Australian Politics Forum - Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!

longweekend58

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 45675
Gender: male

Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!
Reply #315 - Nov 18^th, 2011 at 11:35am

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 9:36am:

Verge wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 7:56am:

That is unterly incorrect.

They are still liable for fringe benefits tax, and get captured quite quickly, just the amount they can do FBT free is set at the same as say the health care profession, which is higher, I think about $25k.

They also have to withhold tax from employees, pay super and workers comp.

If you dont understand the law, please dont comment on it. They still have the same tax obligations towards employees every other business has.

I thought between a high level executive and your lover boy high flying international businessman you would know this.

How do you know that when their books are not open to scrutiny by the ATO ? They are certainly not treated like a normal business is Sad

I wouldn't use you as an accountant.

you sprout things that are utter garbage and claim it to be true. Hillsongs books are OPEN to the public you retard! Same with my church. the ATo DOES audit non-profits as it does every other type of organistaions thatr has a tax liability.

You are one of the least informed posters on here. even prevailing makes more sense than you sometiems and he is (literally) insane.

Back to top

AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

IP Logged

Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 105333 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !! Reply #316 - Nov 18^th, 2011 at 12:19pm Longweekend, Quote: Hillsongs books are OPEN to the public you retard! Same with my church . Oh really - when's the last time the tax dept went to the Vatican & had a look at the books? Longweekend - don't defend these sham businesses. I pay tax & so should they.
Back to top	IP Logged

...

Gold Member

Offline

Posts: 23673
WA
Gender: male

Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!
Reply #317 - Nov 18^th, 2011 at 12:21pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 12:19pm:

Longweekend,
Quote:

Hillsongs books are OPEN to the public you retard! Same with my church

.

Oh really - when's the last time the tax dept went to the Vatican & had a look at the books?

Longweekend - don't defend these sham businesses.
I pay tax & so should they.

The ATO doesn't have jurisdiction in the vatican....

Back to top

In the fullness of time...

IP Logged

Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30089 Gender:	Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !! Reply #318 - Nov 18^th, 2011 at 12:48pm why did badweekend move the thread for ?? This thread is about tax avoidance by certain privileged few. It has nothing to do with spirituality !! badweekend is just trying to silence dissent against the corrupt church institutions !! get a life will you badweekend !!
Back to top	« Last Edit: Nov 18^th, 2011 at 1:05pm by Sir lastnail » In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”. IP Logged

Sir lastnail

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 30089
Gender: male

Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!
Reply #319 - Nov 18^th, 2011 at 12:51pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 11:35am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 9:36am:

Verge wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 7:56am:

That is unterly incorrect.

They are still liable for fringe benefits tax, and get captured quite quickly, just the amount they can do FBT free is set at the same as say the health care profession, which is higher, I think about $25k.

They also have to withhold tax from employees, pay super and workers comp.

If you dont understand the law, please dont comment on it. They still have the same tax obligations towards employees every other business has.

I thought between a high level executive and your lover boy high flying international businessman you would know this.

How do you know that when their books are not open to scrutiny by the ATO ? They are certainly not treated like a normal business is Sad

I wouldn't use you as an accountant.

you sprout things that are utter garbage and claim it to be true. Hillsongs books are OPEN to the public you retard! Same with my church. the ATo DOES audit non-profits as it does every other type of organistaions thatr has a tax liability.

You are one of the least informed posters on here. even prevailing makes more sense than you sometiems and he is (literally) insane.

WHERE IS IT THEN ???

The books are NOT OPEN to the public according to Tanya Levin.

See if you can get the information if it's so publicly available Cheesy

LOL

It should be on their website but it isn't. Why isn't it ??

Back to top

In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

IP Logged

Gist

Gold Member

Offline

I am not a sock, I am
a human being!

Posts: 5476

Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!
Reply #320 - Nov 18^th, 2011 at 6:20pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 11:35am:

you sprout things that are utter garbage and claim it to be true. Hillsongs books are OPEN to the public you retard! Same with my church. the ATo DOES audit non-profits as it does every other type of organistaions thatr has a tax liability.

You are one of the least informed posters on here. even prevailing makes more sense than you sometiems and he is (literally) insane.

Not exactly. Hillsong claims its books are open to members of its congregation. A subtle difference there. Even so, it's unlikely you'd see the accounts for all the various associated businesses and bodies.

Back to top

"When our military goes to war it should be for purposes and objectives clearly in Australia’s interests, not merely because the Americans want some company" - Malcolm Fraser (2012 Whitlam Oration)

IP Logged

Bobby.

