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Reply #30 - Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:21am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:13am:
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the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.




Howard didn't subsidise sh1t, it was the Australian taxpayer that paied for your free electricity and is now paying your brother.



All nicely subsidised by the Australian taxpayer; solar power is a very expensive freebie indeed, especially for those who are too poor to afford it, as they are paying extra for those that can.

I do love how lefties hate anyone being subsidied for anything, unless it is themselves of course.  Grin


Yep ,subsidised just like private health funds, that Howard introduced. In fact when I got my solar it was subsidised too, by HOWARD.
Most companies offer interest free loans for solar, and its not just the well off that can afford it, from my observations its the whiny little rightards that have not been successful in life that whine the loudest.



Howard didn't subsidise jack, the Australian taxpayer paid for everything and are continuing to pay for your 'free' electricity.


As they are  health care, a Liberal policy, no less.
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Reply #31 - Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:29am
 
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skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:09am:
... wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:06am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:03am:
... wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:58am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:35am:
BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:25am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:43am:
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the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.




All nicely subsidised by the Australian taxpayer; solar power is a very expensive freebie indeed, especially for those who are too poor to afford it, as they are paying extra for those that can.

I do love how lefties hate anyone being subsidied for anything, unless it is themselves of course.  Grin


Yep ,subsidised just like private health funds, that Howard introduced. In fact when I got my solar it was subsidised too, by HOWARD.
Most companies offer interest free loans for solar, and its not just the well off that can afford it, from my observations its the whiny little rightards that have not been successful in life that whine the loudest.



Unless they're 'well off' enough to own their home, it doesn't matter whetehr they can afford the panels or not.  Nobody is going to put solar panels on a rental.

But why should I care - I already gots mine

Are you claiming you need to be 'well off' to have a mortgage now??
I live on the far north coast of NSW, near Byron, and yes prices are a bit pricey around here, but 30 minutes in land is the largest city on the far north coast,and you can buy a house there for 200 hundred grand, hardly expensive.



Depends how you define 'well-off'.  I'd put 'well off' as midway between 'battlers' and 'wealthy'.

So you don't need to be well off to have a mortgage do you?? even western Sydney would be affordable for most people, its just a whole to live in.



Yes, most do need to be well off to have a mortgage AND have the spare cash for a solar set up.  I might remind you that while house prices might be cheap in woopwoop, most people live in capital or major cities, where they're not so cheap.

Are you really so petty as to make an argument out of this?

I thought western Sydney was in a capital city, please explain??? look at the prices around Cambeltown and Green valley, then get back to us, I bet a mortgage would be comparable to rent in many of those places.


I live in Perth so I don't know, or care, about house prices in some suburbs of Sydney.  There's usually a reason why prices are much cheaper in one area than another.
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Reply #32 - Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:32am
 
... wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:29am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:19am:
... wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:12am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:09am:
... wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:06am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:03am:
... wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:58am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:35am:
BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:25am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:43am:
cods wrote- Quote:
the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.




All nicely subsidised by the Australian taxpayer; solar power is a very expensive freebie indeed, especially for those who are too poor to afford it, as they are paying extra for those that can.

I do love how lefties hate anyone being subsidied for anything, unless it is themselves of course.  Grin


Yep ,subsidised just like private health funds, that Howard introduced. In fact when I got my solar it was subsidised too, by HOWARD.
Most companies offer interest free loans for solar, and its not just the well off that can afford it, from my observations its the whiny little rightards that have not been successful in life that whine the loudest.



Unless they're 'well off' enough to own their home, it doesn't matter whetehr they can afford the panels or not.  Nobody is going to put solar panels on a rental.

But why should I care - I already gots mine

Are you claiming you need to be 'well off' to have a mortgage now??
I live on the far north coast of NSW, near Byron, and yes prices are a bit pricey around here, but 30 minutes in land is the largest city on the far north coast,and you can buy a house there for 200 hundred grand, hardly expensive.



Depends how you define 'well-off'.  I'd put 'well off' as midway between 'battlers' and 'wealthy'.

So you don't need to be well off to have a mortgage do you?? even western Sydney would be affordable for most people, its just a whole to live in.



Yes, most do need to be well off to have a mortgage AND have the spare cash for a solar set up.  I might remind you that while house prices might be cheap in woopwoop, most people live in capital or major cities, where they're not so cheap.

