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Reply #15 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:39am

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sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:34am:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:27am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:25am:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:22am:

so write a will.

Wesss!! My bigoted friend!!! I missed ya sooo much

The problem is not to do with death, but to do with status of ownership during living. So it's not about gay people writing wills.

But I don't expect someone of your bigoted status to appreciate this difference. Carry on

So what is the problem? Tell me, and I will offer a solution.

You've already tried and resulted in an epic fail. The problem is that under marriage, property, assets all come under joint ownership. Under defacto, they don't.

Is that code for "well theres not really a problem as such, but I will allude that there is in order to make it sound as though there is a convincing argument for gay marriage."

Just write a damn will.

I've already told you, it is not just in regard to ownership after death.

and I believe overall that it's more about getting a convincing argument against gay marriage, opposed to a convincing argument for it. Grin

But you can keep trying your nonsense if you like Wink

I do recall that you have a varied view on this matter.

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Reply #16 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:42am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:39am:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:38am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:34am:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:27am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:25am:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:22am:

so write a will.

Wesss!! My bigoted friend!!! I missed ya sooo much

The problem is not to do with death, but to do with status of ownership during living. So it's not about gay people writing wills.

But I don't expect someone of your bigoted status to appreciate this difference. Carry on

So what is the problem? Tell me, and I will offer a solution.

You've already tried and resulted in an epic fail. The problem is that under marriage, property, assets all come under joint ownership. Under defacto, they don't.

Is that code for "well theres not really a problem as such, but I will allude that there is in order to make it sound as though there is a convincing argument for gay marriage."

Just write a damn will.

I've already told you, it is not just in regard to ownership after death.

and I believe overall that it's more about getting a convincing argument against gay marriage, opposed to a convincing argument for it. Grin

But you can keep trying your nonsense if you like Wink

I do recall that you have a varied view on this matter.

So how do these 'property laws' create a problem?

Share with me your wisdom oh alevine, so that I may see the error of my ways. Or not.

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Reply #17 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:47am

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So how do these 'property laws' create a problem?

Share with me your wisdom oh alevine, so that I may see the error of my ways. Or not.

1. With regard to divorce.
2. With regard to taking over liability.
3. the notion of having equal share.

I don't think you'll ever see the error of your ways. But it's hilarious to read your deluded views

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Reply #18 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:54am

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:47am:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:42am:

So how do these 'property laws' create a problem?

Share with me your wisdom oh alevine, so that I may see the error of my ways. Or not.

1. With regard to divorce.
2. With regard to taking over liability.
3. the notion of having equal share.

I don't think you'll ever see the error of your ways. But it's hilarious to read your deluded views

Could you please elaborate further? Maybe I'm just a bit slow, or maybe you've simply put up some vague, meaningless statements in the hope that you can bluff your way out.

I'm calling your bluff - what's the problem?

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Reply #20 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:58am

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 10:02am:

Actually Buzz, you'll find that in Australia now, you have pretty much the same rights as I do.

Equality and "pretty much the same rights" are NOT one in the same

There is no equality in property settlement on separation
There is no equality on inheritance - when one partner dies intestate
( ... claims can be contested by families of the deceased - with all too frequent success)

Mixed marriages have no problem

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Reply #21 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:59am

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:54am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:47am:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:42am:

So how do these 'property laws' create a problem?

Share with me your wisdom oh alevine, so that I may see the error of my ways. Or not.

1. With regard to divorce.
2. With regard to taking over liability.
3. the notion of having equal share.

I don't think you'll ever see the error of your ways. But it's hilarious to read your deluded views

Could you please elaborate further? Maybe I'm just a bit slow, or maybe you've simply put up some vague, meaningless statements in the hope that you can bluff your way out.

I'm calling your bluff - what's the problem?

I'd say you're a little slow.

Go over it again, and use your index finger to point to the words. Spell them out, and you should get there...eventually Grin

If you really need elaboration then you are severely void of individual thinking and processing. Sad.

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Reply #22 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 12:02pm

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There is no equality in property settlement on separation

Work it out amongst yourselves - are you children?

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There is no equality on inheritance - when one partner dies intestate

So write a will.

