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Baillieu retains huge lead
Nov 11^th, 2011 at 8:54am

And the latest on "Baillieu-Watch"....

Buzz must have missed this one..

What are they calling the leader of Labor Buzz?
"Mr Who?" isn't it?

TED Baillieu's Coalition government has retained its election-winning lead in Victoria as voters show no sign of embracing Labor in Julia Gillard's home state, the latest Newspoll shows.

Labor's primary vote remains perilously low at 30 per cent - more than six points lower than the November 27 election last year - and just two points higher than the previous Newspoll.

Labor leader Daniel Andrews is failing to woo voters with a 29 per cent satisfaction rating compared with the Premier's 44 per cent.

On the key question of preferred premier, Mr Baillieu - at 56 per cent - is streets ahead of Mr Andrews, who recorded 19 per cent support.

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########## Ex Member	Re: Baillieu retains huge lead Reply #1 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 9:02am So is O'Farrell. Shows me how head, sand, bury the people are. Or are they misinformed? One of the two. Or do people really care about the right things, and issues. Or anything for that matter. Lots to ponder.
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FRED. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3698	Re: Baillieu retains huge lead Reply #2 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 9:09am Quote: So is O'Farrell. Shows me how head, sand, bury the people are. Or are they misinformed? One of the two. Or do people really care about the right things, and issues. Or anything for that matter. Lots to ponder. OFF TOPIC . VICTORIA THE GO AHEAD STATE
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Reply #3 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 10:38am

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So is O'Farrell. Shows me how head, sand, bury the people are. Or are they misinformed? One of the two. Or do people really care about the right things, and issues. Or anything for that matter.

Lots to ponder.

Yes, because the Labor Government that we had in NSW was just amazing. Stable, good, strong, open-minded and very very competent. That's why they won 20 seats at the 2011 election.

You dope.

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Reply #4 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 11:25am

matty wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 10:38am:

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So is O'Farrell. Shows me how head, sand, bury the people are. Or are they misinformed? One of the two. Or do people really care about the right things, and issues. Or anything for that matter.

Lots to ponder.

Yes, because the Labor Government that we had in NSW was just amazing. Stable, good, strong, open-minded and very very competent. That's why they won 20 seats at the 2011 election.

You dope.

well said.

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #5 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 11:41am

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 11:25am:

matty wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 10:38am:

Quote:

So is O'Farrell. Shows me how head, sand, bury the people are. Or are they misinformed? One of the two. Or do people really care about the right things, and issues. Or anything for that matter.

Lots to ponder.

Yes, because the Labor Government that we had in NSW was just amazing. Stable, good, strong, open-minded and very very competent. That's why they won 20 seats at the 2011 election.

You dope.

well said.

Well said, because he calls me I dope?

A dope to me is someone that votes, and puts trust, into a party that has no scrutiny , breaks prominses,as soon as elected, without voters question anything, so it becomes another mess , and then says , that will do, we like you, we will support what ever you do.

If I recall I posted an article that showed that O'Farrells first 100 days were seen as worse than any labor party . But hey blame that on labor, whilst I blame it on he Liberals .

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Reply #6 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 6:28pm

Quote:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 11:25am:

matty wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 10:38am:

Quote:

So is O'Farrell. Shows me how head, sand, bury the people are. Or are they misinformed? One of the two. Or do people really care about the right things, and issues. Or anything for that matter.

Lots to ponder.

Yes, because the Labor Government that we had in NSW was just amazing. Stable, good, strong, open-minded and very very competent. That's why they won 20 seats at the 2011 election.

You dope.

well said.

Well said, because he calls me I dope?

A dope to me is someone that votes, and puts trust, into a party that has no scrutiny , breaks prominses,as soon as elected, without voters question anything, so it becomes another mess , and then says , that will do, we like you, we will support what ever you do.

If I recall I posted an article that showed that O'Farrells first 100 days were seen as worse than any labor party . But hey blame that on labor, whilst I blame it on he Liberals .

thats one thoing about you vegy... you make the very arguments yourself that oppose your position. does the highlighted bit remind you of a recent federal government?? the CURRENT ONE???

talk about making it easy!!!!

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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."

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Reply #7 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 10:13am

Isn't Buzz telling us Baillieu is going a terrible job??

Then again he did start criticising him the FOLLOWING DAY to being elected (and on issues inherited from Brumby).

Seems the more reasonable people of Victoria don't agree with our pink friend.

