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Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!
Reply #270 - Nov 15^th, 2011 at 6:57pm

... wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 6:14pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 6:06pm:

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qikvtec wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 10:43am:

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Let's hope the knockers never have a child hooked on cannabis at the tender age of 12 or 14, a kid like the Bali boy. If the Hillsong kids got hold of him and turned his life around, would they still despise the Christian values they try to live by?

Cannabis is not addictive, it has no physical addictive properties; nor is it toxic (well it is but the quantity required to be consumed in the time required is physically impossible); that little bastard should swing for those comments; it's ignorance like this that keeps the medicinal properties of Cannabis suppressed in most of the world.

youjust keep on believing that... enjoy yoru denial (and addiction). no one with an ounce of medical training or a skerrick of intelligence beleives cannabis isnt addictive.

One thing remains true, until the human race discovered oil and its plastic derivitives, Hemp was a major factor in all lives.
It was grown and smoked since time ancient times, according to the sage Jello Biafra, George Washington has recorded in his diary that he separated the felmale from male plants, the only reason for this would be quality of smoke Shocked

It wasn't the church or doctors calling for its criminalisation, it was a group of companies suring up commerical opportunities.

Now the juries still out but I am inclined to believe all the chemicals used in hydroponic growth could well tigger the mental problems but if thats the case it's not the plant at all. Wink

The chemicals used in hydro are just fertiliser - NPK - just like you'd use to grow anything else from roses to tomatoes. Hydroponic just allows you to control things like light hours and nutrients, giving you better control over its growth.
Besides, IF weed, indo or outdo, CAUSED schizophrenia, the incidence rate would have spiked around the 60's and again in the 90s/noughties....but it has stayed constant for...forever.

With the control of light they get a crop every 6 or so weeks (I have heard and am no expert so may well be wrong) whereas outdoor takes 6 to 8 months I would imagine.
Perhaps that concentration of growth + fertiliser somehow changes the plant on a molecular level?

As for the actual topic of the thread perhaps the answer is they produce receipts from charitiable work and get a 100% rebate on that part,any money made over and above those costs be taxed at the standard company rate.
The charity work is tax free, the rest is taxed.

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Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!
Reply #271 - Nov 15^th, 2011 at 11:06pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 6:57pm:

... wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 6:14pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 6:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 4:40pm:

qikvtec wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 10:43am:

toots wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 6:29am:

Let's hope the knockers never have a child hooked on cannabis at the tender age of 12 or 14, a kid like the Bali boy. If the Hillsong kids got hold of him and turned his life around, would they still despise the Christian values they try to live by?

Cannabis is not addictive, it has no physical addictive properties; nor is it toxic (well it is but the quantity required to be consumed in the time required is physically impossible); that little bastard should swing for those comments; it's ignorance like this that keeps the medicinal properties of Cannabis suppressed in most of the world.

youjust keep on believing that... enjoy yoru denial (and addiction). no one with an ounce of medical training or a skerrick of intelligence beleives cannabis isnt addictive.

One thing remains true, until the human race discovered oil and its plastic derivitives, Hemp was a major factor in all lives.
It was grown and smoked since time ancient times, according to the sage Jello Biafra, George Washington has recorded in his diary that he separated the felmale from male plants, the only reason for this would be quality of smoke Shocked

It wasn't the church or doctors calling for its criminalisation, it was a group of companies suring up commerical opportunities.

Now the juries still out but I am inclined to believe all the chemicals used in hydroponic growth could well tigger the mental problems but if thats the case it's not the plant at all. Wink

The chemicals used in hydro are just fertiliser - NPK - just like you'd use to grow anything else from roses to tomatoes. Hydroponic just allows you to control things like light hours and nutrients, giving you better control over its growth.
Besides, IF weed, indo or outdo, CAUSED schizophrenia, the incidence rate would have spiked around the 60's and again in the 90s/noughties....but it has stayed constant for...forever.

With the control of light they get a crop every 6 or so weeks (I have heard and am no expert so may well be wrong) whereas outdoor takes 6 to 8 months I would imagine.
Perhaps that concentration of growth + fertiliser somehow changes the plant on a molecular level?

As for the actual topic of the thread perhaps the answer is they produce receipts from charitiable work and get a 100% rebate on that part,any money made over and above those costs be taxed at the standard company rate.
The charity work is tax free, the rest is taxed.

The only change on a molecular level is in the roots which adapt themselves for growing with a constant supply of water. This can be found in all plants in nature, (plants growing above an underground spring for instance). It doesn't change the DNA. Cannabis starts to flower in response to the shortening of daylight. So plants can be induced to flower by shortening bulb hours. All plants will grow fast with a constant supply of nutrient and water. In fact all carbon based life forms on this planet will. Australians grew better than poms within a very short space of time because of a better diet.

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The charity work is tax free, the rest is taxed.

That's not the case, they simply are tax exempt.

