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Reply #75 - Oct 17^th, 2011 at 4:52pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 4:49pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 4:48pm:

barnaby joe wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 4:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 4:40pm:

Here's a good one: animal welfare.

im not paying for those bludging koalas - get out of yer gumtrees and get a job you lazy f*cks

But they are so cute and they get the dollars in from the Japenese tourists.

A bit like the Great Barrier Reef, but Tony's not having a bar of it.

It will be dead soon because a failed climate model said so. Hang on, if it is failed, maybe the b-reef will survive. Never mind.

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Reply #76 - Oct 17^th, 2011 at 4:59pm

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 4:52pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 4:49pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 4:48pm:

barnaby joe wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 4:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 4:40pm:

Here's a good one: animal welfare.

im not paying for those bludging koalas - get out of yer gumtrees and get a job you lazy f*cks

But they are so cute and they get the dollars in from the Japenese tourists.

A bit like the Great Barrier Reef, but Tony's not having a bar of it.

It will be dead soon because a failed climate model said so. Hang on, if it is failed, maybe the b-reef will survive. Never mind.

You think? Did Piers Ackerman find a new scientist who doesn't believe in climate change?

That's number 4 on his list.

I expect we'll be hearing a lot from them. Conferences, book tours, interviews on Lateline, adoring chirps from Alan and all those Sunday Telegraph columns.

The Great Barrier Reef will still get to die. It won't be the fault of climate change, of course, but a strange, unaccountable phenomenon - an act of God.

What can you do? Straight Tony will look sad, but you can't change the will of God, that much we know.

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barnaby joe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1992 euchareena	Re: Abbott at all time LOW Reply #77 - Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:00pm i don't think we can do much. i'm more banking on the united states and china doing something if we really want the reef to live.
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Reply #78 - Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:11pm

barnaby joe wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:00pm:

i don't think we can do much. i'm more banking on the united states and china doing something if we really want the reef to live.

We know we get most of our attitudes from America, especially the Liberal party & media, so forget America.
And if the up and coming Chinese middle class adopt the (apparently)Australian attitiude of "Stuff that we aren't doing Sh!t until X does"well go see the reef in the next couple of years, because that mysterious virus that Karnal speaks of is definately on it's way.

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Reply #79 - Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:44pm

barnaby joe wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:00pm:

i don't think we can do much. i'm more banking on the united states and china doing something if we really want the reef to live.

Good point, Cliff. What do you think, Progressive? Should Tony wait for the US and China?

It'd be strange if he did and they then went and DID something, wouldn't it? He might have to go back on a blood oath, something straight Tony takes very seriously indeed.

Oh, well. Let's hope nothing happens and it was all a bad dream. Tony can put the carbon tax money into important things like baby bonuses and tax cuts for stay at home mums.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Abbott at all time LOW Reply #80 - Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:49pm Tony has made it obvious that he wants Australia to go back to old way of doing things..DONT DO ANYTHING UNTIL EVERY OTHER COUNTRY HAS DONE IT! Abbott is a follower, an opportunist and a coward..he is not and has never been a leader.
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Reply #81 - Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:49pm

barnaby joe wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:00pm:

i don't think we can do much. i'm more banking on the united states and china doing something if we really want the reef to live.

The reef will live, then climate will change. It is called natural migration. Look at history to find where migrations have taken place in the past.

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Reply #82 - Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:50pm

adelcrow wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:49pm:

Tony has made it obvious that he wants Australia to go back to old way of doing things..DONT DO ANYTHING UNTIL EVERY OTHER COUNTRY HAS DONE IT!
Abbott is a follower, an opportunist and a coward..he is not and has never been a leader.

No, he just isn't a knee jerk reactor(an idiot) and he is doing something. He just isn't being led by a fake consencus of crappy scientists.

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Reply #83 - Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:59pm

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:50pm:

adelcrow wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:49pm:

Tony has made it obvious that he wants Australia to go back to old way of doing things..DONT DO ANYTHING UNTIL EVERY OTHER COUNTRY HAS DONE IT!
Abbott is a follower, an opportunist and a coward..he is not and has never been a leader.

No, he just isn't a knee jerk reactor(an idiot) and he is doing something. He just isn't being led by a fake consencus of crappy scientists.