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 105333
Melbourne
Gender: male

Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!
Reply #321 - Nov 18^th, 2011 at 9:07pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 12:51pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 11:35am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 9:36am:

Verge wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 7:56am:

That is unterly incorrect.

They are still liable for fringe benefits tax, and get captured quite quickly, just the amount they can do FBT free is set at the same as say the health care profession, which is higher, I think about $25k.

They also have to withhold tax from employees, pay super and workers comp.

If you dont understand the law, please dont comment on it. They still have the same tax obligations towards employees every other business has.

I thought between a high level executive and your lover boy high flying international businessman you would know this.

How do you know that when their books are not open to scrutiny by the ATO ? They are certainly not treated like a normal business is Sad

I wouldn't use you as an accountant.

you sprout things that are utter garbage and claim it to be true. Hillsongs books are OPEN to the public you retard! Same with my church. the ATo DOES audit non-profits as it does every other type of organistaions thatr has a tax liability.

You are one of the least informed posters on here. even prevailing makes more sense than you sometiems and he is (literally) insane.

WHERE IS IT THEN ???

The books are NOT OPEN to the public according to Tanya Levin.

See if you can get the information if it's so publicly available Cheesy

LOL

It should be on their website but it isn't. Why isn't it ??

Quite true Nail -
someone has to stand up for what is right -
certainly not Longweekend - supporting these scam artists -
selling gold passes to heaven - what a croc of sh.t

Back to top

IP Logged

Sir lastnail

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 30089
Gender: male

Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!
Reply #322 - Nov 18^th, 2011 at 10:05pm

Gist wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 6:20pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 18^th, 2011 at 11:35am:

you sprout things that are utter garbage and claim it to be true. Hillsongs books are OPEN to the public you retard! Same with my church. the ATo DOES audit non-profits as it does every other type of organistaions thatr has a tax liability.

You are one of the least informed posters on here. even prevailing makes more sense than you sometiems and he is (literally) insane.

Not exactly. Hillsong claims its books are open to members of its congregation. A subtle difference there. Even so, it's unlikely you'd see the accounts for all the various associated businesses and bodies.

but they still won't disclose it to them. Ask Tanya Levin who was a long time member. Anyone who wants to see the books becomes the problem and they are scorned upon.

What is it that they are hiding if it's not a nice little earner Wink

Back to top

In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

IP Logged

Ex Dame Pansi

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 24168

Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!
Reply #323 - Nov 19^th, 2011 at 6:10am

All you have to do is start asking the pastor some of the more difficult questions and stop fawning over him/her and you are the enemy.

They hate being questioned. If they have nothing to hide, why would they have this reaction? Ask any ex-Christian, they'll tell you the same thing, as soon as you start looking behind the façade they instantly become protective. They should be transparent if their operation is above board.

Just follow sheepishly and tithe generously and they'll love you forever.

No questions.........that's the devil working in you.

Back to top

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Hendrix
andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

IP Logged

Bobby.

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 105333
Melbourne
Gender: male

Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!
Reply #324 - Nov 19^th, 2011 at 8:58am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 6:10am:

All you have to do is start asking the pastor some of the more difficult questions and stop fawning over him/her and you are the enemy.

They hate being questioned. If they have nothing to hide, why would they have this reaction? Ask any ex-Christian, they'll tell you the same thing, as soon as you start looking behind the façade they instantly become protective. They should be transparent if their operation is above board.

Just follow sheepishly and tithe generously and they'll love you forever.

No questions.........that's the devil working in you.

And of course you have to give that money to whatever preacher
is standing in front of you at the time - an alternative "good" cause is not permitted
if you want that gold pass to heaven!

Back to top

IP Logged

Sir lastnail

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 30089
Gender: male

Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!
Reply #325 - Nov 19^th, 2011 at 10:52pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 6:10am:

All you have to do is start asking the pastor some of the more difficult questions and stop fawning over him/her and you are the enemy.

They hate being questioned. If they have nothing to hide, why would they have this reaction? Ask any ex-Christian, they'll tell you the same thing, as soon as you start looking behind the façade they instantly become protective. They should be transparent if their operation is above board.

Just follow sheepishly and tithe generously and they'll love you forever.

No questions.........that's the devil working in you.

It's the typical defensive behaviour of any salesman peddling their wares. Bag their products or lose interest in them and the salesman will soon lose interest in you. Wink

Back to top

In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

IP Logged

Sir lastnail

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 30089
Gender: male

Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!
Reply #326 - Nov 19^th, 2011 at 10:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 8:58am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 6:10am:

All you have to do is start asking the pastor some of the more difficult questions and stop fawning over him/her and you are the enemy.