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Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!
Reply #272 - Nov 15^th, 2011 at 11:10pm

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Grey wrote on Nov 13^th, 2011 at 2:12pm:

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Who did you vote for grey? I adored John Lennon and I cried all the way home the day I heard he was killed. Some of my favourite songs are his and the beetles.

Well to be honest I wish I'd voted for Stephen Fry but I was feeling contrary. I don't much like Russel Brand, but I liked the compassion he showed over the death of Amy Winehouse.

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Reply #273 - Nov 16^th, 2011 at 6:52am

... wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 6:14pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 6:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 4:40pm:

qikvtec wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 10:43am:

toots wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 6:29am:

Let's hope the knockers never have a child hooked on cannabis at the tender age of 12 or 14, a kid like the Bali boy. If the Hillsong kids got hold of him and turned his life around, would they still despise the Christian values they try to live by?

Cannabis is not addictive, it has no physical addictive properties; nor is it toxic (well it is but the quantity required to be consumed in the time required is physically impossible); that little bastard should swing for those comments; it's ignorance like this that keeps the medicinal properties of Cannabis suppressed in most of the world.

youjust keep on believing that... enjoy yoru denial (and addiction). no one with an ounce of medical training or a skerrick of intelligence beleives cannabis isnt addictive.

One thing remains true, until the human race discovered oil and its plastic derivitives, Hemp was a major factor in all lives.
It was grown and smoked since time ancient times, according to the sage Jello Biafra, George Washington has recorded in his diary that he separated the felmale from male plants, the only reason for this would be quality of smoke Shocked

It wasn't the church or doctors calling for its criminalisation, it was a group of companies suring up commerical opportunities.

Now the juries still out but I am inclined to believe all the chemicals used in hydroponic growth could well tigger the mental problems but if thats the case it's not the plant at all. Wink

The chemicals used in hydro are just fertiliser - NPK - just like you'd use to grow anything else from roses to tomatoes. Hydroponic just allows you to control things like light hours and nutrients, giving you better control over its growth.
Besides, IF weed, indo or outdo, CAUSED schizophrenia, the incidence rate would have spiked around the 60's and again in the 90s/noughties....but it has stayed constant for...forever.

that line hasnt exactly helped yoru credibility. Mental illness has spiked enormously in the last 50 years with over 90% the result of the abuse of drugs including weed.

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Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!
Reply #274 - Nov 16^th, 2011 at 6:55am

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 6:57pm:

... wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 6:14pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 6:06pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 4:40pm:

qikvtec wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 10:43am:

toots wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 6:29am:

Let's hope the knockers never have a child hooked on cannabis at the tender age of 12 or 14, a kid like the Bali boy. If the Hillsong kids got hold of him and turned his life around, would they still despise the Christian values they try to live by?

Cannabis is not addictive, it has no physical addictive properties; nor is it toxic (well it is but the quantity required to be consumed in the time required is physically impossible); that little bastard should swing for those comments; it's ignorance like this that keeps the medicinal properties of Cannabis suppressed in most of the world.

youjust keep on believing that... enjoy yoru denial (and addiction). no one with an ounce of medical training or a skerrick of intelligence beleives cannabis isnt addictive.

One thing remains true, until the human race discovered oil and its plastic derivitives, Hemp was a major factor in all lives.
It was grown and smoked since time ancient times, according to the sage Jello Biafra, George Washington has recorded in his diary that he separated the felmale from male plants, the only reason for this would be quality of smoke Shocked

It wasn't the church or doctors calling for its criminalisation, it was a group of companies suring up commerical opportunities.

Now the juries still out but I am inclined to believe all the chemicals used in hydroponic growth could well tigger the mental problems but if thats the case it's not the plant at all. Wink

The chemicals used in hydro are just fertiliser - NPK - just like you'd use to grow anything else from roses to tomatoes. Hydroponic just allows you to control things like light hours and nutrients, giving you better control over its growth.
Besides, IF weed, indo or outdo, CAUSED schizophrenia, the incidence rate would have spiked around the 60's and again in the 90s/noughties....but it has stayed constant for...forever.

With the control of light they get a crop every 6 or so weeks (I have heard and am no expert so may well be wrong) whereas outdoor takes 6 to 8 months I would imagine.
Perhaps that concentration of growth + fertiliser somehow changes the plant on a molecular level?

As for the actual topic of the thread perhaps the answer is they produce receipts from charitiable work and get a 100% rebate on that part,any money made over and above those costs be taxed at the standard company rate.
The charity work is tax free, the rest is taxed.

you are missing the point - like so many others. what you aer in effect saying is that DONATIONS to a church (or anywhere else) shoudl be taxed. on what planet is that fair or reasonable or even make sense? Why should a GIFT made to a non-profit group be taxed since it was taxed originally by the earner? unless youare going to make all church giving automatically tax deductible?

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Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!
Reply #275 - Nov 16^th, 2011 at 7:00am

Grey wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 11:06pm: