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Reply #30 - Nov 17th, 2011 at 3:23pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 2:50pm:
Belgarion wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 1:53pm:
We don't know the ins and outs of this arrangement yet. It may be that the facilities built for the US forces are integrated into the Australian base and there will not be the 'little America' setup common to US overseas bases. However if this is to be a permanent arrangement I can see the US eventually wanting to construct the facilities their people are used to on an overseas posting.

It may not reach the totally self sufficient stage it does in other parts of the world, but the US personnel stationed there will not need to shop in the local community for all their needs either.



Here's the 'ins and outs', they will be based at Robertson Barracks, it's an Australian military facility, they will intergrate with the standards of the base as they have always done in the past.

Yeh, that's right the US has had a semi-permenant presence on Australian bases before and that caused a huge problem didn't it?

They did not:

build their own base within our base

import their food from the US

expand exponetially from the argeed contingent

commit crimes against Australians and evade justice.

You people are carrying on like we're being friggen invaded and taken over by the US.  Angry



I saw with my own eyes the setup at NAVCOMSTA H E Holt. It was a little piece of  America set down in Australia, to the extent that on base traffic drove on the right. Exmouth was a small, isloted community that could not provide all the things needed  therefore they imported most of it - including food, but the precedent is there should the US wish to become more self sufficient in Darwin.

This is not a continuing rotation of troops on a temprary basis for training purposes, but a permanent deplyment. The longer this arrangement goes on the more likely the US will want to provide its own facilites.
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Reply #31 - Nov 17th, 2011 at 4:24pm
 
Belgarion wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 3:23pm:
I saw with my own eyes the setup at NAVCOMSTA H E Holt. It was a little piece of  America set down in Australia, to the extent that on base traffic drove on the right. Exmouth was a small, isloted community that could not provide all the things needed  therefore they imported most of it - including food, but the precedent is there should the US wish to become more self sufficient in Darwin.

This is not a continuing rotation of troops on a temprary basis for training purposes, but a permanent deplyment. The longer this arrangement goes on the more likely the US will want to provide its own facilites.



Now you're talking about US spy bases on our soil, which are stand alone US / Aust spy facilities, mostly US. These are nothing like a small semi-permenant contingent of US servicemen and women based at Australian defence establishements, as is the case here.

While apples and oranges are both fruit, they are not the same fruit.


As for your assertion "This is not a continuing rotation of troops on a temprary basis for training purposes, but a permanent deplyment".

Well that's exactly what it is. This has all been done before, we have had small US military contingents stationed on our bases since the viet nam war and guess what, it wasn't a prelude to an all out invasion then and it isn't now.


Under the deal, announced by Barack Obama and Julia Gillard last night, US military and air force personnel will rotate through Northern Territory bases for six months each year during the Top End's dry season.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/united-states-armed-forces-to-hold-regular-training-exercises-in-australia-as-part-of-historic-deal-announced-during-us-president-barack-obamas-visit/story-e6freooo-1226197114955

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Reply #32 - Nov 17th, 2011 at 4:30pm
 
you invite polar bears to dinner they'll sit anywhere they frigging want.
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Reply #33 - Nov 17th, 2011 at 8:14pm
 
corporate_whitey wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 8:47am:
chicken_lipsforme wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 7:42am:
corporate_whitey wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 5:15am:
Last night I heard on the controlled state media the host interviewing a Dr James Curren from the US Studies Center and Senior Lecturer in the Dept of History at Sydney university seriously discussing the possibility of setting up a US base in Australia the same as Guantanamo Bay - a facility where people can be taken, to be interrogated, tortured and held without due process indefinitely.  They concluded Australian public opinion may not be at that level...yet.  So they are weighing up just how far they can take the suspension of democracy and the imposition of fascism all the time.  I will use the footage in an up coming youtube vlog I will be doing on the forth coming armed US occupation of Australia.


Pure science fiction and nothing more.

Really how is what I just reported science fiction?   I only reported accurately what I heard on the States own controlled media, what I have recorded video footage of and what they themselves touted.  On a daily basis they are rolling out the fascism and militarization of Australias - which is science fiction - my impartial analyses or your implausible denials of the facts?  I reported what I intend to verify in my Vlog, the people can judge for themselves if the State intends to open Guantanamo style detention centers in Australia or place us on a war footing with China with armed US forces on our shore.



I am strongly in favour of fascists amerikkkan occupation  - as long as you are upset and apoplectic. I consider it a small price.

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