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Should we be bailing out the lazy Greeks ??
Nov 4^th, 2011 at 11:30am

I don't see why we should spend one cent on a country full of bludgers and tax avoiders when we are forced to pay so much tax ourselves !!

If the Greeks want to be conniving and cunning about how they run their country then don't expect everyone else to bail them out when the sh.t hits the fan !!

Gillard wants to blow 16 billion on the Greeks whilst keep telling us that our economy is the envy of the world and how we survived the GFC. If that's the case then no need to spend a cent is there ? It's amazing how the Government can come up with plenty of money for rubbish when it wants to !!

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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: Should we be bailing out the lazy Greeks ?? Reply #1 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 11:40am If only these problems were unique to Greece, eh!? Only a fool would still think that countries across the whole globe are not being screwed-over by the 'trickle-down' myth of feeding the 'Growth Fairy', by lowering taxes and regulations on the parasitic activities of the elite few...
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Reply #3 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 11:51am

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 11:47am:

How is Switzerland screwed over? Singapore?

or norway or australia. proper economies CAN ne run but unfortunately most of the countries are run by fools and filled with lazy bludgers.

Greece most certinaly does not deserve to be bailed out. unfortunately letting them go solvent is worse for everyone. but it is certainly time for them to pay for their sins.

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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: Should we be bailing out the lazy Greeks ?? Reply #4 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 11:58am Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 11:47am: How is Switzerland screwed over? Singapore? Dunno about the tax and transfer system in Singapore - but Switzerland seems to be providing a better model for the future... Meantime, thanks for cherry-picking...
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Reply #5 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 12:11pm

Equitist wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 11:58am:

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 11:47am:

How is Switzerland screwed over? Singapore?

Dunno about the tax and transfer system in Singapore - but Switzerland seems to be providing a better model for the future...

Meantime, thanks for cherry-picking...

it is so easy to debunk your ridiciulous theories. u do know that a single example that breaches the theoriy is enough to debunk it?? or is that yet another mathematical principle you didnt learn in high school?

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Reply #6 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 12:12pm

Mother, Switzerland and SIngapore and Norway and AUstralia each disprove your mindless, sweeping nonsense about global greed. Countries that earn more than they spend are doing well. Countries that spend more than they earn are not doing well.

This would be the same under any economic system. ANd you know - this is truly astonishing but true - it even works with individuals!! How about that??

Aren't you glad you came by here today? You have learnt something new in your dotage. You can even teach it to your kids as you slice that cake.

Almost as easy as playing the flute: blow in one end, move your fingers up and down the holes - and that's it!!!

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40774 Gender:	Re: Should we be bailing out the lazy Greeks ?? Reply #7 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 12:17pm soren Quote: .........Countries that earn more than they spend are doing well. Countries that spend more than they earn are not doing well. This would be the same under any economic system. ANd you know - this is truly astonishing but true - it even works with individuals!! .... yes yes and yes.
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Reply #8 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 12:18pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 11:30am:

I don't see why we should spend one cent on a country full of bludgers and tax avoiders when we are forced to pay so much tax ourselves !!

If the Greeks want to be conniving and cunning about how they run their country then don't expect everyone else to bail them out when the sh.t hits the fan !!

Gillard wants to blow 16 billion on the Greeks whilst keep telling us that our economy is the envy of the world and how we survived the GFC. If that's the case then no need to spend a cent is there ? It's amazing how the Government can come up with plenty of money for rubbish when it wants to !!

Good thread Nail,
Give the lazy Greeks nothing.
Let them go bankrupt.

They are one of the poorest countries in Europe & yet they
had a pension scheme to give public servants 70% of their previous wage
when they retired at 50 ( or was it 55. ?)
There were more public servants than ordinary workers.
What a bunch of lazy losers.

They expected Germans & others to work till they were 65 or 70 to pay
for their lifestyles when they produce nothing but olives & feta cheese.

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Reply #9 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 8:21pm

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 12:12pm:

Mother, Switzerland and SIngapore and Norway and AUstralia each disprove your mindless, sweeping nonsense about global greed. Countries that earn more than they spend are doing well. Countries that spend more than they earn are not doing well.

This would be the same under any economic system. ANd you know - this is truly astonishing but true - it even works with individuals!! How about that??

Aren't you glad you came by here today? You have learnt something new in your dotage. You can even teach it to your kids as you slice that cake.

Almost as easy as playing the flute: blow in one end, move your fingers up and down the holes - and that's it!!!

On the whole all well and true, particularly for a very lazy Europe on the whole. Only one problem i see, the US has well over spent for many years and that money has been on military. Now my opinion is no secret, i think they are bullies. But i am able to also recognise that even though they stuff up regularly if it were not for the military dominance they have held since WW2 the west would not have prospered as it has. So the question is should we all contribute to the maintenance of this control to maintain our economic system and dominance?

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Reply #10 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 8:54pm

nairbe wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 8:21pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 12:12pm:

Mother, Switzerland and SIngapore and Norway and AUstralia each disprove your mindless, sweeping nonsense about global greed. Countries that earn more than they spend are doing well. Countries that spend more than they earn are not doing well.

