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Reply #195 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 4:24pm

Soren wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 3:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 11:07pm:

there's a sucker born every minute. verge and badweekend should watch this because they still don't get how the scam operates !!

I thought we were talking about the Australian context, not America. Nothing remotely like this would be posible here.

Just give it a bit more time. We'll get there Wink

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Reply #196 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 4:38pm

mozzaok wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 8:11am:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 6:40am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 9:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 6:26pm:

it is true that this thread reveals more about the peopel posting that the actual topic (which is patently false).

All lastnail threads being with an obvious falsehood and go on from there. the vast majority of posts are the 'i hate church' type and move on from there. actual facts and thin on the ground.

What I can't understand is how do people who run charitable institutions become multimillionaires with property portfolios that include harbour side mansions ?? Unless they are stealing from the poor how can this apparent anomaly exist ??

you dont understand how ANYONE can be wealthy. the whole concept of risk, skill, talent and hard work totally eludes you.

By that criteria, ponzi scheme operators must rank highly with you also???

i except that kind if idiotic response from toenail - not you. I laugh at the way you people cant cope with the idea of someone being wealthy because they are good speakers and authors. the idea of something beyond a daily grind 9-5 job DOES elude most of you.

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Reply #197 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 4:56pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 10:00am:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 6:40am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 9:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 6:26pm:

it is true that this thread reveals more about the peopel posting that the actual topic (which is patently false).

All lastnail threads being with an obvious falsehood and go on from there. the vast majority of posts are the 'i hate church' type and move on from there. actual facts and thin on the ground.

What I can't understand is how do people who run charitable institutions become multimillionaires with property portfolios that include harbour side mansions ?? Unless they are stealing from the poor how can this apparent anomaly exist ??

you dont understand how ANYONE can be wealthy. the whole concept of risk, skill, talent and hard work totally eludes you.

so how do you become wealthy out of running a charity unless the charity is really a profitable business that should be paying tax ??

I know the notion of comprehension eludes you but try understanding this: Brian Houston's wealth comes from his NON-CHURCH activities ie speaking to the secular world and his books. Now tell me again what is wrong with that other than your envy abd your belief that no one who is a christian is allowed to be successful.

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Reply #198 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 5:17pm

Soren wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 3:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 11:07pm:

there's a sucker born every minute. verge and badweekend should watch this because they still don't get how the scam operates !!

I thought we were talking about the Australian context, not America. Nothing remotely like this would be posible here.

I'm no expert but I know both Dollar and Copeland appear regularly on Australian TV and take a good rake off from our country.

http://www.creflodollarministries.org/Broadcast/TVlistings.aspx

Copeland, Otis, et al, (Word of Faith) are openly afilliated with Hillsong and preach there.

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What do you know about the theological beliefs of Hillsong and their companions? Are you aware that they are supporters and promoters of Word of Faith teachers and their erroneous doctrines? The Word of God counsels Christians to separate from and expose false teachers. Do Hillsong leaders warn their congregations of the heresies promoted by Word of Faith teachers? Or do they allow them to spread their diabolical heresies? Why don’t you ask the leaders of Hillsong what they think of the following popular teachers and what they teach?

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~rseaborn/world_worship.html

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Reply #199 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 5:37pm

Grey wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 5:17pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 3:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 11:07pm:

there's a sucker born every minute. verge and badweekend should watch this because they still don't get how the scam operates !!

I thought we were talking about the Australian context, not America. Nothing remotely like this would be posible here.

I'm no expert but I know both Dollar and Copeland appear regularly on Australian TV and take a good rake off from our country.

http://www.creflodollarministries.org/Broadcast/TVlistings.aspx

Copeland, Otis, et al, (Word of Faith) are openly afilliated with Hillsong and preach there.

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What do you know about the theological beliefs of Hillsong and their companions? Are you aware that they are supporters and promoters of Word of Faith teachers and their erroneous doctrines? The Word of God counsels Christians to separate from and expose false teachers. Do Hillsong leaders warn their congregations of the heresies promoted by Word of Faith teachers? Or do they allow them to spread their diabolical heresies? Why don’t you ask the leaders of Hillsong what they think of the following popular teachers and what they teach?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=modify;message=198;t...

what are the suppsoed doctrinal errors you are referring to?