Better Premier

Baillieu 57
Andrews 19

VIC Primary Vote
Labor 30
Coalition 47

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Reply #8 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 10:22am

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 6:28pm:

Quote:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 11:25am:

matty wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 10:38am:

Quote:

So is O'Farrell. Shows me how head, sand, bury the people are. Or are they misinformed? One of the two. Or do people really care about the right things, and issues. Or anything for that matter.

Lots to ponder.

Yes, because the Labor Government that we had in NSW was just amazing. Stable, good, strong, open-minded and very very competent. That's why they won 20 seats at the 2011 election.

You dope.

well said.

Well said, because he calls me I dope?

A dope to me is someone that votes, and puts trust, into a party that has no scrutiny , breaks prominses,as soon as elected, without voters question anything, so it becomes another mess , and then says , that will do, we like you, we will support what ever you do.

If I recall I posted an article that showed that O'Farrells first 100 days were seen as worse than any labor party . But hey blame that on labor, whilst I blame it on he Liberals .

thats one thoing about you vegy... you make the very arguments yourself that oppose your position. does the highlighted bit remind you of a recent federal government?? the CURRENT ONE???

talk about making it easy!!!!

Satire also makes it easy to show up hypocrites !

btw What are the reasons for the many O'Farrell 'broken promises" ?

I understand Gillard's reasons for. So no need to go there. But O'Farrells needs questioning, dont you think?

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Reply #9 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 10:31am

Quote:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 6:28pm:

Quote:

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 11:25am:

matty wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 10:38am:

Quote:

So is O'Farrell. Shows me how head, sand, bury the people are. Or are they misinformed? One of the two. Or do people really care about the right things, and issues. Or anything for that matter.

Lots to ponder.

Yes, because the Labor Government that we had in NSW was just amazing. Stable, good, strong, open-minded and very very competent. That's why they won 20 seats at the 2011 election.

You dope.

well said.

Well said, because he calls me I dope?

A dope to me is someone that votes, and puts trust, into a party that has no scrutiny , breaks prominses,as soon as elected, without voters question anything, so it becomes another mess , and then says , that will do, we like you, we will support what ever you do.

If I recall I posted an article that showed that O'Farrells first 100 days were seen as worse than any labor party . But hey blame that on labor, whilst I blame it on he Liberals .

thats one thoing about you vegy... you make the very arguments yourself that oppose your position. does the highlighted bit remind you of a recent federal government?? the CURRENT ONE???

talk about making it easy!!!!

Satire also makes it easy to show up hypocrites !

btw What are the reasons for the many O'Farrells 'broken promises" ?

I understand Gillard's reasons for. So no need to go there. But O'Farrells needs questioning, dont you think?

NO YOU DOPE Grin

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Re: Baillieu retains huge lead
Reply #10 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:39am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 10:13am:

Isn't Buzz telling us Baillieu is doing a terrible job??

Then again he did start criticising him the FOLLOWING DAY to being elected (and on issues inherited from Brumby).

And he HIT the nail on the head

State sinking in ocean of debt

November 10, 2011

EVERY Victorian now has their own share of about $10,000 in what is now the State Government's ballooning debt.
The Baillieu Government has also been issued a stern warning about the looming round of public sector wage increases.

Debt has rocketed by $4.4 billion over the past year, and now totals $56 billion.

Auditor-General Des Pearson has warned the state's ability to service that debt is on the wane.

The Budget was held up by an extra $1 billion in taxes and an additional $294 million in water and sewerage charges.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/state-sinking-in-ocean-of-debt/story-...

No escape from 32 new speed cameras

September 03, 2011

MELBOURNE is set to get 32 new speed and red light cameras that will see tens of thousands more motorists booked and earn the State Government an extra $30 million a year.

Police Minister Peter Ryan said yesterday the cameras should be catching drivers before the end of the month at some of the city's busiest intersections, including along Hoddle St, East Melbourne and Warrigal Rd, Chadstone.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/more-news/no-escape-from-32-new-speed-cameras/s...

Tough talk, but Baillieu squibs on teacher pay

March 14, 2011

It was a clear statement, simply put.
''I believe that we must immediately lift the pay of teachers in our school system to not just match levels in other states, but to make our teachers the best paid in the nation. If we want the best and brightest teachers, we're going to have to compete, and we must be prepared to fund realistic salaries.''

