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Cannabis, it's time to have the debate (Read 7501 times)
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Reply #45 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 1:01am
 
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The only problem with pot is that some people  will inevitably abuse it -
in the same way that one person can have just a small glass of wine with their
dinner & others become alcoholics & ruin their lives.


I don't really think that you have any perspective there at all bobby.

Pot is not like that. It's very hard to abuse it. Most likely you will fall asleep well before you get any chance to abuse it. And abuse is rarely possible under any circumstance.

It's not an addictive drug, get it?
ie: your body will not crave that particular chemical as it does for caffeine and other Mc. Substances.





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Reply #46 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 3:24am
 
So when people are desparate and out on the baggy hunt that takes hours and they drive all over town in a desparate bid to score some pot, this is not driven by addiction.

I'm not sure I buy it. It may not have the physical addiction aspects of heroin or alchohol but maybe there is the mental side to it's addictive properties.
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Reply #47 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 10:53am
 
Amadd wrote on Nov 20th, 2011 at 1:01am:
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The only problem with pot is that some people  will inevitably abuse it -
in the same way that one person can have just a small glass of wine with their
dinner & others become alcoholics & ruin their lives.


I don't really think that you have any perspective there at all bobby.

Pot is not like that. It's very hard to abuse it. Most likely you will fall asleep well before you get any chance to abuse it. And abuse is rarely possible under any circumstance.

It's not an addictive drug, get it?ie: your body will not crave that particular chemical as it does for caffeine and other Mc. Substances.










then WHY is it illegal??

you guys all claim it is sooo innocent... so why is it ILLEGAL???
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Reply #48 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 11:16am
 
cods wrote on Nov 20th, 2011 at 10:53am:
Amadd wrote on Nov 20th, 2011 at 1:01am:
Quote:
The only problem with pot is that some people  will inevitably abuse it -
in the same way that one person can have just a small glass of wine with their
dinner & others become alcoholics & ruin their lives.


I don't really think that you have any perspective there at all bobby.

Pot is not like that. It's very hard to abuse it. Most likely you will fall asleep well before you get any chance to abuse it. And abuse is rarely possible under any circumstance.

It's not an addictive drug, get it?ie: your body will not crave that particular chemical as it does for caffeine and other Mc. Substances.










then WHY is it illegal??

you guys all claim it is sooo innocent... so why is it ILLEGAL???




Vested financial interests, and an opportunity to persecute minorities.

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Reply #49 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 11:46am
 
Kat wrote on Nov 20th, 2011 at 11:16am:
cods wrote on Nov 20th, 2011 at 10:53am:
Amadd wrote on Nov 20th, 2011 at 1:01am:
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The only problem with pot is that some people  will inevitably abuse it -
in the same way that one person can have just a small glass of wine with their
dinner & others become alcoholics & ruin their lives.


I don't really think that you have any perspective there at all bobby.

Pot is not like that. It's very hard to abuse it. Most likely you will fall asleep well before you get any chance to abuse it. And abuse is rarely possible under any circumstance.

It's not an addictive drug, get it?ie: your body will not crave that particular chemical as it does for caffeine and other Mc. Substances.










then WHY is it illegal??

you guys all claim it is sooo innocent... so why is it ILLEGAL???




Vested financial interests, and an opportunity to persecute minorities.

Historical fact.




bull rushes and you know it...

how come so many believe the science of climat change..


yet not the science of cannabis... so many reports have been printed up on this...of course from both sides... no more than they have with climate change..

yet they only choose to believe one side..I think thats a male thing you know..

how about NIMBIM.. isnt that the pot town of NSW...and dont they sit around in a daze most of the time? or is that all the fresh air.
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Reply #50 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 2:25pm
 
Its not illegal because its addictive,what a stupid statement, if that were the case tobacco and alcohol would be illegal. Pot is illegal because of a beat up by pharmaceutical companies in the 1940s.I wish people at least attempted to find something out about a subject before they wrote crap on it.
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Reply #51 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 2:50pm
 
Equitist wrote on Nov 18th, 2011 at 11:35am:
I believe that cannabis should be decriminalised and that its medicinal and other health potential ought to be fully investigated.