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Reply #200 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 5:42pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 5:37pm:

Grey wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 5:17pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 3:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 11:07pm:

there's a sucker born every minute. verge and badweekend should watch this because they still don't get how the scam operates !!

I thought we were talking about the Australian context, not America. Nothing remotely like this would be posible here.

I'm no expert but I know both Dollar and Copeland appear regularly on Australian TV and take a good rake off from our country.

http://www.creflodollarministries.org/Broadcast/TVlistings.aspx

Copeland, Otis, et al, (Word of Faith) are openly afilliated with Hillsong and preach there.

Quote:

What do you know about the theological beliefs of Hillsong and their companions? Are you aware that they are supporters and promoters of Word of Faith teachers and their erroneous doctrines? The Word of God counsels Christians to separate from and expose false teachers. Do Hillsong leaders warn their congregations of the heresies promoted by Word of Faith teachers? Or do they allow them to spread their diabolical heresies? Why don’t you ask the leaders of Hillsong what they think of the following popular teachers and what they teach?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=modify;message=198;t...

what are the suppsoed doctrinal errors you are referring to?

What would I know? I can't tell the difference between one bucket of hogwash and another. I referred to the link I provided, I suggest you go there to find out. Grin

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Reply #201 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 5:57pm

Grey wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 5:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 5:37pm:

Grey wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 5:17pm:

Soren wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 3:02pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 11:07pm:

there's a sucker born every minute. verge and badweekend should watch this because they still don't get how the scam operates !!

I thought we were talking about the Australian context, not America. Nothing remotely like this would be posible here.

I'm no expert but I know both Dollar and Copeland appear regularly on Australian TV and take a good rake off from our country.

http://www.creflodollarministries.org/Broadcast/TVlistings.aspx

Copeland, Otis, et al, (Word of Faith) are openly afilliated with Hillsong and preach there.

Quote:

What do you know about the theological beliefs of Hillsong and their companions? Are you aware that they are supporters and promoters of Word of Faith teachers and their erroneous doctrines? The Word of God counsels Christians to separate from and expose false teachers. Do Hillsong leaders warn their congregations of the heresies promoted by Word of Faith teachers? Or do they allow them to spread their diabolical heresies? Why don’t you ask the leaders of Hillsong what they think of the following popular teachers and what they teach?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=modify;message=198;t...

what are the suppsoed doctrinal errors you are referring to?

What would I know? I can't tell the difference between one bucket of hogwash and another. I referred to the link I provided, I suggest you go there to find out. Grin

your link just goes to a posting page. what link did u mean to list?

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Reply #202 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 6:01pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 4:38pm:

mozzaok wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 8:11am:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 6:40am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 9:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 6:26pm:

it is true that this thread reveals more about the peopel posting that the actual topic (which is patently false).

All lastnail threads being with an obvious falsehood and go on from there. the vast majority of posts are the 'i hate church' type and move on from there. actual facts and thin on the ground.

What I can't understand is how do people who run charitable institutions become multimillionaires with property portfolios that include harbour side mansions ?? Unless they are stealing from the poor how can this apparent anomaly exist ??

you dont understand how ANYONE can be wealthy. the whole concept of risk, skill, talent and hard work totally eludes you.

By that criteria, ponzi scheme operators must rank highly with you also???

i except that kind if idiotic response from toenail - not you. I laugh at the way you people cant cope with the idea of someone being wealthy because they are good speakers and authors. the idea of something beyond a daily grind 9-5 job DOES elude most of you.

Or could it be that they pass themselves off as "men of god" and then reap the rewards that a captive audience gives them?

Their "writing skills" are only on display for god believers.

No atheist , agnostic , buddhist , muslim or hindu ever bought their books.

Every single white supremacist has "The Turner Diaries" on his bookshelf.

That doesnt make William Pierce a skillful writer.