There, less than 1 minute thought, 2 problems solved. Oh and look, it's only 10am - Anyone else have any other 'insurmountable challenges' they need solving before lunchtime?

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Reply #23 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 12:03pm

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:59am:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:54am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:47am:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:42am:

So how do these 'property laws' create a problem?

Share with me your wisdom oh alevine, so that I may see the error of my ways. Or not.

1. With regard to divorce.
2. With regard to taking over liability.
3. the notion of having equal share.

I don't think you'll ever see the error of your ways. But it's hilarious to read your deluded views

Could you please elaborate further? Maybe I'm just a bit slow, or maybe you've simply put up some vague, meaningless statements in the hope that you can bluff your way out.

I'm calling your bluff - what's the problem?

I'd say you're a little slow.

Go over it again, and use your index finger to point to the words. Spell them out, and you should get there...eventually Grin

If you really need elaboration then you are severely void of individual thinking and processing. Sad.

Bluff called succesfully.

You fold, I take the pot.

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Reply #24 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 12:04pm

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 12:03pm:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:59am:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:54am:

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:47am:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 11:42am:

So how do these 'property laws' create a problem?

Share with me your wisdom oh alevine, so that I may see the error of my ways. Or not.

1. With regard to divorce.
2. With regard to taking over liability.
3. the notion of having equal share.

I don't think you'll ever see the error of your ways. But it's hilarious to read your deluded views

Could you please elaborate further? Maybe I'm just a bit slow, or maybe you've simply put up some vague, meaningless statements in the hope that you can bluff your way out.

I'm calling your bluff - what's the problem?

I'd say you're a little slow.

Go over it again, and use your index finger to point to the words. Spell them out, and you should get there...eventually Grin

If you really need elaboration then you are severely void of individual thinking and processing. Sad.

Bluff called succesfully.

You fold, I take the pot.

If you say so Grin

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Reply #26 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 12:16pm

olde.sault wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 5:52am:

The IrRev. Bill Cruise had a fight on his hands last night on 2GB, he, all for gay being permitted to marry and most callers totally against this.

The objectors couldn't satisfactorily explain why they were anti so I'll do that for them.

As gays destroyed the word "gay" (no synonym quite covers its one-time meaning) so they'll trash the real meaning of "marriage".

No reason why they shouldn't be given rights to some ceremony but it'll have to have a different name.

Exactly right. Gay marriage is an abomination unto the Lord, and makes a mockey of values, decency and overall mankind.

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Reply #27 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 12:18pm

Gist wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 12:13pm:

... wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 12:02pm:

There, less than 1 minute thought, 2 problems solved. Oh and look, it's only 10am - Anyone else have any other 'insurmountable challenges' they need solving before lunchtime?

Well... you haven't addressed the equity issue.

No need to - it's the same situation as for defacto relationships.

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Reply #28 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 12:18pm

matty wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 12:16pm:

olde.sault wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 5:52am:

The IrRev. Bill Cruise had a fight on his hands last night on 2GB, he, all for gay being permitted to marry and most callers totally against this.

The objectors couldn't satisfactorily explain why they were anti so I'll do that for them.

As gays destroyed the word "gay" (no synonym quite covers its one-time meaning) so they'll trash the real meaning of "marriage".

No reason why they shouldn't be given rights to some ceremony but it'll have to have a different name.

Exactly right. Gay marriage is an abomnation unto the Lord, and makes a mockey of values, decency and overall mankind.

What a load of crap,here's a tip, simple one, there is no god.

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Reply #29 - Nov 14^th, 2011 at 12:22pm

matty wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 12:16pm:

olde.sault wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 5:52am:

The IrRev. Bill Cruise had a fight on his hands last night on 2GB, he, all for gay being permitted to marry and most callers totally against this.

The objectors couldn't satisfactorily explain why they were anti so I'll do that for them.

As gays destroyed the word "gay" (no synonym quite covers its one-time meaning) so they'll trash the real meaning of "marriage".

No reason why they shouldn't be given rights to some ceremony but it'll have to have a different name.

Exactly right. Gay marriage is an abomnation unto the Lord, and makes a mockey of values, decency and overall mankind.

Are you saying that Allen, your hero, is an abomination?

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