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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Why criminalise kronic/k2? Reply #30 - Nov 29^th, 2011 at 9:27pm 'How could you legalise something life destroying like meth?' - AAnthrax Off topic AA- a much more problematical issue, as of now. But like they say -- you gotta crawl before you walk.... and..another analogy 'if you take care of the pennies the pounds take care of themselves.
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Reply #31 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:25am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 9:04pm:

How could you legalise something life destroying like meth?

Did you know that illegal alcohol during the Prohibition period was life destroying due to the high volume of alcohol. When they made it legal, equally they had the power to control the volumes of alcohol... although still, for many, Alcohol is life destroying.

Likewise, if meth was made legal, then they could control the amount of active ingredient contained within the substance.

That's the powerful part of legalizing drugs... all of a sudden it is the Government that controls the price and quantity of active ingredient.

It's all about choice... Choose your poison m'dear.

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Reply #32 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:55am

yeah and I think its also about who should derive a benefit - criminals,........ or govt , and therefore the people.

I vote for people etc over crims anyday. But all these strange straights 'd rather enrich criminals and terrorists!!!
Don't ask me why - makes no sense to me that they'd rather have their children paying crims, rather than 'tax'.

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Why criminalise kronic/k2? Reply #33 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 6:22am Emma wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:55am: I vote for people etc over crims anyday. But all these strange straights 'd rather enrich criminals and terrorists!!! "Strange straights" Yeah, alcohol's bad, but wait till you've seen enough shambling psychopathic wrecks from using the white goods...
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Reply #34 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 7:30am

Sappho wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:25am:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 9:04pm:

How could you legalise something life destroying like meth?

Likewise, if meth was made legal, then they could control the amount of active ingredient contained within the substance.

That's the powerful part of legalizing drugs... all of a sudden it is the Government that controls the price and quantity of active ingredient.

It's all about choice... Choose your poison m'dear.

You'd have to drastically alter meth to make it safe. If controlling the active ingredient has an effect on the high, then there'd still be a market for home-made meth lab products. What will have changed?

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Reply #35 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 8:01pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 6:22am:

Emma wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:55am:

I vote for people etc over crims anyday. But all these strange straights 'd rather enrich criminals and terrorists!!!

"Strange straights" Grin

Yeah, alcohol's bad, but wait till you've seen enough shambling psychopathic wrecks from using the white goods...

Been there done that !!

and I'm sure you'll make of that what you can.

Honestly?????
....... After .. near - on .. 55 yrs on this planet, ( Huh

) ( i don' believe'it Shocked

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DRUNKS are the worst.! Sad

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Reply #36 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 7:34am

Emma wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 8:01pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 6:22am:

Emma wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:55am:

I vote for people etc over crims anyday. But all these strange straights 'd rather enrich criminals and terrorists!!!

"Strange straights" Grin

Yeah, alcohol's bad, but wait till you've seen enough shambling psychopathic wrecks from using the white goods...

DRUNKS are the worst.! Sad

Overall.

Well, there's more of them, that's for sure... And there's nothing good to say about being a drunk.

But anyone who's had to bar up their house like Fort Knox to stop their heroin addicted grown kids from breaking in and stealing a TV, entertainment equipment, a fridge, jewellery etc... to feed their habit... Or leave town and not leave a forwarding address to be rid of them... May have a different story.

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: Why criminalise kronic/k2? Reply #37 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 2:33pm Or anyone who has been sexually abused by a parent with meth induced hypersexuality. Or beaten up by their super aggressive tweaking out spouse.
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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Why criminalise kronic/k2? Reply #38 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 8:15pm Helian..AA...i don't deny what you are saying.. I just cannot see how maintaining the current policies will change anything.. it'll just be more of the same, evidence your comments.. Imagine if your heroin-addicted adult child didn't have to chase hishit down on the street. Can you imagine that?
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: Why criminalise kronic/k2? Reply #39 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 8:17pm That's what methadone clinics are for.
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Reply #40 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 8:54pm

Emma wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 8:15pm:

Helian..AA...i don't deny what you are saying..

I just cannot see how maintaining the current policies will change anything.. it'll just be more of the same, evidence your comments..

Imagine if your heroin-addicted adult child didn't have to chase hishit down on the street.

Can you imagine that?

Any legislator whose worth his/her salt would not, in good conscience, allow drug addiction to be the fate of the citizens they're charged with protecting...

Can you imagine a legislator, in good conscience, allowing this to be the fate of those in their charge? Or the death of them as a consequence of their doing nothing?

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Reply #41 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:08pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 8:54pm:

Emma wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 8:15pm:

Helian..AA...i don't deny what you are saying..

I just cannot see how maintaining the current policies will change anything.. it'll just be more of the same, evidence your comments..

Imagine if your heroin-addicted adult child didn't have to chase hishit down on the street.

Can you imagine that?

Any legislator whose worth his/her salt would not, in good conscience, allow drug addiction to be the fate of the citizens they're charged with protecting...

Can you imagine a legislator, in good conscience, allowing this to be the fate of those in their charge? Or the death of them as a consequence of their doing nothing?

They do it daily.

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Reply #42 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:16pm

Helian you are missing the point entirely. !!

Deliberate? i don't know Roll Eyes

.. if you could just think.....

Any legislator whose worth his/her salt would not, in good conscience, allow drug addiction to be the fate of the citizens they're charged with protecting...
Can you imagine a legislator, in good conscience, allowing this to be the fate of those in their charge? Or the death of them as a consequence of their doing nothing?

This is nonsensical Helian. Where has a LAW EVER stopped addictions??? OR deaths.??? Legislators couldn't know or care less..Hasn't worked for the last 50 yrs, and they know it, they must see it,, but here we still are.

The mystery is -WHY?????

Or - perhaps not so mysterious after all. Yeah?? Why??

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Reply #43 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:16pm

qikvtec wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:08pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 8:54pm:

Emma wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 8:15pm:

Helian..AA...i don't deny what you are saying..

I just cannot see how maintaining the current policies will change anything.. it'll just be more of the same, evidence your comments..

Imagine if your heroin-addicted adult child didn't have to chase hishit down on the street.

Can you imagine that?

Any legislator whose worth his/her salt would not, in good conscience, allow drug addiction to be the fate of the citizens they're charged with protecting...

Can you imagine a legislator, in good conscience, allowing this to be the fate of those in their charge? Or the death of them as a consequence of their doing nothing?

They do it daily.

Obviously you've never actually met a legislator.

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Reply #44 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:18pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:16pm:

qikvtec wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:08pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 8:54pm:

Emma wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 8:15pm:

Helian..AA...i don't deny what you are saying..

I just cannot see how maintaining the current policies will change anything.. it'll just be more of the same, evidence your comments..

Imagine if your heroin-addicted adult child didn't have to chase hishit down on the street.

Can you imagine that?

Any legislator whose worth his/her salt would not, in good conscience, allow drug addiction to be the fate of the citizens they're charged with protecting...

Can you imagine a legislator, in good conscience, allowing this to be the fate of those in their charge? Or the death of them as a consequence of their doing nothing?

They do it daily.

Obviously you've never actually met a legislator.

Did I miss that criminalisation of tobacco?

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