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... Gold Member Offline Posts: 23673 WA Gender:	Re: Muslim girls imported to marry old men Reply #15 - Nov 7^th, 2011 at 5:51pm Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 5:47pm: I'd rather a girl be married at 17 and pursue her dreams than become a single mum. So long as her dreams consist of fetching her man his pipe and slippers when he returns from a hard days graft.
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Reply #16 - Nov 7^th, 2011 at 5:51pm

Hundreds of teens flown in to marry older Australians

This is the original heading from the Herald Sun report. Some bright spark has changed it to suit their agenda/blog

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/visa-alarm-over-imported-teen-brides/...

Most are from the Middle East or South-East Asia.

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: Muslim girls imported to marry old men Reply #17 - Nov 7^th, 2011 at 6:04pm ... wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 5:51pm: Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 5:47pm: I'd rather a girl be married at 17 and pursue her dreams than become a single mum. So long as her dreams consist of fetching her man his pipe and slippers when he returns from a hard days graft. Now who's dreaming?
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Re: Muslim girls imported to marry old men
Reply #18 - Nov 7^th, 2011 at 6:05pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 5:51pm:

Hundreds of teens flown in to marry older Australians

This is the original heading from the Herald Sun report. Some bright spark has changed it to suit their agenda/blog

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/visa-alarm-over-imported-teen-brides/...

Most are from the Middle East or South-East Asia.

Come now, Pansi. We can't let facts get in the way of our Islamophobia now, can we?

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Reply #19 - Nov 7^th, 2011 at 8:06pm

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Anybody who wants to marry with an age gap of greater than two years should be scrutinized? I think that might be the most alarming statement in the report.

That was not the claim. It refers specifically to young people. This reflects current law.

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The girl that was lured into an unsavoury relationship, with the conivance of her parents apparently, is really in need of protection and from the sounds of it she got it.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to protect children before they get into these situations? Or do you think the children that step forward represent all the abusive relationships resulting from marriages arranged from overseas?

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I'd rather a girl be married at 17 and pursue her dreams than become a single mum.

So you see marriage to an older man as a valid way for parents to prevent their child falling victim to their own lack of self control?

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Reply #20 - Nov 7^th, 2011 at 8:11pm

http://m.news.com.au/VIC/pg/2/fi909031.htm;jsessionid=25DDFD6BF0EE61621BD2513638C947DC

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An Immigration Department spokesman defended the visa program: "Applicants ... must meet a range of criteria ... including being able to demonstrate they are in a genuine ... relationship with their sponsoring partner."

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Reply #21 - Nov 7^th, 2011 at 9:40pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 4:36pm:

Where's the ABC reference to the 10yr old?

You won't find it. You know why? Cos it's bullshit.

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 4:44pm:

I told you it was bullshit. lol

You are the only one who ever mentioned a 10 year old.
Because you misread the year 10 reference. Because you want to nurture your raging resentment.

What hope for these girls with 'feminist' like you on their side?

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Muslim girls imported to marry old men Reply #22 - Nov 7^th, 2011 at 9:44pm Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 5:47pm: I'd rather a girl be married at 17 and pursue her dreams than become a single mum. When you were 17, were you dreaming of men in their 40s and 50s from another country as the fathers of your children?
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Re: Muslim girls imported to marry old men
Reply #23 - Nov 7^th, 2011 at 9:51pm

Soren wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 9:44pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 5:47pm:

I'd rather a girl be married at 17 and pursue her dreams than become a single mum.

When you were 17, were you dreaming of men in their 40s and 50s from another country as the fathers of your children?

Oh, honey, I'm dreaming of it now. How old are you?

My biological clack is sticking away.

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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: Muslim girls imported to marry old men Reply #25 - Nov 7^th, 2011 at 10:15pm What I wanna know, is how many of these young brides are being trafficked into inter-racial marriages - i.e. mail order Asian brides for white anglo men... I also wanna know why the emphasis on 'Muslim' girls - given that many Asians aren't Muslims...
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Reply #26 - Nov 7^th, 2011 at 10:16pm

freediver wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 8:06pm:

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Anybody who wants to marry with an age gap of greater than two years should be scrutinized? I think that might be the most alarming statement in the report.

That was not the claim. It refers specifically to young people. This reflects current law.

It's the law that 17 year olds wanting to marry 20 year olds are scrutinized? By who?

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The girl that was lured into an unsavoury relationship, with the conivance of her parents apparently, is really in need of protection and from the sounds of it she got it.

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Wouldn't it be a good idea to protect children before they get into these situations? Or do you think the children that step forward represent all the abusive relationships resulting from marriages arranged from overseas?

Of course it would be a good idea to prevent anybody from marrying into an abusive situation; the question is how?

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Reply #27 - Nov 7^th, 2011 at 10:21pm

toots wrote on Nov 7^th, 2011 at 5:46pm:

I think the spouse visa program should be scrapped. These young girls need protecting from their families, so we must intervene on their behalf. It's not okay to marry your daughter off to an old man, it's disgusting and it has to stop.

You want to scrap visas for the overseas fiances of Australian men to join them? I don't like your chances.

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toots Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 146	Re: Muslim girls imported to marry old men Reply #28 - Nov 8^th, 2011 at 7:44am It shouldn't be too hard to fix, they have to decide what is an acceptable age difference and alarm bells will then ring if the gap is obviously too great.
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Reply #29 - Nov 8^th, 2011 at 12:10pm

toots wrote on Nov 8^th, 2011 at 7:44am:

It shouldn't be too hard to fix, they have to decide what is an acceptable age difference and alarm bells will then ring if the gap is obviously too great.

You're making a link between 'age difference' and abuse. Outside of the extremes of paedophilia that isn't the case. May I remind you for instance that there's nearly a forty year age gap between Rupert Murdoch and his Asian wife and from all accounts that's working for them.

I'm not entirely out of sympathy with what you're saying, but it's a very difficult area to legislate about. Different things are attractive to different people. That ones rich, that ones beautiful, that ones brilliant, that ones famous, there's even people who are attracted by missing limbs and some young people find age attractive. I don't think we can be judgemental about that. Of course we can be judgemental about coercion, but we have laws in place to deal with that.

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