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November coup plotted on Gillard, pressure on Rudd
Nov 3rd, 2011 at 8:02am
 
It astounds me that Labor is so desperate to reverse its fortunes that it would consider going back to the guy who is the cause of many of the problems facing the minority ALP government today. The border protection problems and the enormous debt are just two of the major problems caused by Rudd that have plagued Gillard (although she's had ample time to fix the border protection farce). I also don't believe Swan's threat to resign as to do so would mean the ALP no longer had the numbers to stay in power. This story from the Daily Telegraph...



KEVIN Rudd is being urged by key backers within the Labor Party to challenge Julia Gillard for the leadership as early as this month.

Labor figures behind the push for the former PM to take back the job he was removed from last June have confirmed he was now being advised by his closest confidants not to wait until next year but to launch a challenge as early as the second last week of November.

Senior sources within the NSW Right claim the leakage of support away from Ms Gillard, who flew out to France last night for the G20 leaders' meeting, was snowballing.

"There are three things that are certain: there is a leadership challenge under way, Rudd doesn't have a majority yet but has enough numbers to be a contender, and they are strategising about how to get it done," said a senior NSW right-wing source.

But there was mixed support for the idea of an early move, with some MPs claiming they would "deliver the leadership" to Mr Rudd in February - if he waited.

In a sign the PM is now taking seriously the threat of a challenge, an internal counter-offensive has been launched to shore up her leadership.

The PM is reported over the past week to have lobbied key affiliated union officials with influence over caucus members to stick with her. Treasurer Wayne Swan is also believed to have privately warned several NSW Labor colleagues that he would resign if they supported a move to return Mr Rudd as leader.

The Daily Telegraph revealed two weeks ago that federal NSW Right MPs were softening in their support for Ms Gillard following the bungled Malaysia asylum seeker deal and their deepening concerns about the PM's poker machine reform deal with independent Andrew Wilkie.

"It sent Gillard and Swan's office into a panic. Swan has told people that he would quit if we went to Rudd but I doubt he was serious. He wouldn't want to be remembered as the bloke that brought down a Labor government," a senior member of the NSW right said.

Mr Swan would not comment last night.

Parliament has only one sitting week left after this week, during which a full meeting of the Labor caucus - required for a ballot - could be held. The next opportunity would not come until February when parliament returns from the summer break.

Sources close to Mr Rudd said he was well advanced on a policy pitch to address Labor's desperate electoral problems over issues including asylum seekers, the carbon tax and problem gambling.

One senior Labor figure, a Rudd supporter, claimed business was starting to "get edgy" over the government's unresolved leadership crisis.

"Business knows it's a question of when and want it sorted," they said.

Despite Mr Rudd's commanding public popularity, a boost in support for the government if Ms Gillard was rolled was not assured. Secret Coalition research conducted recently concluded voters believed the country was drifting.

Voters believe Labor's policies were out of synch with mainstream values, targeting key policy areas including the carbon tax and asylum seeker policy. They also expressed concern at the influence of the so-called faceless men.
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Reply #1 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 8:10am
 
Moderators this story already exists. Why are people so stupid and lazy to check what is already posted.
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Reply #2 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 8:14am
 
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key backers within the Labor Party

What a load of crap from the paper who has already been caught out lying this week whose editor was happy to kill a few aussies to break a story.
But Abbottights can wank on all day over this.
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Re: November coup plotted on Gillard, pressure on Rudd
Reply #3 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 8:34am
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 3rd, 2011 at 8:14am:
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key backers within the Labor Party

What a load of crap from the paper who has already been caught out lying this week whose editor was happy to kill a few aussies to break a story.
But Abbottights can wank on all day over this.



OMG you are sooo desperate I thought gillard was bad enough but you are worse.
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Reply #4 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 11:44am
 


What a freaking croc this is: -

Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 3rd, 2011 at 8:02am:
One senior Labor figure, a Rudd supporter, claimed business was starting to "get edgy" over the government's unresolved leadership crisis.

"Business knows it's a question of when and want it sorted," they said.

Despite Mr Rudd's commanding public popularity, a boost in support for the government if Ms Gillard was rolled was not assured. Secret Coalition research conducted recently concluded voters believed the country was drifting.

Voters believe Labor's policies were out of synch with mainstream values, targeting key policy areas including the carbon tax and asylum seeker policy. They also expressed concern at the influence of the so-called faceless men.





I'd wager that BUSINESS LEADERS are infinitely-more concerned about the instability being caused by the LIBERAL PARTY'S TROPPOSITION LEADERSHIP than they are about the LABOR PARTY'S!

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Is this another Liberal party 'look over there' move to take away from its own slimey doings, and undoings?

Its becoming to obvious, bit like the boy who cried wolf.
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Re: November coup plotted on Gillard, pressure on Rudd
Reply #6 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 12:07pm
 
skippy. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2011 at 8:10am:
Moderators this story already exists. Why are people so stupid and lazy to check what is already posted.





... and I'll ask the SAME QUESTION




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buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 3rd, 2011 at 11:28am:
Dilemna Time ...






