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nairbe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2587 Rural NSW Gender:	Re: 19/20 pieces of Birthday cake given to one child Reply #15 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 6:58am Soren wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 9:26pm: They'll bake you 20 whole cakes in China for the price of that single slice. But if i decorate them can i charge more for mine.
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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: 19/20 pieces of Birthday cake given to one child Reply #16 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 7:19am I like a bit of cake, now and again.
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: 19/20 pieces of Birthday cake given to one child Reply #17 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 8:03am Quote: I like a bit of cake, now and again. as long as you dont have to pay for it!
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Reply #18 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 8:59am

qikvtec wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 9:15pm:

Kat wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 9:05pm:

qikvtec wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 8:50pm:

If it's my cake I'll share it with whomever I please.

That's fine, as long as you aren't stealing or extorting mine while you're at it.

Would you sell it for $8?

This is totally unfair, we should float the cake on the share market so that everybody gets a chance to buy a share.

Then, when the sharemarket crashes, we should grab the cake anyway and eat it.

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Reply #19 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 9:28am

Clearly, the finite size of the resource pie is crucial to this discussion - at all levels (i.e., family, community, society, state, nation and globe) - and growing the pie with an artificial monetary tool doesn't count when it comes to real world sustainability.

For those who didn't get the gist (or chose to ignore it), I'll reiterate one of my central questions:-

At what point does a parent teach their child, that the morals of sharing, caring, co-operation and fairness no longer apply to them - and that the 5% are entitled to covet and control 95% of the metaphorical cake at any and all costs!?

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Reply #20 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 10:39am

Equitist wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 9:28am:

Clearly, the finite size of the resource pie is crucial to this discussion - at all levels (i.e., family, community, society, state, nation and globe) - and growing the pie with an artificial monetary tool doesn't count when it comes to real world sustainability.

For those who didn't get the gist (or chose to ignore it), I'll reiterate one of my central questions:-

At what point does a parent teach their child, that the morals of sharing, caring, co-operation and fairness no longer apply to them - and that the 5% are entitled to covet and control 95% of the metaphorical cake at any and all costs!?

You are free to go into the wilderness and dig for 'cake'.

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Reply #21 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 10:43am

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 10:39am:

Equitist wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 9:28am:

Clearly, the finite size of the resource pie is crucial to this discussion - at all levels (i.e., family, community, society, state, nation and globe) - and growing the pie with an artificial monetary tool doesn't count when it comes to real world sustainability.

For those who didn't get the gist (or chose to ignore it), I'll reiterate one of my central questions:-

At what point does a parent teach their child, that the morals of sharing, caring, co-operation and fairness no longer apply to them - and that the 5% are entitled to covet and control 95% of the metaphorical cake at any and all costs!?

You are free to go into the wilderness and dig for 'cake'.

God will provide to the righteous. (manna)

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Reply #22 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 10:46am

Equitist wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 9:28am:

For those who didn't get the gist (or chose to ignore it), I'll reiterate one of my central questions:-

At what point does a parent teach their child, that the morals of sharing, caring, co-operation and fairness no longer apply to them - and that the 5% are entitled to covet and control 95% of the metaphorical cake at any and all costs!?

So are you looking for a household income trigger there, so that they can say, we are now officially members of the haves/have nots?

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Reply #23 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 10:59am

LOL...obviously, the thread was intended to provide a metaphor for human groups of various sizes...

That said, given some of the comments to date, I'd like to be a fly on the wall in certain households, come any instance that demands a semblance of sharing and co-operation amongst children...

I truly wonder how certain people teach their kids (and grandkids) about their place in the world - cos there has to come a time when they give their kids a licence to dispense with the whole sharing thing...

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Reply #24 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 11:14am

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At what point does a parent teach their child, that the morals of sharing, caring, co-operation and fairness no longer apply to them - and that the 5% are entitled to covet and control 95% of the metaphorical cake at any and all costs!?

Why would you burden your child with your unresolveable ideological demons?

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: 19/20 pieces of Birthday cake given to one child Reply #25 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 11:16am You're right Wesley. Let's not burden them with numeracy or literacy skills either.
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Reply #26 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 11:19am

Equitist wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 10:59am:

LOL...obviously, the thread was intended to provide a metaphor for human groups of various sizes...

That said, given some of the comments to date, I'd like to be a fly on the wall in certain households, come any instance that demands a semblance of sharing and co-operation amongst children...

I truly wonder how certain people teach their kids (and grandkids) about their place in the world - cos there has to come a time when they give their kids a licence to dispense with the whole sharing thing...

Unless I develop a sudden need for additional organs, the little pitter patter of feet in my house won't be the result of a combination of mine and my wife's genetics.

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Politicians and Nappies need to be changed often and for the same reason.

One trouble with political jokes is that they often get elected.

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Reply #27 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 11:54am

qikvtec wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 11:19am:

Equitist wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 10:59am:

LOL...obviously, the thread was intended to provide a metaphor for human groups of various sizes...

That said, given some of the comments to date, I'd like to be a fly on the wall in certain households, come any instance that demands a semblance of sharing and co-operation amongst children...

I truly wonder how certain people teach their kids (and grandkids) about their place in the world - cos there has to come a time when they give their kids a licence to dispense with the whole sharing thing...

Unless I develop a sudden need for additional organs, the little pitter patter of feet in my house won't be the result of a combination of mine and my wife's genetics.

That's an 'interesting' take on the subject, Qiky - but I am curious to understand the thinking of someone who volunteers for a Darwin Award, albeit by default!?

Actually, I am fascinated that humanity has reached the point where the trend is that about 1/3 of all Westerners will never (knowingly) reproduce...

It is no coincidence, that Westerners have become the most 'prosperous' people on the planet (on average) - and that we are also relatively-long-lived and the least likely to breed...

It is also ironic, that Westerners have opted to import people from other countries (often from vastly different cultural backgrounds) to provide labour and services - amongst other things...

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Reply #28 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 12:00pm

Equitist wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 10:59am:

LOL...obviously, the thread was intended to provide a metaphor for human groups of various sizes...

That said, given some of the comments to date, I'd like to be a fly on the wall in certain households, come any instance that demands a semblance of sharing and co-operation amongst children...

I truly wonder how certain people teach their kids (and grandkids) about their place in the world - cos there has to come a time when they give their kids a licence to dispense with the whole sharing thing...

your problem is that you want to 'share' other peoples belongings. your definition of 'sharing' doesnt seem to involve sharing the effort or the risk - just the reward. your kids must be learning how to expect others to provide for them and the complain about it at the same time.

great lessons there nem...

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Reply #29 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 1:03pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 12:00pm:

Equitist wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 10:59am:

LOL...obviously, the thread was intended to provide a metaphor for human groups of various sizes...

That said, given some of the comments to date, I'd like to be a fly on the wall in certain households, come any instance that demands a semblance of sharing and co-operation amongst children...

I truly wonder how certain people teach their kids (and grandkids) about their place in the world - cos there has to come a time when they give their kids a licence to dispense with the whole sharing thing...

your problem is that you want to 'share' other peoples belongings. your definition of 'sharing' doesnt seem to involve sharing the effort or the risk - just the reward. your kids must be learning how to expect others to provide for them and the complain about it at the same time.

great lessons there nem...

Hey it's worked out famously for the Greeks has it not?

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Politicians and Nappies need to be changed often and for the same reason.

One trouble with political jokes is that they often get elected.

Alan Joyce for PM

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