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Tony Abbott's gaming policy
Nov 11^th, 2011 at 9:39pm

Defiant Malcolm Turnbull taking a gamble over Tony Abbott's gaming policy by: Simon Benson and Patrick Lion From: The Daily Telegraph November 11, 2011 12:00AM

MALCOLM Turnbull is openly defying Opposition Leader Tony Abbott over his new direction on gaming policy.
In a video tribute from anti-gambling advocate Tim Costello posted on Mr Turnbull's website, Mr Costello praises Mr Turnbull for his "leadership" in backing tough reforms on problem gambling.

Only a week after Mr Abbott indicated a Coalition policy would rely heavily on a voluntary pre-commitment scheme, Mr Costello said the measure would not work.

"Problem gamblers just will not do it. Voluntary pre-commitment is a contradiction in terms," Mr Costello said.

Mr Abbott's discussion paper had outlined plans to seek written advice about the feasibility of a national voluntary pre-commitment program.

It followed Mr Turnbull's refusal last month to back his leader's vow to roll back Labor's proposed mandatory pre-commitment technology if the Coalition won government.

Liberal sources said Mr Turnbull's ambition for leadership had not waned, and he was becoming "active" again.

source: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/defiant-malcolm-turnbull-taking-a-gamble-over-tony-abbotts-gaming-policy/story-e6freuzr-1226191935423

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Tony Abbott's gaming policy Reply #1 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 9:39pm knock knock....
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Tony Abbott's gaming policy Reply #2 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 10:08am Murphy said "a fool and his money is soon parted"
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Tony Abbott's gaming policy Reply #4 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 2:23pm James Packer deserves more protection for his money than our pensioners and pokies addicts
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 106958 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Tony Abbott's gaming policy Reply #5 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 2:34pm adelcrow wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 2:23pm: James Packer deserves more protection for his money than our pensioners and pokies addicts http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/bg/Packer+packs+on+the+weight+txgqS_boNpjl.jpg What a disgusting fat body.
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Tony Abbott's gaming policy Reply #6 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 2:39pm He's a pie eating machine
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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Tony Abbott's gaming policy Reply #8 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 2:59pm Uncle wrote on Nov 12^th, 2011 at 2:57pm: Abbott will be really pissed off if he has an abortion. I'll pay that one.
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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Tony Abbott's gaming policy Reply #9 - Nov 12^th, 2011 at 3:07pm
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Reply #11 - Nov 13^th, 2011 at 8:18am

a voluntary pre-commitment scheme

I don't think that this approach is without merit, it could work to some degree.

A bit funny that a major part of the Liberals statements against the mandatory scheme has been that it will not work and now they have re produced the same policy as a watered down version and think it will work?

Makes their previous criticism look a bit dishonest.

Shame that they didn't have this idea when they were in government, it may have worked for many people.

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Reply #12 - Nov 13^th, 2011 at 9:08am

The longer this goes on, the more inclined I am to think that setting betting limits on all machines is the best way to go overall...

I would also argue that all clubs should be obliged to provide a set proportion of $0 money machines - $0 bet, $0 paid - and preferably at $0 cost (or, say $1 or $2 for 5 mins play)! I'm thinking that this proportion should be set at around 10%.

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Tony Abbott's gaming policy Reply #13 - Nov 13^th, 2011 at 9:28am Any business model that succeeds through taking advantage of the most vunerable in our society is a disgrace and needs restrictions placed on it.
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Reply #14 - Nov 13^th, 2011 at 9:29am

Equitist wrote on Nov 13^th, 2011 at 9:08am:

The longer this goes on, the more inclined I am to think that setting betting limits on all machines is the best way to go overall...

I would also argue that all clubs should be obliged to provide a set proportion of $0 money machines - $0 bet, $0 paid - and preferably at $0 cost (or, say $1 or $2 for 5 mins play)! I'm thinking that this proportion should be set at around 10%.

IMO, the demise of the 5c machines was a VERY bad idea.

You could gamble all night, and lose very little.

Of course, winnings weren't high, either.

But, to be able to feed $20 and $50 notes into a machine, then
play multiple lines (at $1 a line) is plain wrong.

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