They have - in great detail  Smiley Here are some arguments against and pro -cannabis in summary.  Note that being unbiased, I close with the arguments in favour. Make up your own mind.

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Marijuana isn't really very good for you. True, there are health benefits for some patients. [but...] Frequent marijuana use can seriously affect your short-term memory. It can impair your cognitive ability (why do you think people call it dope?) and lead to long-lasting depression or anxiety. While many people smoke marijuana to relax, it can have the opposite effect on frequent users. And smoking anything, whether it's tobacco or marijuana, can seriously damage your lung tissue...Despite all the talk about the medical benefits of marijuana, smoking the stuff is not going to do your health any good."

Sanjay Gupta, MD, Chief Medical Correspondent for CNN. "Why I Would Vote No on Pot." Time magazine. Nov. 6, 2006

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"Marijuana and Its Receptor Protein in Brain Control Epilepsy." Sep. 30, 2003: "Individuals both here and abroad report that marijuana has been therapeutic for them in the treatment of a variety of ailments, including epilepsy. But the psychoactive side effects of marijuana make its use impractical in the treatment of epilepsy. If we can understand how marijuana works to end seizures, we may be able to develop novel drugs that might do a better job of treating epileptic seizures


Robert DeLorenzo, MD, PhD, MPH, Professor of Neurology in the Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine.

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Reply #52 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 2:53pm
 
And smoking anything, whether it's tobacco or marijuana, can seriously damage your lung tissue...Despite all the talk about the medical benefits of marijuana, smoking the stuff is not going to do your health any good."


As a reformed smoker I totally agree with this, even tho no study has ever shown pot to cause lung cancer, smoking anything can surely not be good for you.
If you want to use pot I suggest a vaporizer or eat it.
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Reply #53 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 5:11pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 8:56pm:
qikvtec wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 7:21pm:
I have started this thread with the intention of bringing some information to Oz Politics members regarding Cannabis, it's medicinal and recreational use.

Mods there is a discussion going on in this thread, would you mind moving the Cannabis related posts from that thread here.

The war on drugs is not working, we need to address the problems as medical and not criminal issues (commercial quantities aside).

Portugal has led the way on the issue.

Let's discuss.

People, including most silver spooners, smoke cannabis to feel half able to come down from the meth to even entertain the possiblity about actually going to work on Monday!

PURE FACT!

YOU CAN'T SMOKE ALL THAT CRACK AND NOT USE WEED TO COME DOWN... BUT IT DOESN'T WORK!

SMOKING CRACK DESTRIOYS YOU AND DOPE JUST MAKES YOU HALF FEEL BETTER ABOUT EMBARRASING YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY SO THOUROUGHLY AND UTTERLY ON IT!

A bit of dopes alright but the hydros will kill your mind eventually!


Slowly reading through.

The most illinformed post yet.
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Reply #54 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 5:14pm
 
Amadd wrote on Nov 20th, 2011 at 1:01am:
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The only problem with pot is that some people  will inevitably abuse it -
in the same way that one person can have just a small glass of wine with their
dinner & others become alcoholics & ruin their lives.


I don't really think that you have any perspective there at all bobby.

Pot is not like that. It's very hard to abuse it. Most likely you will fall asleep well before you get any chance to abuse it. And abuse is rarely possible under any circumstance.

It's not an addictive drug, get it?
ie: your body will not crave that particular chemical as it does for caffeine and other Mc. Substances.







People don't and can't abuse pot use.....oh.....ok.

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Reply #55 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 5:16pm
 
qikvtec wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 9:48pm:
Lists of conditions known to be treated effectively with a harmless plant

Glaucoma
Period Pain
Anorexia
Cancer - if not directly related to tumour death, return of appetite, analgesia and deep restorative sleep.
Anxiety
Depression
General and severe pain
Epilepsy
MS
Parkinsons

The cost of policing this harmless yet incredibly valuable plant is enormous and could easily be better directed to studying the positive medical impacts, completely ignoring the obvious commercial benefits of fibre, oil and seeds.



