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Re: When Push comes to Shove leave it to the Labor Par
Reply #45 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 7:29am

cods wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 6:44am:

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November coup plotted on Julia Gillard - pressure on Kevin Rudd to push The Daily Telegraph
KEVIN Rudd is being urged by key backers within the Labor Party to challenge Julia Gillard for the leadership as early as this month.
Labor figures behind the push for the former PM to take back the job he was removed from last June have confirmed he was now being advised by his closest confidants not to wait until next year but to launch a challenge as early as the second last week of November.

Senior sources within the NSW Right claim the leakage of support away from Ms Gillard, who flew out to France last night for the G20 leaders' meeting, was snowballing.

"There are three things that are certain: there is a leadership challenge under way, Rudd doesn't have a majority yet but has enough numbers to be a contender, and they are strategising about how to get it done," said a senior NSW right-wing source.

But there was mixed support for the idea of an early move, with some MPs claiming they would "deliver the leadership" to Mr Rudd in February - if he waited.

In a sign the PM is now taking seriously the threat of a challenge, an internal counter-offensive has been launched to shore up her leadership.

The PM is reported over the past week to have lobbied key affiliated union officials with influence over caucus members to stick with her. Treasurer Wayne Swan is also believed to have privately warned several NSW Labor colleagues that he would resign if they supported a move to return Mr Rudd as leader.

The Daily Telegraph revealed two weeks ago that federal NSW Right MPs were softening in their support for Ms Gillard following the bungled Malaysia asylum seeker deal and their deepening concerns about the PM's poker machine reform deal with independent Andrew Wilkie.

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"It sent Gillard and Swan's office into a panic. Swan has told people that he would quit if we went to Rudd but I doubt he was serious. He wouldn't want to be remembered as the bloke that brought down a Labor government," a senior member of the NSW right said.

Mr Swan would not comment last night.

Parliament has only one sitting week left after this week, during which a full meeting of the Labor caucus - required for a ballot - could be held. The next opportunity would not come until February when parliament returns from the summer break.

Sources close to Mr Rudd said he was well advanced on a policy pitch to address Labor's desperate electoral problems over issues including asylum seekers, the carbon tax and problem gambling.

One senior Labor figure, a Rudd supporter, claimed business was starting to "get edgy" over the government's unresolved leadership crisis.

"Business knows it's a question of when and want it sorted," they said.

Despite Mr Rudd's commanding public popularity, a boost in support for the government if Ms Gillard was rolled was not assured. Secret Coalition research conducted recently concluded voters believed the country was drifting.

Voters believe Labor's policies were out of synch with mainstream values, targeting key policy areas including the carbon tax and asylum seeker policy. They also expressed concern at the influence of the so-called faceless men.

and shes left the country... my god shes game..

the OP is from the Daily Telegraph and 6 months ago they were calling for an early election.

all the telegraph want is to get rid of the labor government what is in it for them if the liberal get into power.

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Re: When Push comes to Shove leave it to the Labor Par
Reply #46 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 7:31am

Maqqa wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 5:11pm:

Equitist wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 1:10pm:

cods wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 1:03pm:

btw nem I see you didnt take up my offer... surprise surprise...

praising your god!!!!!

Which offer, Cods!?

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PS Cods, I don't think that you realise how many of your own posts make a direct attack on one or more other posters!?
I really think you would be happier posting here if you just chilled-out a bit and didn't try to control everyone else's behaviour.

they are only picking on you cods because collectively they can't take me on

I think its hilarious to be honest... after what we have all been called over and over by nem over the years.. and here she is telling me I am a control freak and should lighten up...what a hoot...

and then little skippy joins in.. forgetting that he would mention me at the drops of a hat...always nasty of course.

talk about pot calling kettle black..I wonder if they know what a reality check is???

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: When Push comes to Shove leave it to the Labor Par Reply #47 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 7:53am Quote: and then little skippy joins in.. forgetting that he would mention me at the drops of a hat...always nasty of course. There she goes again, I told you the old troll has a massive crush on the skipster.
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Re: When Push comes to Shove leave it to the Labor Par
Reply #48 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 7:55am

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 5:33pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 5:11pm:

Equitist wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 1:10pm:

cods wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 1:03pm:

btw nem I see you didnt take up my offer... surprise surprise...

praising your god!!!!!

Which offer, Cods!?

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PS Cods, I don't think that you realise how many of your own posts make a direct attack on one or more other posters!?
I really think you would be happier posting here if you just chilled-out a bit and didn't try to control everyone else's behaviour.

they are only picking on you cods because collectively they can't take me on

I think it has more to do with your selective and bad memory Grin

Modesty...you forgot her modesty!

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Re: When Push comes to Shove leave it to the Labor Par
Reply #49 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 8:27am

Maqqa wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 5:11pm:

Equitist wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 1:10pm:

cods wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 1:03pm:

btw nem I see you didnt take up my offer... surprise surprise...

praising your god!!!!!

Which offer, Cods!?

