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Reply #165 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 6:21pm

Gist wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 5:58pm:

I summed up that rambling piece of intellectually hollow self-deceit for you Wesley. The statements are equivalent. And yes, I understand you don't limit yourself just to black people. But it takes time to list all the asians, blacks, jews, etc, etc.

Think of it as a short cut.

So you're one of the rabid anti-racists eh?

From the 'rambling piece of intellectually hollow self-deceit' (which was less than 3 paragraphs long. You do have a short attention span don't you?)

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But the tendency of the anti-racist is to ignore all shades of grey.

...it's like a prophesy...either that or empty-headed automatons like you are a dime a dozen.

*puts gist on the list of people to not bother with in future*

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Reply #166 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 6:26pm

it is true that this thread reveals more about the peopel posting that the actual topic (which is patently false).

All lastnail threads being with an obvious falsehood and go on from there. the vast majority of posts are the 'i hate church' type and move on from there. actual facts and thin on the ground.

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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !! Reply #167 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 6:40pm ... wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 6:21pm: puts gist on the list of people to not bother with in future Why thank you, Wesley! That's a true compliment from you.
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Reply #168 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 6:44pm

Soren wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 5:43pm:

Most of the unchurched/irreligious/unsympathetic posters on this thread reveal rather a lot about themselves and the way they operate in the world, projecting it onto churches and priests and pastors and their congregation.

In my view, the most excellent and admirable thing about Christianity is that it sets standars that are hard to live up to. Some of the personnel fail. Easy with high standards.

Jetsetting pastors - all of you are free to write books and make speeches and presentations that people would want to pay for. Go ahead, try it if you think it is just a scam and anyone could do it.

These pastors are talking, working, energising all the time - they are not off for round the world luxury cruises for most of the year (people wouldn't pay money to read or hear what they have to say if they did). Some ride a Harley and have a gold watch and don't live in a hovel. So?

You go and speak and write in a way that inspires thousands and you shall also have a Harley and Rolex if you think that's all this is about.

maybe you should actually read the christian bible regarding worldly possessions and then you will find that these people are hypocrites and are in it for the money. Specifically the bible says the following but these hoarding parasites do the complete opposite. They say they represent the teachings of the bible but totally disregard the important messages !!

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Matthew 6:19

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Luke 14:33

Any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.

Matthew 6:24

No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money.

Matthew 19:21

Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Hebrews 13:5

Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you."

Phil 2:3

Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.

Acts 2:44-45

All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.

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Reply #169 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 6:46pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 6:26pm:

it is true that this thread reveals more about the peopel posting that the actual topic (which is patently false).

All lastnail threads being with an obvious falsehood and go on from there. the vast majority of posts are the 'i hate church' type and move on from there. actual facts and thin on the ground.

Well, obviously I'm not one of those haters. I love my church. We have places even for the abysmally lost like you and Wesley longy. We can cure your disease, heal your hurt, knit the loose fabric of your being. Spiritually speaking of course.

Naturally you will need to commit to donating 10% of your salary to our cause. You are also welcome to pitch in and spread the word. This is voluntary work you understand.

And of course you need to convert to eating noodles. Asian stir fry for us tonight! Yum.

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Reply #170 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 6:48pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 6:26pm:

it is true that this thread reveals more about the peopel posting that the actual topic (which is patently false).

All lastnail threads being with an obvious falsehood and go on from there. the vast majority of posts are the 'i hate church' type and move on from there. actual facts and thin on the ground.

what is false about having a harbour side mansion and a Harley Davidson Fatboy instead of passing that money onto the poor and needy and living in more modest living quarters and driving a more modest vehicle ??

Isn't this what Jesus would have wanted ?? Why say that you represent the teachings of christ whilst doing the complete opposite !!

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Reply #171 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 7:07pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 6:44pm:

maybe you should actually read the christian bible regarding worldly possessions and then you will find that these people are hypocrites and are in it for the money. Specifically the bible says the following but these hoarding parasites do the complete opposite. They say they represent the teachings of the bible but totally disregard the important messages !!

Quote:

Matthew 6:19

Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Luke 14:33

Any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.

Matthew 6:24

No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money.

Matthew 19:21

Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Hebrews 13:5

Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you."

Phil 2:3

Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves.

Acts 2:44-45

All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need.

As I mentioned before - Jesus was a Socialist (and he wasn't white either).

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Reply #173 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 7:37pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 7:18pm:

<<As I mentioned before - Jesus was a Socialist (and he wasn't white either).>>
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If he landed on our shores in a boat asking for asylum, the very people who worship him would send him back where he came from.....hypocrites.

There are many who believe the Messiah is with us now. It'll be a bit awkward if the Christians have him locked up in detention Shocked

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A touch of the Pontius Pilates eh what?

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Reply #174 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 9:27pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 6:26pm:

it is true that this thread reveals more about the peopel posting that the actual topic (which is patently false).

All lastnail threads being with an obvious falsehood and go on from there. the vast majority of posts are the 'i hate church' type and move on from there. actual facts and thin on the ground.

What I can't understand is how do people who run charitable institutions become multimillionaires with property portfolios that include harbour side mansions ?? Unless they are stealing from the poor how can this apparent anomaly exist ??

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Reply #175 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 9:42pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 9:27pm:

What I can't understand is how do people who run charitable institutions become multimillionaires with property portfolios that include harbour side mansions ?? Unless they are stealing from the poor how can this apparent anomaly exist ??

Their God must want them to be rich?

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Reply #176 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 9:45pm

If you can't take the proverbial out of dodgy salvation salesmen, like the over the hillsong gang, then life just aint worth living.
Their role in society is for people like myself to hold them in utter contempt, whilst mocking their evangelically stylised brand proselytising, which adds up to little more than creating ways of bilking fools from their money.

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Reply #178 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 10:27pm

Uncle wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 9:42pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 9:27pm:

What I can't understand is how do people who run charitable institutions become multimillionaires with property portfolios that include harbour side mansions ?? Unless they are stealing from the poor how can this apparent anomaly exist ??

Their God must want them to be rich?

whilst turning his back on the 40,000 children that die of hunger each day Sad

God doesn't like poor people and he certainly hates amputees Sad

It seems that your prayers are most likely to be answered the more wealthy the country you live in Wink

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Reply #179 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 10:30pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 8:32am:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 10^th, 2011 at 10:53pm:

and now we get right down to it. lets not care one iota about feeding the poor or helping the sick. this is about a handful of pastors who are good enough authors to make enough money to buy a nice house and a good car. so when this entire rant is boiled down it is done to ENVY? how disappointing. I wish I could say I was surprised. but these threads ALL boil down to this.

You dont care for the poor yourself but you do at least abuse those that do. How altruistic of you.

BTW one of Gods favoured people in history was David - a very rich king follwed by his son who was much loved by God and the richest person in all of history. both were made this way by God.

your biblical theology is as bad as your disinterest in the poor.

yes but you should read ALL of your bible. Where does Jesus charge people money to listen to him ??
Why are these scammers charging money to spread the word of god ?? surely it would be minimal overhead to setup a website and offer all of the music, video and literature as free downloads or just enough to cover the website !!

Compulsory purchase of fish sandwiches???

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