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How to turn Science into a Religion.
Nov 5^th, 2011 at 1:27pm

Just for fun and without loosing any of the integrity inherent in Science, and because why it is not a Religion has been done to death, we might look at how real Religion, as aposed to Cults, are created and how we might embue a little of that Religion into Science!

Read that twice and then tell me; Are you Interested?

Ok then. How shall we begin?

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: How to turn Science into a Religion. Reply #1 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 1:40pm Science is great, Science is great, There is no science but science, Einstein is its prophet. Come to study, Come to learn, Science is great, There is no science but science It's a start, at least...
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Belgarion Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5483 Gender:	Re: How to turn Science into a Religion. Reply #2 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 1:59pm I thought the global warmists had done this already?
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Re: How to turn Science into a Religion.
Reply #3 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 2:04pm

Our science which art of mind,
Hallowed be thy name,
From big bang come,
No 'Will' be done,
On earth as it is in all parts of the cosmos.

Give us this sapience,
Our mental bread,
And forgive us our 'gods'
As we forgive those who trespass against thee
And lead us not unto mysticism
But deliver us from New Age.

Amen.

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: How to turn Science into a Religion. Reply #4 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 5:32pm I guess those posts indicate the absurdity of the OP. Sappho, what of religions' founding or defining mantras? They all have them... What would be science's?
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Sappho Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 1406 Gender:	Re: How to turn Science into a Religion. Reply #5 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 5:36pm Science, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the peoples of Earth. Their mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before.
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Re: How to turn Science into a Religion.
Reply #6 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 5:41pm

Sappho wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 5:36pm:

Science, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the peoples of Earth. Their mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before.

Ah yes... That one.

Made great by its fame in the English speaking world for being the most well known statement containing a split infinitive Grin

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Re: How to turn Science into a Religion.
Reply #7 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 5:54pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 5:41pm:

Sappho wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 5:36pm:

Science, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the peoples of Earth. Their mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before.

Ah yes... That one.

Made great by its fame in the English speaking world for being the most well known statement containing a split infinitive Grin

"In those days men were real men, women were real women, small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri. And all dared to brave unknown terrors, to do mighty deeds, to boldly split infinitives that no man had split before - and thus was the Empire forged."

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Re: How to turn Science into a Religion.
Reply #8 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 6:14pm

Sappho wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 5:54pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 5:41pm:

Sappho wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 5:36pm:

Science, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the peoples of Earth. Their mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before.

Ah yes... That one.

Made great by its fame in the English speaking world for being the most well known statement containing a split infinitive Grin

"In those days men were real men, women were real women, small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri. And all dared to brave unknown terrors, to do mighty deeds, to boldly split infinitives that no man had split before - and thus was the Empire forged."

We should quickly call George Lucas. I thoroughly believe, this gratuitous splitting of infinitives could easily be rapidly going some way towards comedically lightening the load of dense science fiction dialogue.

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Re: How to turn Science into a Religion.
Reply #9 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 11:21pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 6:14pm:

Sappho wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 5:54pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 5:41pm:

Sappho wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 5:36pm:

Science, the final frontier. These are the voyages of the peoples of Earth. Their mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before.

Ah yes... That one.

Made great by its fame in the English speaking world for being the most well known statement containing a split infinitive Grin

"In those days men were real men, women were real women, small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri. And all dared to brave unknown terrors, to do mighty deeds, to boldly split infinitives that no man had split before - and thus was the Empire forged."

We should quickly call George Lucas. I thoroughly believe, this gratuitous splitting of infinitives could easily be rapidly going some way towards comedically lightening the load of dense science fiction dialogue.

Why????? It's nothing to do with him.....Douglas Adams wrote that line...

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Re: How to turn Science into a Religion.
Reply #10 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 11:22pm

Sappho wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 1:27pm:

Just for fun and without loosing any of the integrity inherent in Science, and because why it is not a Religion has been done to death, we might look at how real Religion, as aposed to Cults, are created and how we might embue a little of that Religion into Science!

Read that twice and then tell me; Are you Interested?

Ok then. How shall we begin?

At the risk of being called names.....How do you define the differences between 'real' religion and a cult???

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Re: How to turn Science into a Religion.
Reply #11 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 11:40pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 11:22pm:

Sappho wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 1:27pm:

Just for fun and without loosing any of the integrity inherent in Science, and because why it is not a Religion has been done to death, we might look at how real Religion, as aposed to Cults, are created and how we might embue a little of that Religion into Science!

Read that twice and then tell me; Are you Interested?

Ok then. How shall we begin?

At the risk of being called names.....How do you define the differences between 'real' religion and a cult???

I'm not interested in childish name calling on the Ozpol forum... never have been... never will be.

Otherwise, I just did a quick google and found this site which has a very sound layman's summary of the differences between cults and religions.

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Re: How to turn Science into a Religion.
Reply #12 - Nov 6^th, 2011 at 9:08am

Sappho wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 11:40pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 11:22pm:

Sappho wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 1:27pm:

Just for fun and without loosing any of the integrity inherent in Science, and because why it is not a Religion has been done to death, we might look at how real Religion, as aposed to Cults, are created and how we might embue a little of that Religion into Science!

Read that twice and then tell me; Are you Interested?

Ok then. How shall we begin?

At the risk of being called names.....How do you define the differences between 'real' religion and a cult???

I'm not interested in childish name calling on the Ozpol forum... never have been... never will be.

Otherwise, I just did a quick google and found this site which has a very sound layman's summary of the differences between cults and religions.

Interesting....but that's still basically 'opinion'.....As far as I can see, the difference seems to be PR, mainstream religions have a better image, mostly due to longevity and numbers of membership...

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: How to turn Science into a Religion.
Reply #13 - Nov 6^th, 2011 at 9:34am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 6^th, 2011 at 9:08am:

Sappho wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 11:40pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 11:22pm:

Sappho wrote on Nov 5^th, 2011 at 1:27pm:

Just for fun and without loosing any of the integrity inherent in Science, and because why it is not a Religion has been done to death, we might look at how real Religion, as aposed to Cults, are created and how we might embue a little of that Religion into Science!

Read that twice and then tell me; Are you Interested?

Ok then. How shall we begin?

At the risk of being called names.....How do you define the differences between 'real' religion and a cult???

I'm not interested in childish name calling on the Ozpol forum... never have been... never will be.

Otherwise, I just did a quick google and found this site which has a very sound layman's summary of the differences between cults and religions.

Interesting....but that's still basically 'opinion'.....As far as I can see, the difference seems to be PR, mainstream religions have a better image, mostly due to longevity and numbers of membership...

And if you take into account the sectarian animosity among Catholics and Protestants and those between faiths (including Christianity and Islam, Hinduism and Islam), most of what now apparently defines a cult was policy within established churches.

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: How to turn Science into a Religion. Reply #14 - Nov 6^th, 2011 at 9:56am Cults don’t necessarily destroy the family unit and religion doesn’t always promote it.
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