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Reply #15 - Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:27am

Gist wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:23am:

You right wing loonies are certainly making asses of yourselves as usual. Maybe you'd like to blame Europe's troubles on the government? There's an asteroid may hit earth sometime in the next 100 years. Maybe that's the government's fault? Please do try to spend some time on this planet occasionally, won't you.

Cods, you ask why I sneer. It's because you make idiots of yourselves.

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Reply #16 - Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:32am

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:25am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 8:43am:

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the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.

All nicely subsidised by the Australian taxpayer; solar power is a very expensive freebie indeed, especially for those who are too poor to afford it, as they are paying extra for those that can.

I do love how lefties hate anyone being subsidied for anything, unless it is themselves of course. Grin

bigol I do n ot believe in the word FREE no such thing... someone is paying of course they are.. and nobody works for nothing do they?..unless RE is all run by volunteers... havent heard about that though..

dont know about you but my last power bill read something like $168 but I only used $20 worth of power..it doesnt matter how much i backpeddle on using power the bill will never diminish I think thats why they make the bill so hard to read now...lol..keep us in the dark so to speak..

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Reply #17 - Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:35am

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:25am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 8:43am:

cods wrote- Quote:

the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.

All nicely subsidised by the Australian taxpayer; solar power is a very expensive freebie indeed, especially for those who are too poor to afford it, as they are paying extra for those that can.

I do love how lefties hate anyone being subsidied for anything, unless it is themselves of course. Grin

Yep ,subsidised just like private health funds, that Howard introduced. In fact when I got my solar it was subsidised too, by HOWARD.
Most companies offer interest free loans for solar, and its not just the well off that can afford it, from my observations its the whiny little rightards that have not been successful in life that whine the loudest.

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Re: Power cut-off from the poor
Reply #18 - Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:51am

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:25am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 8:43am:

cods wrote- Quote:

the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.

All nicely subsidised by the Australian taxpayer; solar power is a very expensive freebie indeed, especially for those who are too poor to afford it, as they are paying extra for those that can.

I do love how lefties hate anyone being subsidied for anything, unless it is themselves of course. Grin

I think you will find the subsidy isn't what it was 12 months ago bigol as the government have gone over to a 'solar credit' scheme.
And I would suggest that there was no government subsidy at all when Skip got his installed way back when.

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Reply #19 - Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:56am

cods wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:27am:

Gist wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:23am:

You right wing loonies are certainly making asses of yourselves as usual. Maybe you'd like to blame Europe's troubles on the government? There's an asteroid may hit earth sometime in the next 100 years. Maybe that's the government's fault? Please do try to spend some time on this planet occasionally, won't you.

Cods, you ask why I sneer. It's because you make idiots of yourselves.

really!

Yes. So smarten up your act, the lot of you. It's like a creche full of brats in here.

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Reply #20 - Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:58am

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:35am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:25am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 8:43am:

cods wrote- Quote:

the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.

All nicely subsidised by the Australian taxpayer; solar power is a very expensive freebie indeed, especially for those who are too poor to afford it, as they are paying extra for those that can.

I do love how lefties hate anyone being subsidied for anything, unless it is themselves of course. Grin

Yep ,subsidised just like private health funds, that Howard introduced. In fact when I got my solar it was subsidised too, by HOWARD.
Most companies offer interest free loans for solar, and its not just the well off that can afford it, from my observations its the whiny little rightards that have not been successful in life that whine the loudest.

Unless they're 'well off' enough to own their home, it doesn't matter whetehr they can afford the panels or not. Nobody is going to put solar panels on a rental.

But why should I care - I already gots mine

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Reply #21 - Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:59am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:51am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:25am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 8:43am:

cods wrote- Quote:

the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.

All nicely subsidised by the Australian taxpayer; solar power is a very expensive freebie indeed, especially for those who are too poor to afford it, as they are paying extra for those that can.

I do love how lefties hate anyone being subsidied for anything, unless it is themselves of course. Grin

I think you will find the subsidy isn't what it was 12 months ago bigol as the government have gone over to a 'solar credit' scheme.
And I would suggest that there was no government subsidy at all when Skip got his installed way back when.

Not true chook. It was much more expensive, but I got 12 grands worth of solar for 6 grand in those days, the same set up today would only cost 3 grand.
If I'd been in QLD I'd have got much more of a rebate, the QLD state gov were also offering rebates where as I only got a federal rebate from the good old lying little rodent.