Obviously you're not aware of the fact that there are similar legalised drugs currently manufactured and distributed by multinational corporations. Such drugs have similar properties and effects (in terms of molecular structure and pain relief) as cannabis.
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Reply #56 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 5:17pm
 
Amadd wrote on Nov 20th, 2011 at 1:01am:
Quote:
The only problem with pot is that some people  will inevitably abuse it -
in the same way that one person can have just a small glass of wine with their
dinner & others become alcoholics & ruin their lives.


I don't really think that you have any perspective there at all bobby.

Pot is not like that. It's very hard to abuse it. Most likely you will fall asleep well before you get any chance to abuse it. And abuse is rarely possible under any circumstance.

It's not an addictive drug, get it?
ie: your body will not crave that particular chemical as it does for caffeine and other Mc. Substances.







Hey?

People can't and don't abuse pot?

You're perspectiveless!! Cheesy
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Reply #57 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 5:39pm
 
MissFixItOrElse wrote on Nov 20th, 2011 at 5:16pm:
qikvtec wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 9:48pm:
Lists of conditions known to be treated effectively with a harmless plant

Glaucoma
Period Pain
Anorexia
Cancer - if not directly related to tumour death, return of appetite, analgesia and deep restorative sleep.
Anxiety
Depression
General and severe pain
Epilepsy
MS
Parkinsons

The cost of policing this harmless yet incredibly valuable plant is enormous and could easily be better directed to studying the positive medical impacts, completely ignoring the obvious commercial benefits of fibre, oil and seeds.



Obviously you're not aware of the fact that there are similar legalised drugs currently manufactured and distributed by multinational corporations. Such drugs have similar properties and effects (in terms of molecular structure and pain relief) as cannabis.


Welcome.

I think that is the whole point.

Oh by the way....the point (it's over there>>>you missed it Wink)
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Reply #58 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 8:23pm
 
Kat wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 9:28pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 19th, 2011 at 8:56pm:
qikvtec wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 7:21pm:
I have started this thread with the intention of bringing some information to Oz Politics members regarding Cannabis, it's medicinal and recreational use.

Mods there is a discussion going on in this thread, would you mind moving the Cannabis related posts from that thread here.

The war on drugs is not working, we need to address the problems as medical and not criminal issues (commercial quantities aside).

Portugal has led the way on the issue.

Let's discuss.

People, including most silver spooners, smoke cannabis to feel half able to come down from the meth to even entertain the possiblity about actually going to work on Monday!

PURE FACT!

YOU CAN'T SMOKE ALL THAT CRACK AND NOT USE WEED TO COME DOWN... BUT IT DOESN'T WORK!

SMOKING CRACK DESTRIOYS YOU AND DOPE JUST MAKES YOU HALF FEEL BETTER ABOUT EMBARRASING YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY SO THOUROUGHLY AND UTTERLY ON IT!

A bit of dopes alright but the hydros will kill your mind eventually!



And that made absolutely no sense whatsoever.


Probably the crack.
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One trouble with political jokes is that they often get elected.

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Reply #59 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 8:24pm
 
MissFixItOrElse wrote on Nov 20th, 2011 at 5:16pm:
qikvtec wrote on Nov 17th, 2011 at 9:48pm:
Lists of conditions known to be treated effectively with a harmless plant

Glaucoma
Period Pain
Anorexia
Cancer - if not directly related to tumour death, return of appetite, analgesia and deep restorative sleep.
Anxiety
Depression
General and severe pain
Epilepsy
MS
Parkinsons

The cost of policing this harmless yet incredibly valuable plant is enormous and could easily be better directed to studying the positive medical impacts, completely ignoring the obvious commercial benefits of fibre, oil and seeds.



Obviously you're not aware of the fact that there are similar legalised drugs currently manufactured and distributed by multinational corporations. Such drugs have similar properties and effects (in terms of molecular structure and pain relief) as cannabis.


And your point is?  Of course there is; ever checked the potential side effect warning LIST on most prescription drugs?
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Politicians and Nappies need to be changed often and for the same reason.

One trouble with political jokes is that they often get elected.

Alan Joyce for PM
 
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