Are you really so petty as to make an argument out of this?

I thought western Sydney was in a capital city, please explain??? look at the prices around Cambeltown and Green valley, then get back to us, I bet a mortgage would be comparable to rent in many of those places.


I live in Perth so I don't know, or care, about house prices in some suburbs of Sydney.  There's usually a reason why prices are much cheaper in one area than another.

So what you really meant was a mortgage is only for the well off in a sort after good suburb, yes that's true, why didn't you say that to begin with.
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Reply #33 - Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:37am
 
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:21am:
As they are  health care, a Liberal policy, no less.



As I said before, you lefties are totally against subsidies unless they are for you. I personally don't care, I just hate hypocracy.

The ' I'm alright, Jack' attitude is alive and well in the lefty mindset and isn't going anywhere soon.

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Reply #34 - Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:56am
 
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skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:21am:
As they are  health care, a Liberal policy, no less.



As I said before, you lefties are totally against subsidies unless they are for you. I personally don't care, I just hate hypocracy.

The ' I'm alright, Jack' attitude is alive and well in the lefty mindset and isn't going anywhere soon.


So you refuse private health care as you dont want to be a hypocrite no matter that it may be to the  detriment to you and your family, well good for you. Cheesy
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Reply #35 - Nov 16th, 2011 at 11:13am
 
Electricity supply is the responsibility of the States not the Federal Government.....States sell off the power companies to private enterprises who can then charge consumers for full cost recovery of the infrastructure that out taxes built....So in fact taxpayers are paying for the Infrastructure twice so States can wipe their hands of any responsibility......Privatization is something that only works when their is competition to keep prices down, In electricity generation this is usually not the case and private companies end up with monopolies!!!


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Reply #36 - Nov 16th, 2011 at 11:14am
 
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:43am:
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the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.



Yes, indeed, "making money" at the expense of those who don't get a solar panel rebate,
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Reply #37 - Nov 16th, 2011 at 11:14am
 
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Yes, thank you, B-Labor and foul-smellin' Greens!

If not electricity being cut off, tardy-paying customers get a letter advising them to seek another supplier.

Maybe GayBob should be put in a mud hut with a box of matches and a package of candles - see how he'd fare--

This is the sexual in-between who is at the steering wheel of our nation.


You do realize Electricity is the realm of Private Corporations, right? The same companies you, as a conservative would wish to side with. Their actions are not Labors responsibility.



And you realise that power only went up (doubled, in my case) since '07 when Kevin '07 led Labor to victory with the thundering cheers of Rudd's "working families" these who are now starving to feed their children and living by candle light if not camping on the streets.

Well done, Labor/Greens/Independents voters!

And how better life will be after next July when we'll cheer in the carbon tax!




You do realize that power supply is a State issue dont you....It has nothing to do with the Federal Government you silly old woman???

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Reply #38 - Nov 16th, 2011 at 11:17am
 
olde.sault wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 11:14am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:43am:
cods wrote- Quote:
the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.



Yes, indeed, "making money" at the expense of those who don't get a solar panel rebate,

Just like private health care, did you condemn Howard for that?? or are you so big a hypocrite to actually be bludging off it?
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Reply #39 - Nov 16th, 2011 at 11:19am
 
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:59am:
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BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:25am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:43am:
cods wrote- Quote:
the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.




All nicely subsidised by the Australian taxpayer; solar power is a very expensive freebie indeed, especially for those who are too poor to afford it, as they are paying extra for those that can.

I do love how lefties hate anyone being subsidied for anything, unless it is themselves of course.  Grin



I think you will find the subsidy isn't what it was 12 months ago bigol as the government have gone over to a 'solar credit' scheme.
And I would suggest that there was no government subsidy at all when Skip got his installed way back when.

Not true chook. It was much more expensive, but I got 12 grands worth of solar for 6 grand in those days, the same set up today would only cost 3 grand.
If I'd been in QLD I'd have got much more of a rebate, the QLD state gov were also offering rebates where as I only got a federal rebate from the good old lying little rodent.



In addition, there's more sun-power in Q-land.
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Reply #40 - Nov 16th, 2011 at 11:22am
 
olde.sault wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 11:14am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:43am:
cods wrote- Quote:
the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.



