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Re: where do refugees get money from for boat trip ?
Reply #90 - Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:19pm

Gist wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:16pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

How so? Well first it was "no they don't get more" but now it's become "ok so they do get more - so what?"

I don't care what "mellie" said. Are you not arguing with MY statements? Go and read what I have said, and then come back to me.

Let's be very specific. YOUR burden of proof is to show that refugees on PPVs once released into the community are provided free food, shelter and medical treatment by the government IN ADDITION TO centrelink benefits.

That's your claim seeing as you weren't talking about people in detention. I want to see your proof.

There you go again - trying to sneak extra conditions in there. The truth cannot be suckered in this manner.

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Re: where do refugees get money from for boat trip ?
Reply #91 - Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:20pm

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:19pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:16pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

How so? Well first it was "no they don't get more" but now it's become "ok so they do get more - so what?"

I don't care what "mellie" said. Are you not arguing with MY statements? Go and read what I have said, and then come back to me.

Let's be very specific. YOUR burden of proof is to show that refugees on PPVs once released into the community are provided free food, shelter and medical treatment by the government IN ADDITION TO centrelink benefits.

That's your claim seeing as you weren't talking about people in detention. I want to see your proof.

There you go again - trying to sneak extra conditions in there. The truth cannot be suckered in this manner.

Gist wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 11:40am:

wesley_no_truth, it'd be great if you engaged your brain before posting. You're just making yourself look like a total dill. Again.

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Re: where do refugees get money from for boat trip ?
Reply #92 - Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:23pm

Gist wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:20pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:19pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:16pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

How so? Well first it was "no they don't get more" but now it's become "ok so they do get more - so what?"

I don't care what "mellie" said. Are you not arguing with MY statements? Go and read what I have said, and then come back to me.

Let's be very specific. YOUR burden of proof is to show that refugees on PPVs once released into the community are provided free food, shelter and medical treatment by the government IN ADDITION TO centrelink benefits.

That's your claim seeing as you weren't talking about people in detention. I want to see your proof.

There you go again - trying to sneak extra conditions in there. The truth cannot be suckered in this manner.

Gist wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 11:40am:

wesley_no_truth, it'd be great if you engaged your brain before posting. You're just making yourself look like a total dill. Again.

Nope, the truth cannot be suckered in that manner either.

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Re: where do refugees get money from for boat trip ?
Reply #93 - Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:23pm

Gist wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:16pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

How so? Well first it was "no they don't get more" but now it's become "ok so they do get more - so what?"

I don't care what "mellie" said. Are you not arguing with MY statements? Go and read what I have said, and then come back to me.

Let's be very specific. YOUR burden of proof is to show that refugees on PPVs once released into the community are provided free food, shelter and medical treatment by the government IN ADDITION TO centrelink benefits.

That's your claim seeing as you weren't talking about people in detention. I want to see your proof.

me too.

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Reply #94 - Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:25pm

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:19pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:16pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

How so? Well first it was "no they don't get more" but now it's become "ok so they do get more - so what?"

I don't care what "mellie" said. Are you not arguing with MY statements? Go and read what I have said, and then come back to me.

Let's be very specific. YOUR burden of proof is to show that refugees on PPVs once released into the community are provided free food, shelter and medical treatment by the government IN ADDITION TO centrelink benefits.

That's your claim seeing as you weren't talking about people in detention. I want to see your proof.

There you go again - trying to sneak extra conditions in there. The truth cannot be suckered in this manner.

So you admit you were lying/wrong,wes? good we can move on.

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Reply #95 - Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:27pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:25pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:19pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:16pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

How so? Well first it was "no they don't get more" but now it's become "ok so they do get more - so what?"

I don't care what "mellie" said. Are you not arguing with MY statements? Go and read what I have said, and then come back to me.

Let's be very specific. YOUR burden of proof is to show that refugees on PPVs once released into the community are provided free food, shelter and medical treatment by the government IN ADDITION TO centrelink benefits.

That's your claim seeing as you weren't talking about people in detention. I want to see your proof.

There you go again - trying to sneak extra conditions in there. The truth cannot be suckered in this manner.

So you admit you were lying/wrong,wes? good we can move on.

show me an example of where I was wrong.

Show me, or shut up.

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Re: where do refugees get money from for boat trip ?
Reply #96 - Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:28pm

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:27pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:25pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:19pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:16pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

How so? Well first it was "no they don't get more" but now it's become "ok so they do get more - so what?"

I don't care what "mellie" said. Are you not arguing with MY statements? Go and read what I have said, and then come back to me.

Let's be very specific. YOUR burden of proof is to show that refugees on PPVs once released into the community are provided free food, shelter and medical treatment by the government IN ADDITION TO centrelink benefits.

That's your claim seeing as you weren't talking about people in detention. I want to see your proof.

There you go again - trying to sneak extra conditions in there. The truth cannot be suckered in this manner.

So you admit you were lying/wrong,wes? good we can move on.

show me an example of where I was wrong.

Show me, or shut up.

Your every post in this thread. Take your pick.

