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olde.sault

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Gays and marriage
Nov 14^th, 2011 at 5:52am

The IrRev. Bill Cruise had a fight on his hands last night on 2GB, he, all for gay being permitted to marry and most callers totally against this.

The objectors couldn't satisfactorily explain why they were anti so I'll do that for them.

As gays destroyed the word "gay" (no synonym quite covers its one-time meaning) so they'll trash the real meaning of "marriage".

No reason why they shouldn't be given rights to some ceremony but it'll have to have a different name.

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Reply #1 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 7:16am

come on saulty just think they will also have the divorce court to face as well..like it or not marriage is just a piece of paper it takes two people to make it work. I have been a widow for 22 years now and there isnt a day I dont miss him..dont begrudge someone else if they are lucky enough to meet Mr or Ms right. the sanctity of marriage. love is getting shorter in supply these days. we should encourage it.

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Reply #2 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 8:01am

cods wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 7:16am:

come on saulty just think they will also have the divorce court to face as well..like it or not marriage is just a piece of paper it takes two people to make it work. I have been a widow for 22 years now and there isnt a day I dont miss him..dont begrudge someone else if they are lucky enough to meet Mr or Ms right. the sanctity of marriage. love is getting shorter in supply these days. we should encourage it.

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Glad that you had a happy marriage. I hadn't for my man was an incorrigible womaniser so I was glad when eventually, I swept him out the door with the other rubbish!

To my subject:

Todays gays, like Olive Twist, keep demanding "more".

I know most of them are born, not made, and am horrified as to how they were jailed in the past (thinking about Oscar Wilde)

- that said, they are getting noisier and noisier. . .

I really preferred them when they romped in closets or practised celibacy (as many heterosexuals do without noise)

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OS

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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Gays and marriage Reply #3 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 8:04am sigh sigh
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Reply #4 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 8:23am

olde.sault wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 8:01am:

cods wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 7:16am:

come on saulty just think they will also have the divorce court to face as well..like it or not marriage is just a piece of paper it takes two people to make it work. I have been a widow for 22 years now and there isnt a day I dont miss him..dont begrudge someone else if they are lucky enough to meet Mr or Ms right. the sanctity of marriage. love is getting shorter in supply these days. we should encourage it.

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Glad that you had a happy marriage. I hadn't for my man was an incorrigible womaniser so I was glad when eventually, I swept him out the door with the other rubbish!

To my subject:

Todays gays, like Olive Twist, keep demanding "more".

I know most of them are born, not made, and am horrified as to how they were jailed in the past (thinking about Oscar Wilde)

- that said, they are getting noisier and noisier. . .

I really preferred them when they romped in closets or practised celibacy (as many heterosexuals do without noise)

Regards!

OS

well at least you are honest..have to admit I am over the Mardi Gras stuff.. but apart from that...I dont begrudge anyone being happy and if being married makes them happy so be it.

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Gist Gold Member Offline I am not a sock, I am a human being! Posts: 5476	Re: Gays and marriage Reply #5 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 8:39am I fail to understand how it affects either of you. You're not planning to marry one are you? Please explain.
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Reply #6 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 8:40am

Gist wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 8:39am:

I fail to understand how it affects either of you. You're not planning to marry one are you? Please explain.

Gist, she's worried about preserving the integrity of the word 'marriage' even after it has been pillaged for years by celebrity marriage and divorce rates higher than success rates.

but she totally makes sense - as always Grin

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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14198 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Gays and marriage Reply #7 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 9:58am olde.sault wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 8:01am: To my subject: Todays gays, like Olive Twist, keep demanding "more". EQUALITY ? How DARE they !
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Gays and marriage Reply #8 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 10:02am Actually Buzz, you'll find that in Australia now, you have pretty much the same rights as I do. In regards rights, you have the same as a de-facto legal couple. Let's not go painting the wrong picture here.
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sir prince duke alevine Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23619 Gender:	Re: Gays and marriage Reply #9 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 10:07am Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 10:02am: Actually Buzz, you'll find that in Australia now, you have pretty much the same rights as I do. In regards rights, you have the same as a de-facto legal couple. Let's not go painting the wrong picture here. Yes who still don't hold the same property rights as a married couple.
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Reply #10 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:22am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 10:07am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 10:02am:

Actually Buzz, you'll find that in Australia now, you have pretty much the same rights as I do.

In regards rights, you have the same as a de-facto legal couple.

Let's not go painting the wrong picture here.

Yes who still don't hold the same property rights as a married couple.

so write a will.

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Reply #11 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:25am

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:22am:

so write a will.

Wesss!! My bigoted friend!!! I missed ya sooo much

The problem is not to do with death, but to do with status of ownership during living. So it's not about gay people writing wills.

But I don't expect someone of your bigoted status to appreciate this difference. Carry on

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Reply #12 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:27am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:25am:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:22am:

so write a will.

Wesss!! My bigoted friend!!! I missed ya sooo much

The problem is not to do with death, but to do with status of ownership during living. So it's not about gay people writing wills.

But I don't expect someone of your bigoted status to appreciate this difference. Carry on

So what is the problem? Tell me, and I will offer a solution.

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Reply #13 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:34am

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:27am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:25am:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:22am:

so write a will.

Wesss!! My bigoted friend!!! I missed ya sooo much

The problem is not to do with death, but to do with status of ownership during living. So it's not about gay people writing wills.

But I don't expect someone of your bigoted status to appreciate this difference. Carry on

So what is the problem? Tell me, and I will offer a solution.

You've already tried and resulted in an epic fail. The problem is that under marriage, property, assets all come under joint ownership. Under defacto, they don't.

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Reply #14 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:38am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:34am:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:27am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:25am:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:22am:

so write a will.

Wesss!! My bigoted friend!!! I missed ya sooo much

The problem is not to do with death, but to do with status of ownership during living. So it's not about gay people writing wills.

But I don't expect someone of your bigoted status to appreciate this difference. Carry on

So what is the problem? Tell me, and I will offer a solution.

You've already tried and resulted in an epic fail. The problem is that under marriage, property, assets all come under joint ownership. Under defacto, they don't.

Is that code for "well theres not really a problem as such, but I will allude that there is in order to make it sound as though there is a convincing argument for gay marriage."

Just write a damn will.

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