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Nov 3rd, 2011 at 6:52pm
 
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The activist group GetUp! and the Australian Greens are demanding Liberal senator Ian Macdonald withdraw comments linking them to the youth league of Nazi Germany.

Senator Macdonald, during a furious debate in parliament's upper house on Thursday, referred to GetUp! as the Hitler youth wing of the Greens political movement.

He stood by his remark when challenged by Greens deputy leader Christine Milne, and Senate deputy president Stephen Parry refused to rule the comment out of order.

Senator Milne said later the coalition's dirty politics had hit a new low.

"This is an extraordinary abuse of the memories of the countless millions slaughtered by the Nazis and an abhorrent offence to Holocaust survivors and their families," she said.

The Greens will refer both Liberal senators to the upper house privileges committee.

"I have written to the president of the Senate this morning asking him to examine Senator Parry's refusal to rule the slur out of order and pull Senator Macdonald into line with common decency," Senator Milne said.

The Greens also want Liberal leader Tony Abbott to insist his senator withdraw the remark.

GetUp! accused Senator Macdonald of cowardly hiding behind the veil of parliamentary privilege.

Likening the lobby group to Hitler's youth wing was a comparison that carried with it "a weight of hatred and ignorance", the group's national director Simon Sheikh said.

"Parliamentarians and indeed all Australians should condemn the statement as both offensive and a wasteful distraction to the Senate's important work," he said.

GetUp! is making a formal complaint to the Senate privileges committee and has called on the senator to apologise.
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Reply #1 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 6:55pm
 
While I do not necessarily support what Macdonald had said - but Milne is absolutely a moron

So everytime we mentioned the word "NAZI" we are automatically demonised as "abusing the countless millions slaughtered"

We can't talk about the Aboriginees

We can't talk about the Muslims

We can't talk about the illegals

Milne is a disgrace

The Greens are a disgrace
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Reply #2 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 6:56pm
 
Sounds like the sort of comment most politicians would want to distance themselves from.
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Reply #3 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 6:58pm
 
The truth hurts
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So everytime we mentioned the word "NAZI" we are automatically demonised as "abusing the countless millions slaughtered"


Maqqa if you are going to use quotes you should try actually quoting people. It's as if you like playing chinese whispers. Most arguments with you seem to revolve around correcting your misrepresentations of what other people said.
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Reply #5 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 7:06pm
 
"Pedant"*

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Reply #6 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 7:07pm
 
I reckon Maqqa cares more than the Greens or Getup about a nobody from the opposition seeking publicity for himself by invoking one of the darkest times in modern human history.
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Reply #7 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 7:09pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 3rd, 2011 at 7:04pm:
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So everytime we mentioned the word "NAZI" we are automatically demonised as "abusing the countless millions slaughtered"


Maqqa if you are going to use quotes you should try actually quoting people. It's as if you like playing chinese whispers. Most arguments with you seem to revolve around correcting your misrepresentations of what other people said.



Maqqa isnt big on all the facts or even getting it half right..never has been and I guess he never will
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Reply #8 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 7:10pm
 
adelcrow wrote on Nov 3rd, 2011 at 7:07pm:
I reckon Maqqa cares more than the Greens or Getup about a nobody from the opposition seeking publicity for himself by invoking one of the darkest times in modern human history.


Yes, the Labor/Greens alliance is one of the darkest times in modern human history
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freediver wrote on Nov 3rd, 2011 at 7:04pm:
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So everytime we mentioned the word "NAZI" we are automatically demonised as "abusing the countless millions slaughtered"


Maqqa if you are going to use quotes you should try actually quoting people. It's as if you like playing chinese whispers. Most arguments with you seem to revolve around correcting your misrepresentations of what other people said.



Read the comment I highlighted

then read the context to which Macdonald had used the the word Nazi

it was Milne who brought in the comment "abuse of the memories of the countless millions slaughtered by the Nazis"
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Reply #10 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 7:15pm
 
Were all the Hitler Youth Movement members "NAZIS"?
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Reply #11 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 7:17pm
 
It wasn't the hitler youth that did the killing, they were closer to boy scouts than death squads.  If we can get past the nazi=outrage conditioned response, we can see that both getup and the hitler youth are orgnisations acting as vessels for political indoctrination.  In that sense, the analogy is apt, but of course in this day and age, being politically correct is more important than being accurate.
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Reply #12 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 7:20pm
 
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In that sense, the analogy is apt

Exactly.

Its a shame my tax dollars go to scum like getuppity
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Reply #13 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 7:25pm
 
... wrote on Nov 3rd, 2011 at 7:17pm:
It wasn't the hitler youth that did the killing, they were closer to boy scouts than death squads.  If we can get past the nazi=outrage conditioned response, we can see that both getup and the hitler youth are orgnisations acting as vessels for political indoctrination.  In that sense, the analogy is apt, but of course in this day and age, being politically correct is more important than being accurate.



Hitler's Youth League was the breeding ground by which Hitler started the indoctrinating of the NAZI's next generation

Macdonald was referring to GetUp being the breeding ground for indoctrination of the Greens' next generation
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Reply #14 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 7:39pm
 
Maqqa wrote on Nov 3rd, 2011 at 7:11pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 3rd, 2011 at 7:04pm:
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So everytime we mentioned the word "NAZI" we are automatically demonised as "abusing the countless millions slaughtered"


Maqqa if you are going to use quotes you should try actually quoting people. It's as if you like playing chinese whispers. Most arguments with you seem to revolve around correcting your misrepresentations of what other people said.



Read the comment I highlighted

then read the context to which Macdonald had used the the word Nazi

it was Milne who brought in the comment "abuse of the memories of the countless millions slaughtered by the Nazis"


See Maqqa, I knew you could do it!
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