That was the policy the state Coalition took to the election. But now, again to use Baillieu's words, that commitment has become ''a commentary that we made in the past''. Faced with delivering on its promise, the government is backing away faster than Charlie Sheen at a teetotallers' convention. Suddenly, anything over 2.5 per cent a year has to be offset by ''commensurate productivity improvements''.

What might these productivity improvements be? The Premier wouldn't say

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/tough-talk-but-baillieu-squibs-on-teac...

Revealed: secret plan to cut nurse numbers

November 6, 2011.

THE Baillieu government has developed a secret plan to goad the state's nurses into industrial action so it can force them into arbitration, cut nurse numbers and replace them at hospital bedsides with low-skilled ''health assistants''.

The secret government document outlines an aggressive approach to achieving its policy - by deliberately frustrating pay negotiations

A cabinet-in-confidence submission, signed by Health Minister David Davis in May and leaked to The Sunday Age, confirms that the government had detailed plans to cut the annual nursing budget by $104 million

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http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/revealed-secret-plan-to-cut-nurse-numbers-2011...

State Politics Public sector growth in Victoria defies audit

November 09, 2011

VICTORIA'S public sector has grown by several thousand full-time staff, defying the alarm bells sounded by the Baillieu government's audit commission about the state's ability to pay wages and fund infrastructure.
State Services Authority data shows that 264,223 people are employed across the public sector, with two-thirds female.

The public sector is so unwieldy that the SSA missed its original deadline to report on staff numbers for 2010-11 because some agencies could not be accounted for.

The cost of hiring staff in Victoria's general government sector will be close to $20 billion in 2011-12, making up 43 per cent of the $47bn budget.

The SSA figures obtained by The Australian show that 264,223 people were on staff at the end of June, up from 261,068 the previous year

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/public-sector-gr...

FAILLIEU
FAILLIEU
FAILLIEU
FAILLIEU

( ... even Murdoch Press have ditched them)

So what ELSE has
Lord Faillieu
acheived in his first year ?

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Reply #11 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 12:42pm

Seems though Buzz that you are, YET AGAIN, in the minority and that most Victorians, like me, feel Baillieu is doing an excellent job and have him as preferred Premier over "Mr Who?" of the VIC Labor Party.

Massive lead as Preferred Premier and massive lead as preferred VIC Government.

Sanity has returned to my home state after a decade of lunacy.

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Reply #12 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 1:36pm

CLEARLY. this poll result is NOT performance driven

The ONLY actions Baillieu has NOT made a total

of, are the things he hasn't touched

The reactions were CLEARLY based on the pollees sentiments of FEDERAL Labor

( ... the figures are almost line and ball with recent federal polls)

What has

Lord Faillieu

done for the Hicks household - should they live in this ( ... in your own words) "SHITHOLE" ?

( ... what do you think of all those new speed cameras - and the projected INCREASE in revenue raising ?)

* ... ONE point, to his credit, he is making an Asian language MANDITORY curriculum in Victorian State schools

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Reply #13 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 2:07pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 11^th, 2011 at 8:54am:

What are they calling the leader of Labor Buzz?
"Mr Who?" isn't it?

The highly regarded, successful, "can do" Bracks/Baillieu team made a serious error of judgement in "throwing in the towel" on the back of this freak, protest vote, outcome

Did ANYONE know just how incompetent this pack of

buffoons and nincompoops

in this venture into

WORK EXPERIENCE

?

Tim Holding is the "heir apparent" as the next Labor Premier of Victoria
He SHOULD be there, at the moment, as Labor Leader
Andrews lacks the "IT" factor - and was put there as an interem leader ( ... ANOTHER dull man wearing spectacles) when no one else wanted the job - a la Brendan Nelson - assuming the LibNats would run more than one term

I HOPE - for the sake of my home state - they "see the light" before EIGHT years of damage is done, over FOUR

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Reply #14 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 2:31pm

Baillieu's wind farm crackdown

August 30, 2011.

THE clean energy industry has warned it will invest away from Victoria, potentially costing the state $3 billion, after the Baillieu government announced Australia's most restrictive planning laws for wind farms.

In a victory for Landscape Guardians and coal mining, the government will amend planning laws to give households power to veto wind turbines within two kilometres of their homes.

Turbines will also be banned in the Macedon and McHarg ranges, in the Yarra Valley, on the Mornington and Bellarine peninsulas, and within five kilometres of the Great Ocean Road and the Bass Coast.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/baillieus-wind-farm-crackdown-20110829-1jig4.h...

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