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PS Cods, I don't think that you realise how many of your own posts make a direct attack on one or more other posters!?
I really think you would be happier posting here if you just chilled-out a bit and didn't try to control everyone else's behaviour.

they are only picking on you cods because collectively they can't take me on

i

No one "takes you on" as the collective opinion is that you are massive JOKE - outweighed only by your EGO, IGNORANCE and sense of RELEVENCE

( ... not to mention, you're a bit of a bore)i

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Re: When Push comes to Shove leave it to the Labor Par
Reply #50 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 1:47pm

bomen_guy wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 7:29am:

cods wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 6:44am:

Sydney/NSW
November coup plotted on Julia Gillard - pressure on Kevin Rudd to push The Daily Telegraph
KEVIN Rudd is being urged by key backers within the Labor Party to challenge Julia Gillard for the leadership as early as this month.
Labor figures behind the push for the former PM to take back the job he was removed from last June have confirmed he was now being advised by his closest confidants not to wait until next year but to launch a challenge as early as the second last week of November.

Senior sources within the NSW Right claim the leakage of support away from Ms Gillard, who flew out to France last night for the G20 leaders' meeting, was snowballing.

"There are three things that are certain: there is a leadership challenge under way, Rudd doesn't have a majority yet but has enough numbers to be a contender, and they are strategising about how to get it done," said a senior NSW right-wing source.

But there was mixed support for the idea of an early move, with some MPs claiming they would "deliver the leadership" to Mr Rudd in February - if he waited.

In a sign the PM is now taking seriously the threat of a challenge, an internal counter-offensive has been launched to shore up her leadership.

The PM is reported over the past week to have lobbied key affiliated union officials with influence over caucus members to stick with her. Treasurer Wayne Swan is also believed to have privately warned several NSW Labor colleagues that he would resign if they supported a move to return Mr Rudd as leader.

The Daily Telegraph revealed two weeks ago that federal NSW Right MPs were softening in their support for Ms Gillard following the bungled Malaysia asylum seeker deal and their deepening concerns about the PM's poker machine reform deal with independent Andrew Wilkie.

Should Gillard be replaced with Rudd? Tell us below

"It sent Gillard and Swan's office into a panic. Swan has told people that he would quit if we went to Rudd but I doubt he was serious. He wouldn't want to be remembered as the bloke that brought down a Labor government," a senior member of the NSW right said.

Mr Swan would not comment last night.

Parliament has only one sitting week left after this week, during which a full meeting of the Labor caucus - required for a ballot - could be held. The next opportunity would not come until February when parliament returns from the summer break.

Sources close to Mr Rudd said he was well advanced on a policy pitch to address Labor's desperate electoral problems over issues including asylum seekers, the carbon tax and problem gambling.

One senior Labor figure, a Rudd supporter, claimed business was starting to "get edgy" over the government's unresolved leadership crisis.

"Business knows it's a question of when and want it sorted," they said.

Despite Mr Rudd's commanding public popularity, a boost in support for the government if Ms Gillard was rolled was not assured. Secret Coalition research conducted recently concluded voters believed the country was drifting.

Voters believe Labor's policies were out of synch with mainstream values, targeting key policy areas including the carbon tax and asylum seeker policy. They also expressed concern at the influence of the so-called faceless men.

and shes left the country... my god shes game..

the OP is from the Daily Telegraph and 6 months ago they were calling for an early election.

all the telegraph want is to get rid of the labor government what is in it for them if the liberal get into power.

What's in it for them? Same as everyone else, kicking out an incompetent bunch of neanderthals and having the country run by some competent people instead of the ALP and Greens.

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: When Push comes to Shove leave it to the Labor Par Reply #51 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 5:52pm cods has no credibility, ... I MEAN, RATIONALE!
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Re: When Push comes to Shove leave it to the Labor Par
Reply #52 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 7:24pm

Equitist wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 7:55am:

adelcrow wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 5:33pm:

Maqqa wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 5:11pm:

Equitist wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 1:10pm:

cods wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 1:03pm:

btw nem I see you didnt take up my offer... surprise surprise...

praising your god!!!!!

Which offer, Cods!?

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PS Cods, I don't think that you realise how many of your own posts make a direct attack on one or more other posters!?
I really think you would be happier posting here if you just chilled-out a bit and didn't try to control everyone else's behaviour.

they are only picking on you cods because collectively they can't take me on

I think it has more to do with your selective and bad memory Grin

Modesty...you forgot her modesty!

Wink

DUH!!!!!!!!!!

what are you talking about... you nem talk in a foreign language at times.. just a pinch too high and mighty but I am sure you impress yourself..you certainly have a bad case of Pot calling Kettle Black..old girl.

its can be a problem on here... but never mind you and your toll deserve each other so I wont get in the way..and let you have your little girls bitch at my expense.......ooooopppppps you didnt mention Abbott for a couple of posts.. watch it withdrawals can be nasty..and you would know!

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Re: When Push comes to Shove leave it to the Labor Par
Reply #53 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 7:28pm

cods wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 7:22am:

Equitist wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 1:10pm:

cods wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 1:03pm:

btw nem I see you didnt take up my offer... surprise surprise...

praising your god!!!!!

Which offer, Cods!?

