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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Why criminalise kronic/k2? Reply #45 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:20pm qikvtec wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:18pm: Did I miss that criminalisation of tobacco? I don't know, did you? How do you criminalise tobacco?
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Why criminalise kronic/k2? Reply #46 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:25pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:20pm: qikvtec wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:18pm: Did I miss that criminalisation of tobacco? I don't know, did you? How do you criminalise tobacco? You say, "You're nicked, sunshine!"
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Why criminalise kronic/k2? Reply #47 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:26pm Soren wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:25pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:20pm: qikvtec wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:18pm: Did I miss that criminalisation of tobacco? I don't know, did you? How do you criminalise tobacco? You say, "You're nicked, sunshine!" Yeah, of course... That'll work
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qikvtec Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1846 Queensland	Re: Why criminalise kronic/k2? Reply #48 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:29pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:20pm: qikvtec wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:18pm: Did I miss that criminalisation of tobacco? I don't know, did you? How do you criminalise tobacco? Sorry, the use, growth or manufacture thereof.
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qikvtec Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1846 Queensland	Re: Why criminalise kronic/k2? Reply #49 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:29pm Soren wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:25pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:20pm: qikvtec wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:18pm: Did I miss that criminalisation of tobacco? I don't know, did you? How do you criminalise tobacco? You say, "You're nicked, sunshine!" Boom Boom
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Re: Why criminalise kronic/k2?
Reply #50 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:30pm

qikvtec wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:29pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:20pm:

qikvtec wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:18pm:

Did I miss that criminalisation of tobacco?

I don't know, did you?

How do you criminalise tobacco?

Sorry, the use, growth or manufacture thereof.

well, by all means qikvtec, try and get yourself elected on that platform.

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Reply #51 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:36pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:30pm:

qikvtec wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:29pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:20pm:

qikvtec wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:18pm:

Did I miss that criminalisation of tobacco?

I don't know, did you?

How do you criminalise tobacco?

Sorry, the use, growth or manufacture thereof.

well, by all means qikvtec, try and get yourself elected on that platform.

I'm not saying it's ever likely; just pointing out the obvious error in your argument, since you were talking about in good conscience and all. How could any legislator in all good conscience allow the continued preventable deaths of 50 Australians per day due tobacco?

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Emma Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9853 OZ Gender:	Re: Why criminalise kronic/k2? Reply #52 - Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:47pm HMMMMMM?????? Helian?????????
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Reply #53 - Dec 2^nd, 2011 at 6:46am

qikvtec wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:36pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:30pm:

qikvtec wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:29pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:20pm:

qikvtec wrote on Dec 1^st, 2011 at 9:18pm:

Did I miss that criminalisation of tobacco?

I don't know, did you?

How do you criminalise tobacco?

Sorry, the use, growth or manufacture thereof.

well, by all means qikvtec, try and get yourself elected on that platform.

I'm not saying it's ever likely; just pointing out the obvious error in your argument, since you were talking about in good conscience and all. How could any legislator in all good conscience allow the continued preventable deaths of 50 Australians per day due tobacco?

Not an obvious error at all. Legislators of good conscience are working hard to eradicate this blight on a peoples' health. But how do you manage the prohibition of a 500 year old habit in the west which, (a) until barely 25 years ago was generally considered safe (b) was strongly associated with sport and sophistication and (c) had millions addicted?

Nearly every year legislators launch attacks on tobacco producers by (a) banning them from sponsoring public events, (b) banning them from advertising their product (c) banning even the branding of their product and (d) imposing massive tariffs on their product.

The cost of cigarette purchase is extraordinarily high for good reasons. Health and safety campaigns are regularly launched against the use of tobacco products. I can't imagine how much more legislators of good conscience could do to discharge their duty of care (being mindful of the suffering that would be imposed on millions of citizens, simultaneously struck with managing withdrawal from a highly addictive substance, which a complete ban would cause).

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Reply #54 - Dec 4^th, 2011 at 3:39am

well yeah you're talking about tobacco.............a product which has raked in many $ for the companies involved, and their share-holders, ....and caused unknowable numbers of deaths.

But - , this is hard but you can't legislate against people's tendencies, successfully.

We have the juggernauts of death grinding away . ..alcohol and tobacco.. known and proved to cause harm. Still they are legally available, although restricted by law to those 18 and over. And they generate massive revenue to govt. If people want to drink themselves to death .. that is their right. Sad but true.

The absolutely best thing we could do is legalise Pot, and its copies, on the same basis .. and use those huge freed up resources to police serious crime.
Because people will always do what they will, and some things, like the criminalisation of Pot, are unproductive and only serve to bolster crime. never could understand the rationale.! Angry

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