This would be the same under any economic system. ANd you know - this is truly astonishing but true - it even works with individuals!! How about that??

Aren't you glad you came by here today? You have learnt something new in your dotage. You can even teach it to your kids as you slice that cake.

Almost as easy as playing the flute: blow in one end, move your fingers up and down the holes - and that's it!!!

On the whole all well and true, particularly for a very lazy Europe on the whole. Only one problem i see, the US has well over spent for many years and that money has been on military. Now my opinion is no secret, i think they are bullies. But i am able to also recognise that even though they stuff up regularly if it were not for the military dominance they have held since WW2 the west would not have prospered as it has. So the question is should we all contribute to the maintenance of this control to maintain our economic system and dominance?

Shale gas will propel the US back to the economic power house it once was, true there are some structural problems, a mountain of debt and outrageous government expenditure, but once confidence is restored and their housing market finds a bottom, people will start spending and their economy will soar.

The OPEC nations are very rapidly developing renewable energy sectors and are sh!t scared of the prospect of a viable alternative to break their cartel.

Greece will effectively be locked out of capital markets for the next couple of decades, the BRIC's might come to the party and help them out but they have some bitter medicine to swallow.

I'd be surprised if Greece saw a cent of the money being promised by wealthier nations; all action will be on comfortably managing the capital crevice created by another round of ridiculous risky loans. Ireland will be off the IMF teat by 2013, Spain & Portugal will be given time to get their house in order, Italy's revival is underway but will take time to work through.

Greek corruption and tax evasion will need to be stamped out for them ever having a hope of coming back to the playground anytime soon.

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Reply #11 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 9:20pm

nairbe wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 8:21pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 12:12pm:

Mother, Switzerland and SIngapore and Norway and AUstralia each disprove your mindless, sweeping nonsense about global greed. Countries that earn more than they spend are doing well. Countries that spend more than they earn are not doing well.

This would be the same under any economic system. ANd you know - this is truly astonishing but true - it even works with individuals!! How about that??

Aren't you glad you came by here today? You have learnt something new in your dotage. You can even teach it to your kids as you slice that cake.

Almost as easy as playing the flute: blow in one end, move your fingers up and down the holes - and that's it!!!

On the whole all well and true, particularly for a very lazy Europe on the whole. Only one problem i see, the US has well over spent for many years and that money has been on military. Now my opinion is no secret, i think they are bullies. But i am able to also recognise that even though they stuff up regularly if it were not for the military dominance they have held since WW2 the west would not have prospered as it has. So the question is should we all contribute to the maintenance of this control to maintain our economic system and dominance?

The US is in the sh!t because it is spending like it's a European country and NOT beause of of its military spending.

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Reply #12 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 2:38pm

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The US is in the sh!t because it is spending like it's a European country and NOT beause of of its military spending.

Obama said " Yes we can "

What did he mean?
Well I think he meant that we can borrow money & have a nice big party
& worry about paying it back later.

The Greeks have done the same thing -
living way beyond their means for the last 10 years or more.
They don't have a good enough economy to ever pay the money back.
The Greeks have truly gone down hill.
Once they had a great civilisation but now they can't even add up their sums.

Also - Europe is at fault:
Any fool could have seen that they shouldn't have been lent all that money.
It's the same as lending $10 million to someone on sickness benefits.

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Reply #13 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 3:08pm

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 9:20pm:

nairbe wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 8:21pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 12:12pm:

Mother, Switzerland and SIngapore and Norway and AUstralia each disprove your mindless, sweeping nonsense about global greed. Countries that earn more than they spend are doing well. Countries that spend more than they earn are not doing well.

This would be the same under any economic system. ANd you know - this is truly astonishing but true - it even works with individuals!! How about that??

Aren't you glad you came by here today? You have learnt something new in your dotage. You can even teach it to your kids as you slice that cake.

Almost as easy as playing the flute: blow in one end, move your fingers up and down the holes - and that's it!!!

On the whole all well and true, particularly for a very lazy Europe on the whole. Only one problem i see, the US has well over spent for many years and that money has been on military. Now my opinion is no secret, i think they are bullies. But i am able to also recognise that even though they stuff up regularly if it were not for the military dominance they have held since WW2 the west would not have prospered as it has. So the question is should we all contribute to the maintenance of this control to maintain our economic system and dominance?

The US is in the sh!t because it is spending like it's a European country and NOT beause of of its military spending.

The USa spent $685.1 billion in 09/10 year, now how is it you can say they don't over spend on the military. There are other problems of course but my point was more that we have all prospered for the military spending of the US. If they were to dramatically lower that amount we could be int rouble with another country taking the dominant place in the region. This may well happen anyway, but should we take some financial burden for this to help maintain the US dominance.

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Uncle Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 688	Re: Should we be bailing out the lazy Greeks ?? Reply #14 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 6:57pm The Greeks should ditch the Euro and go back to the Drachma.
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