So who would the capitalist and Christian-Right sectors PREFER as Federal Labor leader ?



The female athiest, who would most likely be defeated at the 2013 Federal Election ?


Or the *former Prime Minister - and Christian - who internal polling shows would have a FAR greater chance of winning in 2013 ?





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( ... as well as being preffered PM over both Gillard and Abbott)
 













Bearing in MIND ...





Labor would win with Rudd as leader: poll

September 12, 2011

A new opinion poll suggests former prime minister Kevin Rudd could lead Labor to victory if a federal election was held today.

The latest Nielsen Poll published in today's Fairfax broadsheets says Labor's primary vote would jump from its current low level of 27 per cent to 42 per cent if the party brought Mr Rudd back as leader.

Labor would be ahead of the Coalition on the two-party preferred vote by four points, with a jump to 52 per cent.

But under Julia Gillard the poll shows no change for Labor since last month, with the Coalition ahead 58 per cent to 42 per cent in two-party standings




http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-12/labor-would-win-with-rudd-as-leader-poll/2...






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Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'


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Reply #7 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 12:23pm
 
Ok, I'm feeling a tiny wenney bit sorry for ArmchairlolPolitician , as he tries Sooo hard to grab onto a good topic.

So,to help out  here is a more realistic topic from a  tweet I just saw in tweetersville just a few minutes ago.



" Pollytics IQ will always be lower under Tony Abbott ''


Sadly, I agree.
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Re: November coup plotted on Gillard, pressure on Rudd
Reply #8 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 12:27pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 3rd, 2011 at 12:07pm:
skippy. wrote on Nov 3rd, 2011 at 8:10am:
Moderators this story already exists. Why are people so stupid and lazy to check what is already posted.





... and I'll ask the SAME QUESTION




http://www.pizazzbeads.com/xcart/images/dilemma.jpg





buzzanddidj wrote on Nov 3rd, 2011 at 11:28am:
Dilemna Time ...






So who would the capitalist and Christian-Right sectors PREFER as Federal Labor leader ?



The female athiest, who would most likely be defeated at the 2013 Federal Election ?


Or the *former Prime Minister - and Christian - who internal polling shows would have a FAR greater chance of winning in 2013 ?





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( ... as well as being preffered PM over both Gillard and Abbott)
 













Bearing in MIND ...





Labor would win with Rudd as leader: poll

September 12, 2011

A new opinion poll suggests former prime minister Kevin Rudd could lead Labor to victory if a federal election was held today.

The latest Nielsen Poll published in today's Fairfax broadsheets says Labor's primary vote would jump from its current low level of 27 per cent to 42 per cent if the party brought Mr Rudd back as leader.

Labor would be ahead of the Coalition on the two-party preferred vote by four points, with a jump to 52 per cent.

But under Julia Gillard the poll shows no change for Labor since last month, with the Coalition ahead 58 per cent to 42 per cent in two-party standings




http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-12/labor-would-win-with-rudd-as-leader-poll/2...









you have a thing about Christians and being right!!.. whats wrong with being a Christian and being from the right?..as we laughingly call it..what has ones religion in this day and age got  do with anything???

when do aussies plan on growing up and getting past something so peculiar and oldfashioned in their way of thinking?
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Re: November coup plotted on Gillard, pressure on Rudd
Reply #9 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 1:16pm
 
Jesus Christ wasn't rightwing. Ergo, a true Christian cannot be rightwing.
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"Julia Gillard says she is prepared to legislate a carbon price in the next term. "&&&&- The Age 20/8/10&&&&"You are not just thick - you weant to be thick. It makes you feel compssionate."&&&&- Soren
 
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Reply #10 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 1:25pm
 
Uncle wrote on Nov 3rd, 2011 at 1:16pm:
Jesus Christ wasn't rightwing. Ergo, a true Christian cannot be rightwing.


Ergo you are an idiot...
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Reply #11 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 1:52pm
 
Armchair_Politician wrote on Nov 3rd, 2011 at 1:25pm:
Uncle wrote on Nov 3rd, 2011 at 1:16pm:
Jesus Christ wasn't rightwing. Ergo, a true Christian cannot be rightwing.


Ergo you are an idiot...


Really? Remember Matthew 24:31?

31 “When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’

Verse 34 is clearly the policy of the Left in Canberra. It is the policy of The Greens amongst others. It is not the policy of the Coalition.

Now drawing a rather straight forward analogy to refugees, you can clearly see that those on his left (verse 41), ie "the goats" are blatantly Un-Christian. So much so that God sends them to hell. Yet this is the exact policy of the Coalition Party towards refugees. The Policy of the rightwing.

And I'm the idiot?  Cheesy
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Reply #12 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 2:28pm
 

yes, you're the idiot
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"Julia Gillard says she is prepared to legislate a carbon price in the next term. "&&&&- The Age 20/8/10&&&&"You are not just thick - you weant to be thick. It makes you feel compssionate."&&&&- Soren
 
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Reply #14 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 3:17pm
 
You know the prospect of an eternal damnation doesn't seem too bad; warm, plenty of fun people and you can guarantee all the ladies are naughty!
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