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Reply #22 - Nov 16^th, 2011 at 10:03am

... wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:58am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:35am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:25am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 8:43am:

cods wrote- Quote:

the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.

All nicely subsidised by the Australian taxpayer; solar power is a very expensive freebie indeed, especially for those who are too poor to afford it, as they are paying extra for those that can.

I do love how lefties hate anyone being subsidied for anything, unless it is themselves of course. Grin

Yep ,subsidised just like private health funds, that Howard introduced. In fact when I got my solar it was subsidised too, by HOWARD.
Most companies offer interest free loans for solar, and its not just the well off that can afford it, from my observations its the whiny little rightards that have not been successful in life that whine the loudest.

Unless they're 'well off' enough to own their home, it doesn't matter whetehr they can afford the panels or not. Nobody is going to put solar panels on a rental.

But why should I care - I already gots mine

Are you claiming you need to be 'well off' to have a mortgage now??
I live on the far north coast of NSW, near Byron, and yes prices are a bit pricey around here, but 30 minutes in land is the largest city on the far north coast,and you can buy a house there for 200 hundred grand, hardly expensive.

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Reply #23 - Nov 16^th, 2011 at 10:06am

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 10:03am:

... wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:58am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:35am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:25am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 8:43am:

cods wrote- Quote:

the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.

All nicely subsidised by the Australian taxpayer; solar power is a very expensive freebie indeed, especially for those who are too poor to afford it, as they are paying extra for those that can.

I do love how lefties hate anyone being subsidied for anything, unless it is themselves of course. Grin

Yep ,subsidised just like private health funds, that Howard introduced. In fact when I got my solar it was subsidised too, by HOWARD.
Most companies offer interest free loans for solar, and its not just the well off that can afford it, from my observations its the whiny little rightards that have not been successful in life that whine the loudest.

Unless they're 'well off' enough to own their home, it doesn't matter whetehr they can afford the panels or not. Nobody is going to put solar panels on a rental.

But why should I care - I already gots mine

Are you claiming you need to be 'well off' to have a mortgage now??
I live on the far north coast of NSW, near Byron, and yes prices are a bit pricey around here, but 30 minutes in land is the largest city on the far north coast,and you can buy a house there for 200 hundred grand, hardly expensive.

Depends how you define 'well-off'. I'd put 'well off' as midway between 'battlers' and 'wealthy'.

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Reply #24 - Nov 16^th, 2011 at 10:07am

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:59am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:51am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:25am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 8:43am:

cods wrote- Quote:

the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.

All nicely subsidised by the Australian taxpayer; solar power is a very expensive freebie indeed, especially for those who are too poor to afford it, as they are paying extra for those that can.

I do love how lefties hate anyone being subsidied for anything, unless it is themselves of course. Grin

I think you will find the subsidy isn't what it was 12 months ago bigol as the government have gone over to a 'solar credit' scheme.
And I would suggest that there was no government subsidy at all when Skip got his installed way back when.

Not true chook. It was much more expensive, but I got 12 grands worth of solar for 6 grand in those days, the same set up today would only cost 3 grand.
If I'd been in QLD I'd have got much more of a rebate, the QLD state gov were also offering rebates where as I only got a federal rebate from the good old lying little rodent.

There have been rebates that long? I didn't know that.
Either way, the rebates are unfortunately nothing what they used to be, even taking into account the technology was more expensive back then.
Has your set up been reliable over the last nine years?

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Reply #25 - Nov 16^th, 2011 at 10:09am

... wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 10:06am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 10:03am:

... wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:58am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:35am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:25am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 8:43am:

cods wrote- Quote:

the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.

All nicely subsidised by the Australian taxpayer; solar power is a very expensive freebie indeed, especially for those who are too poor to afford it, as they are paying extra for those that can.

I do love how lefties hate anyone being subsidied for anything, unless it is themselves of course. Grin

Yep ,subsidised just like private health funds, that Howard introduced. In fact when I got my solar it was subsidised too, by HOWARD.
Most companies offer interest free loans for solar, and its not just the well off that can afford it, from my observations its the whiny little rightards that have not been successful in life that whine the loudest.

Unless they're 'well off' enough to own their home, it doesn't matter whetehr they can afford the panels or not. Nobody is going to put solar panels on a rental.

But why should I care - I already gots mine

Are you claiming you need to be 'well off' to have a mortgage now??
I live on the far north coast of NSW, near Byron, and yes prices are a bit pricey around here, but 30 minutes in land is the largest city on the far north coast,and you can buy a house there for 200 hundred grand, hardly expensive.

