country that have never been responsible for putting the pay packets of employees in their pockets. What we need is a few good candidates from the small business sector - these people really are the working poor yet they continue the battle. We need backbone and principle to make a comeback to Australian politics.

Maybe i should just start my own party - any takers.

I started a post on Turnbull joining the Democrats the other day I think it would be good if he did join them and they would be a strong party then.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1318284773

and people said that they were dead in the water

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Re: The post-carbon tax bill poll
Reply #10 - Oct 14^th, 2011 at 9:14pm

Equitist wrote on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 9:04pm:

edB wrote on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:23pm:

Maybe i should just start my own party - any takers.

'EdB' meet "Matty': http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=matty

'Matty' meet 'EdB': http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username=edB

No doubt 'Karnal' will introduce himself...

Wink

No need Nem. I would strongly advise ed to join the Liberal Party. He would be most welcome.

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: The post-carbon tax bill poll Reply #11 - Oct 15^th, 2011 at 6:05am only if you are bent or tainted need apply for membership to the ALP.. Williamson and Thomson are still fully paid up members..
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Re: The post-carbon tax bill poll
Reply #12 - Oct 15^th, 2011 at 10:43am

edB wrote on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:23pm:

This government seriously doesn't deserve to stay in power. I am not saying that lightly. They have been abysmal and almost everything they have touched they have made a mess of.

Absolutely.

edB wrote on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:23pm:

Abbott is not the leader for the coalition - they have better quality candidates and generally better "real" world experience than labor.

Disagree....the change to Abbott started the slide for Labor. Until then there was no political alternative. He has single handedly smashed the ALP.

edB wrote on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:23pm:

The Greens are just plain dangerous

Can't argue with that comment Cheesy

edB wrote on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:23pm:

- What we need is a revamped Australian Democrats party. A real alternative with real policies.

I disagree, fence sitters are useless. The Demoncrats are evidence of that.

edB wrote on Oct 14^th, 2011 at 8:23pm:

I am so tired of people running this country that have never been responsible for putting the pay packets of employees in their pockets. What we need is a few good candidates from the small business sector - these people really are the working poor yet they continue the battle. We need backbone and principle to make a comeback to Australian politics.

Maybe i should just start my own party - any takers.

This sector and indeed the so-called mega rich will always be outnumbered by the 'downtrodden' masses in a democracy.

25% of tax payers pay 64% of income tax.

You could say that the Coalition represents that top 25% and the smart ones from the other 75% (likely your working poor you mentioned) that know that their standard of living relies on not strangling the top 25% because that would be killing the golden goose. Sad

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Reply #13 - Oct 15^th, 2011 at 10:58am

The first face-to-face Morgan Poll taken after the Gillard Government Tax Forum shows a sharp rise in support for the ALP 47.5% (up 4.5%) compared to the L-NP 52.5% (down 4.5%) on a Two-Party preferred basis. The L-NP primary vote is 43.5% (down 3%), still ahead of the ALP 38.5% (up 3%) — this is the highest ALP primary support since March.

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Reply #14 - Oct 15^th, 2011 at 2:48pm

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The first face-to-face Morgan Poll taken after the Gillard Government Tax Forum shows a sharp rise in support for the ALP 47.5% (up 4.5%) compared to the L-NP 52.5% (down 4.5%) on a Two-Party preferred basis. The L-NP primary vote is 43.5% (down 3%), still ahead of the ALP 38.5% (up 3%) — this is the highest ALP primary support since March.

Before you get too excited remember that the Morgan Face-to-face poll has consistently been wrong by large margins. every other polling group - EVERY ONE - has shown the ALP at 29% primary support - not 38.5%. and these other groups have consistently been proven correct at elections whereas morgan has been consistently wrong by a huge margin - just as now.

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Question: Will Labor's post-carbon tax bill numbers rise or fall?
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