They hate being questioned. If they have nothing to hide, why would they have this reaction? Ask any ex-Christian, they'll tell you the same thing, as soon as you start looking behind the façade they instantly become protective. They should be transparent if their operation is above board.

Just follow sheepishly and tithe generously and they'll love you forever.

No questions.........that's the devil working in you.

And of course you have to give that money to whatever preacher
is standing in front of you at the time - an alternative "good" cause is not permitted
if you want that gold pass to heaven!

Yes you can't pray at home in private even when the bible says that's what you should do !! The bashers are not satisfied until you go to their parish to listen to their bullshit recital of the bible and drop a bit of coin into the offering plate Wink

Back to top

In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

IP Logged

Bobby.

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 105333
Melbourne
Gender: male

Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!
Reply #327 - Nov 19^th, 2011 at 11:40pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 10:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 8:58am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 6:10am:

All you have to do is start asking the pastor some of the more difficult questions and stop fawning over him/her and you are the enemy.

They hate being questioned. If they have nothing to hide, why would they have this reaction? Ask any ex-Christian, they'll tell you the same thing, as soon as you start looking behind the façade they instantly become protective. They should be transparent if their operation is above board.

Just follow sheepishly and tithe generously and they'll love you forever.

No questions.........that's the devil working in you.

And of course you have to give that money to whatever preacher
is standing in front of you at the time - an alternative "good" cause is not permitted
if you want that gold pass to heaven!

Yes you can't pray at home in private even when the bible says that's what you should do !! The bashers are not satisfied until you go to their parish to listen to their bullshit recital of the bible and drop a bit of coin into the offering plate Wink

Hi Nail,
I think at the Benny Hinn miracle events you get a piece of paper where
you can tick the box for your donation.
The first box is $250, the 2nd $500 & so till amounts like $10,000 pop out.
They are no longer interested in a few pennies.
Where's the box for 50 cents? - that what I'd ask them.
Grin

Back to top

IP Logged

Sir lastnail

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 30089
Gender: male

Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!
Reply #328 - Nov 20^th, 2011 at 10:33am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 11:40pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 10:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 8:58am:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 19^th, 2011 at 6:10am:

All you have to do is start asking the pastor some of the more difficult questions and stop fawning over him/her and you are the enemy.

They hate being questioned. If they have nothing to hide, why would they have this reaction? Ask any ex-Christian, they'll tell you the same thing, as soon as you start looking behind the façade they instantly become protective. They should be transparent if their operation is above board.

Just follow sheepishly and tithe generously and they'll love you forever.

No questions.........that's the devil working in you.

And of course you have to give that money to whatever preacher
is standing in front of you at the time - an alternative "good" cause is not permitted
if you want that gold pass to heaven!

Yes you can't pray at home in private even when the bible says that's what you should do !! The bashers are not satisfied until you go to their parish to listen to their bullshit recital of the bible and drop a bit of coin into the offering plate Wink

Hi Nail,
I think at the Benny Hinn miracle events you get a piece of paper where
you can tick the box for your donation.
The first box is $250, the 2nd $500 & so till amounts like $10,000 pop out.
They are no longer interested in a few pennies.
Where's the box for 50 cents? - that what I'd ask them.
Grin

but it's a seed and you will reap 1000 times what you sow !! Cheesy

LOL

and he always reminds you to put down the expiry date of your card otherwise he don't get the loot Cheesy

Back to top

In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.

IP Logged

Bobby.

Gold Member

Offline

Australian Politics

Posts: 105333
Melbourne
Gender: male

Re: Hillsong – Gods Millionaires that don't pay tax !!
Reply #329 - Nov 20^th, 2011 at 11:09am

Nail,
Quote:

but it's a seed and you will reap 1000 times what you sow !! LOL

and he always reminds you to put down the expiry date of your card otherwise he don't get the loot

Actually Nail - the return ratio is 100x.

You give Benny Hinn $1,000 & within 2 months you'll receive $100,000. Grin

Ohh & by the way don't forget that miracle which you'll get as well!
- you know - the same type that Longweekend gets.

Back to top

IP Logged

Poll
Question: Who is most like Jesus
The Pope Dalai Lama Russel Brand Stephen Fry John Lennon Christine Milne Alexander Putin Leonard Cohen « Created by: Grey on: Nov 13^th, 2011 at 2:12pm »