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barnaby joe Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1992 euchareena	Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !! Reply #203 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 6:04pm pfft darkhall you don't know anything about white supremacists - they'd rather read camp of the saints! the writing in camp is actually extremely good.
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Grey Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5341 Gender:	Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !! Reply #204 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 6:11pm longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 5:57pm: your link just goes to a posting page. what link did u mean to list? sorry http://members.ozemail.com.au/~rseaborn/world_worship.html
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Life_goes_on Gold Member Offline Posts: 4772 400kms south of Yobsville, Qld Gender:	Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !! Reply #205 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 6:21pm Quote: Every single white supremacist has "The Turner Diaries" on his bookshelf. You mean every single white supremacist that can read. The rest just have a confederate flag hanging where the bookshelf would be otherwise.
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Reply #206 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 6:24pm

darkhall67 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 6:01pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 4:38pm:

mozzaok wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 8:11am:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 6:40am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 9:27pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 6:26pm:

it is true that this thread reveals more about the peopel posting that the actual topic (which is patently false).

All lastnail threads being with an obvious falsehood and go on from there. the vast majority of posts are the 'i hate church' type and move on from there. actual facts and thin on the ground.

What I can't understand is how do people who run charitable institutions become multimillionaires with property portfolios that include harbour side mansions ?? Unless they are stealing from the poor how can this apparent anomaly exist ??

you dont understand how ANYONE can be wealthy. the whole concept of risk, skill, talent and hard work totally eludes you.

By that criteria, ponzi scheme operators must rank highly with you also???

i except that kind if idiotic response from toenail - not you. I laugh at the way you people cant cope with the idea of someone being wealthy because they are good speakers and authors. the idea of something beyond a daily grind 9-5 job DOES elude most of you.

Or could it be that they pass themselves off as "men of god" and then reap the rewards that a captive audience gives them?

Their "writing skills" are only on display for god believers.

No atheist , agnostic , buddhist , muslim or hindu ever bought their books.

Every single white supremacist has "The Turner Diaries" on his bookshelf.

That doesnt make William Pierce a skillful writer.

they write business and motivational books as well you know. and *shock horror* atheists buy them. atheists actually pay large amounts of money to hear some of these people speak at business events etc. Something for you to think about while your preconceptions are not totally covering your mind.

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Reply #207 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 6:27pm

Grey wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 6:11pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 5:57pm:

your link just goes to a posting page. what link did u mean to list?

sorry

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~rseaborn/world_worship.html

oh pphhhlllease!!! this is a single persons personal webpage where he does his own rant about Hillsong. You might as well link to lastnails webapg. the credibility is the same.

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Reply #208 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 6:28pm

Grey wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 5:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 5:37pm:

what are the suppsoed doctrinal errors you are referring to?

What would I know?

Being stupid is not an argument, grey, as I keep telling you and as you sadly keep not comprehending. Posting snippet from another idiot about heresy is an argument only for idiots like you. You post it with a laughing emoticon but you have no idea what it means. Moron just about covers it. for both of you.

Anyway, heresy-schmeresy. The multiplicity of interpretation (ie churches, confessions) within Christianity (and all othr religions) means multiplicity of heresies. The catholics are heretic to the protestants. That was the whole point of the reformation.

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Reply #209 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 8:39pm

Soren wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 6:28pm:

Grey wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 5:42pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 5:37pm:

what are the suppsoed doctrinal errors you are referring to?

What would I know?

Being stupid is not an argument, grey, as I keep telling you and as you sadly keep not comprehending. Posting snippet from another idiot about heresy is an argument only for idiots like you. You post it with a laughing emoticon but you have no idea what it means. Moron just about covers it. for both of you.

Anyway, heresy-schmeresy. The multiplicity of interpretation (ie churches, confessions) within Christianity (and all othr religions) means multiplicity of heresies. The catholics are heretic to the protestants. That was the whole point of the reformation.

Ah yes point and getting to it. The entire point of the links I posted were to show the Australian links to the preachers in the video that some twit upthread had commented.

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I thought we were talking about the Australian context, not America. Nothing remotely like this would be posible here.

Who could be so impenetrably thick as to post that hmmm?

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