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Reply #210 - Nov 12th, 2011 at 9:15pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12th, 2011 at 4:56pm:
I know the notion of comprehension eludes you but try understanding this: Brian Houston's wealth comes from his NON-CHURCH activities ie speaking to the secular world and his books. Now tell me again what is wrong with that other than your envy abd your belief that no one who is a christian is allowed to be successful.


but leveraging on his position in the church to flog his wares. Why not offer it for free on a website and let others copy it and hand it around ?? Isn't that what spreading the word is all about ?? Isn't that what Jesus would have wanted ??
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Reply #211 - Nov 12th, 2011 at 9:26pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12th, 2011 at 6:24pm:
they write business and motivational books as well you know. and *shock horror* atheists buy them. atheists actually pay large amounts of money to hear some of these people speak at business events etc. Something for you to think about while your preconceptions are not totally covering your mind.


yeh right !@! how many atheists do you know who would actually pay for their bullshit ??

and what is their business ?? conning deluded god believers out of their hard earned money and then investing that money in real estate and then writing another book of how god made me so wealthy Cheesy LOL

It's funny how you defend that sort of business of selling bullshit to gullible people but are totally against anything that can help out the battlers.  
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Reply #212 - Nov 12th, 2011 at 9:31pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12th, 2011 at 6:27pm:
Grey wrote on Nov 12th, 2011 at 6:11pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12th, 2011 at 5:57pm:
your link just goes to a posting page. what link did u mean to list?


sorry  Wink

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~rseaborn/world_worship.html


oh pphhhlllease!!! this is a single persons personal webpage where he does his own rant about Hillsong. You might as well link to lastnails webapg. the credibility is the same.


well maybe you'd prefer to hear it straight from the horses mouth but off course you know more than Tanya Levine !!




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Reply #213 - Nov 12th, 2011 at 9:57pm
 
badweekend should watch this one and see what happens when a loyal HillSong member and failed businessman loses 25 million of church members money including two pastors who lost $540,000 !!

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Mr Orehek claims he made very few friends at hillsong even after 5 years... until people heard that he was a property developer. Then over 100 peopled phoned up wanting to be rich !!

His business failed and though bankrupt he continued to attend the church. But Brian Houston banned him from the church and his source of comfort.

Where was the love and forgiveness and chance of redemption ??

The prosperity gospel doesn't look good when you lose money.

Fail to succeed and they ban you from Hillsong !!

Molest children and they pray for you !!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=bSTXVI-3vz8



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Reply #214 - Nov 12th, 2011 at 10:02pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 12th, 2011 at 9:31pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12th, 2011 at 6:27pm:
Grey wrote on Nov 12th, 2011 at 6:11pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12th, 2011 at 5:57pm:
your link just goes to a posting page. what link did u mean to list?


sorry  Wink

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~rseaborn/world_worship.html


oh pphhhlllease!!! this is a single persons personal webpage where he does his own rant about Hillsong. You might as well link to lastnails webapg. the credibility is the same.


well maybe you'd prefer to hear it straight from the horses mouth but off course you know more than Tanya Levine !!






Tanya Levine is nothing more than just a disaffected person who went to the church at some stage. What makes you think she has some deep insights based on her time there that 20,000 OTHER people disagree with. she wasnt inner-circle or anyone important - JUST a person in a pew. but because she has a big mouth there are morons who listen to here while ignoring the 20,000 OTHER members of the church.

and all she ever does is give her OPINION on things.   

If you ever got anywhere near SUCCESS you would know this is what always happens. small people make loud noises about the sucess of others. Small minds that can never achieve what other people do. so in the absence of success they rip into other people's sucess.

you are just like Tanya Levine - a loser who cant cope when other people succeed and when things dont go the way SHE thinks they should. The only real difference between her and you is that she actually got noticed - very briefly - and the only person who takes any notice of yo uis that perennial idiot - booby.
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Reply #215 - Nov 12th, 2011 at 10:11pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12th, 2011 at 10:02pm:
Tanya Levine is nothing more than just a disaffected person who went to the church at some stage. What makes you think she has some deep insights based on her time there that 20,000 OTHER people disagree with. she wasnt inner-circle or anyone important - JUST a person in a pew. but because she has a big mouth there are morons who listen to here while ignoring the 20,000 OTHER members of the church.

and all she ever does is give her OPINION on things.  