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Reply #97 - Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:30pm

Gist wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:28pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:27pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:25pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:19pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:16pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

How so? Well first it was "no they don't get more" but now it's become "ok so they do get more - so what?"

I don't care what "mellie" said. Are you not arguing with MY statements? Go and read what I have said, and then come back to me.

Let's be very specific. YOUR burden of proof is to show that refugees on PPVs once released into the community are provided free food, shelter and medical treatment by the government IN ADDITION TO centrelink benefits.

That's your claim seeing as you weren't talking about people in detention. I want to see your proof.

There you go again - trying to sneak extra conditions in there. The truth cannot be suckered in this manner.

So you admit you were lying/wrong,wes? good we can move on.

show me an example of where I was wrong.

Show me, or shut up.

Your every post in this thread. Take your pick.

Well if all of them are wrong, it shouldn't be hard for you to pick one.

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Re: where do refugees get money from for boat trip ?
Reply #98 - Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:32pm

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:30pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:28pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:27pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:25pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:19pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:16pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

How so? Well first it was "no they don't get more" but now it's become "ok so they do get more - so what?"

I don't care what "mellie" said. Are you not arguing with MY statements? Go and read what I have said, and then come back to me.

Let's be very specific. YOUR burden of proof is to show that refugees on PPVs once released into the community are provided free food, shelter and medical treatment by the government IN ADDITION TO centrelink benefits.

That's your claim seeing as you weren't talking about people in detention. I want to see your proof.

There you go again - trying to sneak extra conditions in there. The truth cannot be suckered in this manner.

So you admit you were lying/wrong,wes? good we can move on.

show me an example of where I was wrong.

Show me, or shut up.

Your every post in this thread. Take your pick.

Well if all of them are wrong, it shouldn't be hard for you to pick one.

Any one of my posts in this thread. They all show where you are wrong. Why would I waste my time showing it to you AGAIN?

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Re: where do refugees get money from for boat trip ?
Reply #99 - Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:34pm

Gist wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:32pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:30pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:28pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:27pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:25pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:19pm:

Gist wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:16pm:

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

How so? Well first it was "no they don't get more" but now it's become "ok so they do get more - so what?"

I don't care what "mellie" said. Are you not arguing with MY statements? Go and read what I have said, and then come back to me.

Let's be very specific. YOUR burden of proof is to show that refugees on PPVs once released into the community are provided free food, shelter and medical treatment by the government IN ADDITION TO centrelink benefits.

That's your claim seeing as you weren't talking about people in detention. I want to see your proof.

There you go again - trying to sneak extra conditions in there. The truth cannot be suckered in this manner.

So you admit you were lying/wrong,wes? good we can move on.

show me an example of where I was wrong.

Show me, or shut up.

Your every post in this thread. Take your pick.

Well if all of them are wrong, it shouldn't be hard for you to pick one.

Any one of my posts in this thread. They all show where you are wrong. Why would I waste my time showing it to you AGAIN?

Becasue if you don't I'll just keep going on and on and on and on and on and on...............

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Re: where do refugees get money from for boat trip ?
Reply #100 - Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:46pm

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 9:59am:

Kat wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 6:22am:

This utter BS about asylum-seekers getting more than our pensioners has
been thoroughly discredited so many times it isn't funny.

And STILL idiot conservatives believe it.

Thick, or what?

Well no, it hasn't been discredited, nor is it possibe to do so.

Because you see, while their monetary 'allowance' might'nt be any different, pensioners don't receive free food, housing, dental, cigarettes etc etc. In case you didn't know how it works, pensioners have to exchange currency for these goods and services.

Refugees also don't receive free food, housing, dental and cigarettes.

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Reply #102 - Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:46pm

... wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 10:32am:

skippy. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 10:28am:

matty wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 10:23am:

Kat wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 6:22am:

This utter BS about asylum-seekers getting more than our pensioners has
been thoroughly discredited so many times it isn't funny.

And STILL idiot conservatives believe it.

Thick, or what?

Kat, as The Truth said, we "idiot conservatives" realise the truth. Pensioners (and no other Australians for that matter) are getting free housing, dental care, cigarettes, tvs, etc...

God you are even more stupid than I first thought, what do you expect we do with refugees? hey? should we just not feed them or house them? come on what should we do ? short of letting them out into the community, which you also object to what is your solution?

Maybe we do have to feed them, clothe them and house them - The fact remains that we DO, while we DON'T do the same for pensioners. Therefore, refugees DO get more than pensioners, and saying they don't is dishonest.

We don't feed, clothe or house refugees.

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Reply #104 - Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:50pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 17^th, 2011 at 12:46pm:

wes wrote- Quote:

No, because if refugees are paid at the same rate as pensioners, but have essential goods and services provided free of charge, while pensioners have to pay for them out of their own pocket

This claim is wrong/an intentional lie.

Skip, just have fun with this guy. The deluded ones are heaps of fun! Wink

He fails to recognise the difference between people in mandatory detention and those who have been granted refugee status. A bit of a loon - it's totally hilarious.

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