Yes, indeed, "making money" at the expense of those who don't get a solar panel rebate,



People do tend to exaggerate their 'success' with solar power.  Unless he's bought a very large system, and has very low consumption (and lives alone) I can guarantee he'd have got a bill, at least during winter.
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Reply #41 - Nov 16th, 2011 at 11:23am
 
olde.sault wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 11:19am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:59am:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:51am:
BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:25am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:43am:
cods wrote- Quote:
the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.




All nicely subsidised by the Australian taxpayer; solar power is a very expensive freebie indeed, especially for those who are too poor to afford it, as they are paying extra for those that can.

I do love how lefties hate anyone being subsidied for anything, unless it is themselves of course.  Grin



I think you will find the subsidy isn't what it was 12 months ago bigol as the government have gone over to a 'solar credit' scheme.
And I would suggest that there was no government subsidy at all when Skip got his installed way back when.

Not true chook. It was much more expensive, but I got 12 grands worth of solar for 6 grand in those days, the same set up today would only cost 3 grand.
If I'd been in QLD I'd have got much more of a rebate, the QLD state gov were also offering rebates where as I only got a federal rebate from the good old lying little rodent.



In addition, there's more sun-power in Q-land.

Well, yes, there is on the whole more sun power in QLD, but considering I live less than an hour from the border that argument is pretty mute. Its like saying Bondi has more sun power than Newtown.
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Reply #42 - Nov 16th, 2011 at 11:25am
 
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:21am:
BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:13am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:35am:
BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 9:25am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:43am:
cods wrote- Quote:
the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.




Howard didn't subsidise sh1t, it was the Australian taxpayer that paied for your free electricity and is now paying your brother.



All nicely subsidised by the Australian taxpayer; solar power is a very expensive freebie indeed, especially for those who are too poor to afford it, as they are paying extra for those that can.

I do love how lefties hate anyone being subsidied for anything, unless it is themselves of course.  Grin


Yep ,subsidised just like private health funds, that Howard introduced. In fact when I got my solar it was subsidised too, by HOWARD.
Most companies offer interest free loans for solar, and its not just the well off that can afford it, from my observations its the whiny little rightards that have not been successful in life that whine the loudest.



Howard didn't subsidise jack, the Australian taxpayer paid for everything and are continuing to pay for your 'free' electricity.


As they are  health care, a Liberal policy, no less.


I always got the best of the dollar under the Coalition so I'll be deliriously happy when Abbott wins the next election.

Long live Abbott (and he doesn't look bad in his budgie smugglers)  or is it "snugglers" ?

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Reply #43 - Nov 16th, 2011 at 11:28am
 
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:56am:
BigOl64 wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:37am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 10:21am:
As they are  health care, a Liberal policy, no less.



As I said before, you lefties are totally against subsidies unless they are for you. I personally don't care, I just hate hypocracy.

The ' I'm alright, Jack' attitude is alive and well in the lefty mindset and isn't going anywhere soon.


So you refuse private health care as you dont want to be a hypocrite no matter that it may be to the  detriment to you and your family, well good for you. Cheesy



Is english your second language?

I said I don't care (about subsidies), I stated I hated the hypocracy of the left, demanding subsidies for themselves and trying to deny it to others.

Read it a couple of times before you roll out your standard responce, it just makes you look stupid and lazy.

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Reply #44 - Nov 16th, 2011 at 11:28am
 
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olde.sault wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 11:14am:
skippy. wrote on Nov 16th, 2011 at 8:43am:
cods wrote- Quote:
the so called renewable will be no different

They are for me, I haven't had a power bill for nine years.
My brother in law had quarterly bills of 400 bucks, he got solar early this year, hasn't paid a bill since, in fact, he's making money.



Yes, indeed, "making money" at the expense of those who don't get a solar panel rebate,



People do tend to exaggerate their 'success' with solar power.  Unless he's bought a very large system, and has very low consumption (and lives alone) I can guarantee he'd have got a bill, at least during winter.

You prove you have no idea every time you press the post button.
My brother in law, is making more power than he uses,and thanks to the generous scheme from NSW Labor, actually earns money as well as receives free power, only numnuts with no idea about solar or the scheme would write such crap.
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