If you ever got anywhere near SUCCESS you would know this is what always happens. small people make loud noises about the sucess of others. Small minds that can never achieve what other people do. so in the absence of success they rip into other people's sucess.

you are just like Tanya Levine - a loser who cant cope when other people succeed and when things dont go the way SHE thinks they should. The only real difference between her and you is that she actually got noticed - very briefly - and the only person who takes any notice of yo uis that perennial idiot - booby.


yep shooting the messenger again as usual. you don't even know Tanya Levin and here you are bagging someone you don't know just because she doesn't agree you. You are pathetic and predictable.

What about Mr Mr Orehek ?? Is he a loser too ??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=bSTXVI-3vz8

The very three things that you totally endorse but failed dismally !!

  • Investing in property
  • Believing in an imaginary god
  • Attending HillSux church


Look who are the losers now sucker Cheesy LOL
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Reply #216 - Nov 13th, 2011 at 6:24am
 
Have you ever seen the pastor spend time with the down and out members of the congregation after the service? They never do. They hang around the influential ones, the ones who tithe by direct debit from their account. The influential people, the doctors, vets, solicitors, business people. Old Mrs Jones, the pensioner gets a cursory handshake and thank you for coming, the lesser mortals, those unkempt ones who happen to drop in for a bit of comfort get ignored by the congregation and the clergy. Jesus would have done the opposite.

It is only about money and Islamophobia.

I know because I was there, first hand experience.

Like Tanya, I asked questions and discovered that sheep don't question. I was only half brainwashed. I think once you are fully brainwashed, it's so much harder to break away.

It's always the same defence when one of their own wake up and see the light, she wants to ruin the church by spreading untruths, when in fact she is spreading the truth.

Do you think we will ever save longy from himself?

What you should do longy is pretend to leave the church, you don't really have to leave, just don't go for a couple of weeks and put some rumours out that you might not be coming back, Tell them you are reading material that opposes the church's viewpoint.

The pastor might come around and have a little chat to convince you the devil is doing his work in you, you must tithe more and pray more to fight the devil. If you are not a good wage earner, your 10% is not even worth a visit.

It's just an experiment at this stage remember. Just see how many of your church pals get in contact to see if you're ok. Maybe after six weeks the pastor has given up and the church people look the other way when they see you. By this time you are starting to think for yourself, those people never really cared about me.

You are now starting to search for knowledge, the kind of knowledge that people like Tanya Levin will give you. Keep searching, keep reading. Now you are free!

It's just an experiment, you don't have to do it you know  Smiley  Smiley

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Reply #217 - Nov 13th, 2011 at 10:13am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 13th, 2011 at 6:24am:
Have you ever seen the pastor spend time with the down and out members of the congregation after the service? They never do. They hang around the influential ones, the ones who tithe by direct debit from their account. The influential people, the doctors, vets, solicitors, business people. Old Mrs Jones, the pensioner gets a cursory handshake and thank you for coming, the lesser mortals, those unkempt ones who happen to drop in for a bit of comfort get ignored by the congregation and the clergy. Jesus would have done the opposite.

It is only about money and Islamophobia.

I know because I was there, first hand experience.

Like Tanya, I asked questions and discovered that sheep don't question. I was only half brainwashed. I think once you are fully brainwashed, it's so much harder to break away.

It's always the same defence when one of their own wake up and see the light, she wants to ruin the church by spreading untruths, when in fact she is spreading the truth.

Do you think we will ever save longy from himself?

What you should do longy is pretend to leave the church, you don't really have to leave, just don't go for a couple of weeks and put some rumours out that you might not be coming back, Tell them you are reading material that opposes the church's viewpoint.

The pastor might come around and have a little chat to convince you the devil is doing his work in you, you must tithe more and pray more to fight the devil. If you are not a good wage earner, your 10% is not even worth a visit.

It's just an experiment at this stage remember. Just see how many of your church pals get in contact to see if you're ok. Maybe after six weeks the pastor has given up and the church people look the other way when they see you. By this time you are starting to think for yourself, those people never really cared about me.

You are now starting to search for knowledge, the kind of knowledge that people like Tanya Levin will give you. Keep searching, keep reading. Now you are free!

It's just an experiment, you don't have to do it you know  Smiley  Smiley



well said !!

those people that tithe 10% of their income to the church are so obsessed by their own ego that they honestly believe they are buying a gold pass  to heaven. You see, the church appeals to their ego and their greed that's why it is easy for them to get conned by all of the unsubstantiated drivel that the church feeds them !!