Edited:

PS Cods, I don't think that you realise how many of your own posts make a direct attack on one or more other posters!?
I really think you would be happier posting here if you just chilled-out a bit and didn't try to control everyone else's behaviour.

this offer..

come on why are you not CHEERING this on... its what you guys all want all along..onshore processing. so lets hear it for LABOR...

they have encouraged the boats and its working...yippee

funny the moment something actually starts working...well it is why they cancelled the Pacific Solution isnt it???....

and now its working full blast and what do we get.

yeah we get SILENCE......

come on guys somethinglike this is to saviour...surely!.. you are really proud of this achievment are you not??????????????

really.. who said I am unhappy..????????????????

I usually attac someone that attacks me first... although I guess you make a point of missing that point..

how about you take some of your own advice and chill out when it comes to your abuse of any one that Liberal????? because yes you do abuse us for not seeing life through the same rose tinted specs that the left are doing...

and as for your abuse and comments regarding Abbott well words escape me.

what control are you talking about..lol.. thats pathetic.. I just say it as I see it..I dont pretend to be worldly like you do..I cant control GW anymore than I can control IMF.. or people borrowing..but I can have an opinion..at least I thought I could..I cant control who reads me..I wish I could I would love some straight answers to my questions ?????????

I see you managed to miss my offer again thanks for reminding me of it..just in case you missed it..

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Re: When Push comes to Shove leave it to the Labor Par
Reply #54 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 3:41pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 10:13am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 9:49am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 9:41am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 9:34am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 7:38am:

Swan is glued to Gillard if she gets dumped so will he.
Interesting the Tele are suggesting Labor may not get as bump in the polls by returning to Rudd, EVERY SINGLE poll taken suggests the opposite.

Rudd is the cause of many (if not all) of the problems that plague Labor in Canberra. I can't understand why they'd go back to him. It's a bit like a soccer coach removing a goal keeper who lets in 7 goals only to bring him back on for the second half. It makes no sense whatsoever to bring back Rudd.

Thats your opinion, it may well be true, but that doesn't change the fact Rudd has in every poll taken been the preferred PM over both Abbott and Gillard and Turnbull. The fact the right try to put him down so much just shows they can see the "precious" slipping from their grip if Rudd is returned.

Have you (and his other supporters) forgotten how dismally he polled in the dying stages of his Prime Ministership??? Whitlam could have polled better.

LOL those so called "dismall poll figures" were still higher than Abbotts. Grin

I know you're afraid, because this could well put the spot light back on Abbott,and so it should. Abbott is not good for this country and he does not deserve to slide into the lodge by default. You continually make the mistake of assuming I'm a Labor supporter, I'm not ,if the Libs had a decent leader I'd support them, but Abbott is not decent nor a leader, he's an attack dog reactionist who has proven to be the most effective opposition leader I have seen.I hope Labors move to dump Gillard will have a flow on effect and the Libs will dump Abbott, but if they dont I will support Rudd at the next election, as will many others who could never accept a loony like Abbott as PM.

Skip off, skippy--

I can smell a true leftie a mile away!

The point is that fatheads like you, should evaluate what is best for one's country and both Gillard and Rudd, either through stupidity or intent, are wound up to bankrupt this country.

Abbot may not be lovable to many but I'm pretty sure, he is terribly worried about where the country is sliding and will do his best to stop it sliding further.

You'd vote for Rudd even if he kicked your behind while you are filling voting forms in your booth.

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Re: When Push comes to Shove leave it to the Labor Par
Reply #55 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 3:45pm

Equitist wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 12:55pm:

cods wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 12:40pm:

... how bloody boring is that..

Ironically, Cods, your posts have become so...er...random...that I mostly skim over them...

Not that I have any delusions as to the value of my own posts...

Dear, dear - jealousy is a curse, Equitist.

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Re: When Push comes to Shove leave it to the Labor Par
Reply #56 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 3:47pm

salty wrote
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The point is that fatheads like you, should evaluate what is best for one's country

I have, and the answers not Abbott.
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many but I'm pretty sure, he is terribly worried about where the country is sliding and will do his best to stop it sliding further.

The only thing Abbott is worried about is he has failed to oust Gillard in the time span he needed to, it is all down hill for him the longer this parliament goes.

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Reply #57 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 5:03pm

The title is a little confusing, I know, but that's because you're only allowed a certain amount of characters. What my point in this thread, is, that I've heard some lefties going around and criticisng the polls for a lack of validity as some exclude the Northern Territory (despite the fact that it only makes up 1% of our population anyway), which, according to them, is anti-Coalition and pro-Labor. Well, this just doesn't hold any water whatsoever.

Need I remind you that there are 2 seats in the NT. One is held by Labor (Lingiari), the other by the Coalition (Solomon). The Coalition gained Solomon last year, and made a significant leap in Lingiari. I am very confident that that too will go to the Coalition next election.

I was in the NT a few weeks ago, and spoke to many, many people up there about this issue. The vast majority said that they will be voting for the Coalition next election, and that they are sick with, and disgusted by Labor. I also spoke to a farmer at the Carbon tax rally who flew all the way down to the ACT just to voice his protest.

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