Depends how you define 'well-off'. I'd put 'well off' as midway between 'battlers' and 'wealthy'.

So you don't need to be well off to have a mortgage do you?? even western Sydney would be affordable for most people, its just a whole to live in.

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Reply #26 - Nov 16^th, 2011 at 10:12am

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 10:09am:

... wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 10:06am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 10:03am:

... wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:58am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:35am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:25am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 8:43am:

cods wrote- Quote:

the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.

All nicely subsidised by the Australian taxpayer; solar power is a very expensive freebie indeed, especially for those who are too poor to afford it, as they are paying extra for those that can.

I do love how lefties hate anyone being subsidied for anything, unless it is themselves of course. Grin

Yep ,subsidised just like private health funds, that Howard introduced. In fact when I got my solar it was subsidised too, by HOWARD.
Most companies offer interest free loans for solar, and its not just the well off that can afford it, from my observations its the whiny little rightards that have not been successful in life that whine the loudest.

Unless they're 'well off' enough to own their home, it doesn't matter whetehr they can afford the panels or not. Nobody is going to put solar panels on a rental.

But why should I care - I already gots mine

Are you claiming you need to be 'well off' to have a mortgage now??
I live on the far north coast of NSW, near Byron, and yes prices are a bit pricey around here, but 30 minutes in land is the largest city on the far north coast,and you can buy a house there for 200 hundred grand, hardly expensive.

Depends how you define 'well-off'. I'd put 'well off' as midway between 'battlers' and 'wealthy'.

So you don't need to be well off to have a mortgage do you?? even western Sydney would be affordable for most people, its just a whole to live in.

Yes, most do need to be well off to have a mortgage AND have the spare cash for a solar set up. I might remind you that while house prices might be cheap in woopwoop, most people live in capital or major cities, where they're not so cheap.

Are you really so petty as to make an argument out of this?

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Reply #27 - Nov 16^th, 2011 at 10:13am

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:35am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:25am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 8:43am:

cods wrote- Quote:

the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.

Howard didn't subsidise sh1t, it was the Australian taxpayer that paied for your free electricity and is now paying your brother.

All nicely subsidised by the Australian taxpayer; solar power is a very expensive freebie indeed, especially for those who are too poor to afford it, as they are paying extra for those that can.

I do love how lefties hate anyone being subsidied for anything, unless it is themselves of course. Grin

Yep ,subsidised just like private health funds, that Howard introduced. In fact when I got my solar it was subsidised too, by HOWARD.
Most companies offer interest free loans for solar, and its not just the well off that can afford it, from my observations its the whiny little rightards that have not been successful in life that whine the loudest.

Howard didn't subsidise jack, the Australian taxpayer paid for everything and are continuing to pay for your 'free' electricity.

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Reply #28 - Nov 16^th, 2011 at 10:16am

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 10:07am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:59am:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:51am:

BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 9:25am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 16^th, 2011 at 8:43am:

cods wrote- Quote:

the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.

All nicely subsidised by the Australian taxpayer; solar power is a very expensive freebie indeed, especially for those who are too poor to afford it, as they are paying extra for those that can.

I do love how lefties hate anyone being subsidied for anything, unless it is themselves of course. Grin

I think you will find the subsidy isn't what it was 12 months ago bigol as the government have gone over to a 'solar credit' scheme.
And I would suggest that there was no government subsidy at all when Skip got his installed way back when.

Not true chook. It was much more expensive, but I got 12 grands worth of solar for 6 grand in those days, the same set up today would only cost 3 grand.
If I'd been in QLD I'd have got much more of a rebate, the QLD state gov were also offering rebates where as I only got a federal rebate from the good old lying little rodent.

There have been rebates that long? I didn't know that.
Either way, the rebates are unfortunately nothing what they used to be, even taking into account the technology was more expensive back then.
Has your set up been reliable over the last nine years?

Yea, I'm happy with it, the panels have a 25 year warranty, so I suppose I'll see in the next few years how good they are, but to be honest, the rebates are still so good that if my panels died I'd definitely get more, its a no brainer when you look at the price of electricity, 2 years worth of bills would pay for a 2 or 3 kws of power. I even noticed in my local paper that a local air co company is now advertising solar panel operated air co, with rebates to boot.

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Reply #29 - Nov 16^th, 2011 at 10:19am

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