So true..he would rather take advice from a few uneducated shock jocks than the worlds most respected climate scientists Grin

But hang on..news flash, the carbon tax was Tony Abbotts idea in the first place Grin

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Reply #84 - Oct 17^th, 2011 at 6:04pm

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:49pm:

barnaby joe wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:00pm:

i don't think we can do much. i'm more banking on the united states and china doing something if we really want the reef to live.

The reef will live, then climate will change. It is called natural migration. Look at history to find where migrations have taken place in the past.

That's a real relief, Progressive. I'm glad Tony's putting his money on the science of natural migration. That will save industry from having to switch to natural gas and carbon sequestration and all those other useless things the Liberals want to pay them to do. What a waste of money!

Perhaps he should use his influence as leader to get the Libs to do nothing. Maybe Alan should sit him down for a man to man talk on natural migration.

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Reply #85 - Oct 17^th, 2011 at 6:21pm

Karnal wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 6:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:49pm:

barnaby joe wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:00pm:

i don't think we can do much. i'm more banking on the united states and china doing something if we really want the reef to live.

The reef will live, then climate will change. It is called natural migration. Look at history to find where migrations have taken place in the past.

That's a real relief, Progressive. I'm glad Tony's putting his money on the science of natural migration. That will save industry from having to switch to natural gas and carbon sequestration and all those other useless things the Liberals want to pay them to do. What a waste of money!

Perhaps he should use his influence as leader to get the Libs to do nothing. Maybe Alan should sit him down for a man to man talk on natural migration.

He would have to get you off Alan first, but sure if Alan knows any scientist to chalk up a conversation, then why not.

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Reply #86 - Oct 17^th, 2011 at 6:49pm

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 6:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 6:04pm:

progressiveslol wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:49pm:

barnaby joe wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:00pm:

i don't think we can do much. i'm more banking on the united states and china doing something if we really want the reef to live.

The reef will live, then climate will change. It is called natural migration. Look at history to find where migrations have taken place in the past.

That's a real relief, Progressive. I'm glad Tony's putting his money on the science of natural migration. That will save industry from having to switch to natural gas and carbon sequestration and all those other useless things the Liberals want to pay them to do. What a waste of money!

Perhaps he should use his influence as leader to get the Libs to do nothing. Maybe Alan should sit him down for a man to man talk on natural migration.

He would have to get you off Alan first, but sure if Alan knows any scientist to chalk up a conversation, then why not.

That's a really good idea, Progressive, because Tony keeps saying things like "human induced climate change" as if he really believes in it. I think we need to sit him down with Alan and Lord Moncton or whoever and reaaly make him understand the facts.

There's a real danger that he might get in and try to do something about it. You never know, he might change his mind and try to keep the carbon tax!

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Abbott at all time LOW Reply #87 - Oct 17^th, 2011 at 9:52pm Grey wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 4:15pm: Most swinging voters don't swing on policies they swing out of boredom. If the Gillard government hangs on till the next election date they'll win. Im sure when you wrote this it made sense in your head. Bu out here on the screen, it looks beyond idiotic.
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Reply #88 - Oct 17^th, 2011 at 9:54pm

adelcrow wrote on Oct 17^th, 2011 at 5:49pm:

Tony has made it obvious that he wants Australia to go back to old way of doing things..DONT DO ANYTHING UNTIL EVERY OTHER COUNTRY HAS DONE IT!
Abbott is a follower, an opportunist and a coward..he is not and has never been a leader.

You clearly dont have much of an idea on what leadership is. it isnt about being 'first'. it is about being courageous and adventurous and it is also about being CORRECT.

Being first and being wrong isnt leadership. its just embarrassing.

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Reply #89 - Oct 17^th, 2011 at 10:00pm

Mr Abbott's approval fell 2 percentage points to 41 per cent and his disapproval rose 2 points to 54 per cent.

These are his worst ratings since becoming Opposition Leader on December 1, 2009, and are similar to numbers experienced by Mr Turnbull just before he was deposed.

The poll finds 44 per cent of voters back Mr Turnbull as Coalition leader compared with 28 per cent for Mr Abbott and 23 per cent for Mr Hockey.

http://andrewelder.blogspot.com/2011/10/sweating-blood.html

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