Once you start doubting the church and its teachings then you become the problem and if the leaders can't convince you otherwise then they politefully tell you to get lost because it's bad for business if they have a heckler in the crowd seeding doubt Wink

They have a dozen different defence mechanisms they use from the bible to discredit any dissenters like the doubting Thomas Cheesy LOL
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Reply #218 - Nov 13th, 2011 at 11:11am
 
pansi and toenail have the most to say about a place they dont go to. much of what you write is drivel and most if it uninformed or out and out lies.
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Reply #219 - Nov 13th, 2011 at 11:19am
 


longweekend58 wrote on Nov 13th, 2011 at 11:11am:
pansi and toenail have the most to say about a place they dont go to. much of what you write is drivel and most if it uninformed or out and out lies.




What makes you so sure that neither of them have sat in on any religious gatherings?

I've sat in on many over the years and found the vibe to be extremely creepy: crazy talk from the religious leaders and mindless chanting and singing from followers in a paradoxically frenzied-cum-trance-like state - both preceded by and followed by narrow 'conversations' in parroted phrases...


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Reply #220 - Nov 13th, 2011 at 11:29am
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 12th, 2011 at 10:11pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 12th, 2011 at 10:02pm:
Tanya Levine is nothing more than just a disaffected person who went to the church at some stage. What makes you think she has some deep insights based on her time there that 20,000 OTHER people disagree with. she wasnt inner-circle or anyone important - JUST a person in a pew. but because she has a big mouth there are morons who listen to here while ignoring the 20,000 OTHER members of the church.

and all she ever does is give her OPINION on things.  

If you ever got anywhere near SUCCESS you would know this is what always happens. small people make loud noises about the sucess of others. Small minds that can never achieve what other people do. so in the absence of success they rip into other people's sucess.

you are just like Tanya Levine - a loser who cant cope when other people succeed and when things dont go the way SHE thinks they should. The only real difference between her and you is that she actually got noticed - very briefly - and the only person who takes any notice of yo uis that perennial idiot - booby.


yep shooting the messenger again as usual. you don't even know Tanya Levin and here you are bagging someone you don't know just because she doesn't agree you. You are pathetic and predictable.

What about Mr Mr Orehek ?? Is he a loser too ??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=bSTXVI-3vz8

The very three things that you totally endorse but failed dismally !!

  • Investing in property
  • Believing in an imaginary god
  • Attending HillSux church


Look who are the losers now sucker Cheesy LOL


loser because I own a house? A house that is INCREASING in value?

God is only imaginary to YOU. large numbers beleive quite opposite and have much evidence in their court.

3 months ago I was a catholic according to you. Now I go to Hillsong? For the record ive never even been to either.

Sot here you have it. wrong - and badly so - on all three counts.

You are batting your usual average!
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Reply #221 - Nov 13th, 2011 at 11:39am
 
Are there many 'lefties' at your church longy?

I was the odd man out being 'left thinking' and a humanitarian, it was never going to work. I wonder how Jesus fits into the scheme of things, I'm sure he was even more 'left' than me.

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Reply #222 - Nov 13th, 2011 at 11:51am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 13th, 2011 at 11:11am:
pansi and toenail have the most to say about a place they dont go to. much of what you write is drivel and most if it uninformed or out and out lies.


and you know more about it than Tanya Levin even though as you say you are not a member Smiley LOL
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Reply #223 - Nov 13th, 2011 at 11:57am
 
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 13th, 2011 at 11:29am:
loser because I own a house? A house that is INCREASING in value?

God is only imaginary to YOU. large numbers beleive quite opposite and have much evidence in their court.

3 months ago I was a catholic according to you. Now I go to Hillsong? For the record ive never even been to either.

Sot here you have it. wrong - and badly so - on all three counts.

You are batting your usual average!


yeh you are right up there with the likes of warren buffer. He only owns one house but he is a LOT more successful than you will ever be.

If you knew you were going to be so successful with your one house why didn't you buy a dozen houses at the time Cheesy LOL

Again I ask,  are these people from HillSong losers too ?? They bought into 24 million of property but ended up with NOTHING !! Looks like Brian Houston's get rich quick books and DVDs were not much use Cheesy LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=bSTXVI-3vz8

How many poor and starving would 24 million feed these days ??

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Reply #224 - Nov 13th, 2011 at 11:58am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 13th, 2011 at 11:39am:
Are there many 'lefties' at your church longy?

I was the odd man out being 'left thinking' and a humanitarian, it was never going to work. I wonder how Jesus fits into the scheme of things, I'm sure he was even more 'left' than me.



Jesus is just a brand name these days. There is no resemblance to the original character Sad
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