Kat wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 4:16pm:




are you saying there wont be another stimulus?....bugger.

cods wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 4:35pm:


Q: How many recorded Cannabis linked deaths worldwide?
A: Zero

That's right, there has never been a recorded cannabis related death.

Cocaine is still used medicinally today.
Opium derived drugs are still used medicinally today.
Cannabis derived drugs have been reintroduced and continue to be used medicinally today.  Google Marinol and Sativex; ironically used to treat the very personality disorders the lobby groups have been trying to suggest cannabis is responsible for the last 5 or 6 decades.

I actually use Cannabis for the treatment of severe pain due a spinal injury; it's either that or be perpetually addicted to morphine; No Thanks.

You would do well to research what they are actually saying today Cods, which is pretty much what they were saying back then prior to the likes of Merck and Dupont poo canning the whole hemp industry.

Cannabis is a plant and can not be patented, hence the complete lack of interest from the pharmaceutical industry.

It's a bloody crime that it's been outlawed as long as it has and millions have suffered the consequences.

It's a bloody crime that alcohol & tobacco remain illegal whilst Cannabis and other drugs remain a crime.

Smoking kills more people in the United States each year than car accidents, alcohol, AIDS,
murders, illegal drugs and suicides combined.

When you look at the stats on a cigarette packet in relation to deaths in Australia, you will see that deaths from illicit drugs (all of them) is a tiny fraction of the total.  Cigarettes are responsible for 40 preventable deaths per DAY!

Have a look into the effects of decriminalisation of all drugs in Portugal; use has plummeted.

Feel free to perpetuate your ignorance if you wish, but you should really educate yourself a little in this regard.

Maqqa wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 6:45am:


Sounds like BS to me.

cods wrote on Nov 15^th, 2011 at 8:32pm:


Cods, I would donate you my kidneys if you didn't receive a therapeutic benefit from ingestion of cannibinoids, particularly CBD one of the non psychoactive cannibinoids found in largest quantities in leaf and Cannabis Indica.  You needn't smoke it, and in fact shouldn't smoke the leaf; the concentration of chlorophyll will just give you a headache.  The best form of ingestion for a therapeutic use is a concentration otherwise known as hash oil, extracted from leaf and buds (flowers) via a number of methods, ice or solvent extraction is probably the purest.  A dose about the size of a pea before bed time and you'd wake up fresh as a daisy.  Another method is to bake it in a recipe that requires a low heat, or make a cannabis butter; cannibinoids are fat soluble.

I wouldn't recommend driving or operating machinery whilst under the influence of anything potentially psychoactive and cannabis, especially in the concentration required to be therapeutic, is no different.

I would suggest there is more than a coincidental link between Cannabis having therapeutic properties and the location of cannibinoid receptors in Haematopoietic stem cells (cells responsible for regeneration and repair).  

Cannabis Indica prepared in any of the above manners is best suited to pain relief and physical ailments.

Cannabis Sativa is better suited to conditions such as anxiety, depression, etc, otherwise treated with Benzodiazepams. Benzo is derived from Benzene, a natural constituent of crude oil, and is one of the most basic petrochemicals.  Frankly I'd take my chances with a little of your smoking joe if you don't mind.

The sad fact is, there's no money in it and therefore is not pursued by big pharma, who require a return on investment and also stand to lose a fortune on patented drugs used for similar purposes.   Consequently there is no study into appropriate dosage rates to treat everything from a toothache to cancer, if not the tumours themselves the pain management and the resultant loss of appetite.

Do I condone the abuse of any drug, no.  Do I condone anyone being denied their therapeutic or recreational use? Hell no.

Do I think we should treat it as a medical issue and not a crime; absolutely.  The war on drugs isn't working, they close down one operation and another pops up to replace it.

Heroin is an insidious drug as are most if not all of the amphetamines, with the exception of pure MDMA, but even that should be consumed very occasionally.  Heroin causes significant social issues as its apparently, I would never touch the stuff so will never know, instantly addictive and being as dear as poison often results in petty or violent crimes; they say it's only a problem if you can't afford it.

LSD will certainly exacerbate any underlying mental conditions and could certainly create some new ones, but in a controlled environment and dosage is relatively harmless.

Cocaine is too expensive to be a widespread problem, overdose rates are very low.

In the scheme of things good ole cannabis is harmless and should be decriminalised and be available as a prescription medicine as it once was.

It was first discovered in 1975 that Cannibinoids kill cancer cells, there's the real crime.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16908594

This subject should receive significant public debate.

The two drugs responsible for the most deaths are tobacco and alcohol.

Water is toxic in sufficient concentration as is oxygen!

Maqqa wrote on Nov 14^th, 2011 at 6:45am:



Are these the strugglers who cheered when Rudd was elected and Howard was booted out of his electorate?

Talking of Howard being booted out, what is that teeth and leg-flashing  Maxine doing these days?

Didn't shine long, did she?

cods wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 7:33am:


1. You've clearly never encountered anyone with a skin full of Rum cods.  Pot won't make anyone feel 10 feet tall, amphetamines will, especially cocaine.

It's not a case of two wrongs make a right; in any case it would be a case of several hundred thousand wrongs in the case of alcohol.  I was merely pointing out the obvious flaw in Grey's argument.  Anything that impairs ones ability to operate machinery should be avoided prior to doing so. 

2. All drugs should be decriminalised, harsh penalties for commercial quantities.  Prohibition is pointless.

How long do you think it will take the Government to drive down our wages and living conditions to third world parity and make our social security system as sick as the USA?

longy....this is not politics, please be consistent across the board.