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Disunity is death
Nov 29^th, 2011 at 11:41am

The bulk of the story below resides behind the Murdoch paywall.

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Labor Left powerbroker Albanese backs change on same-sex marriage platform
• by: James Massola
• From: The Australian
• November 29, 2011 11:39AM
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LABOR Left powerbroker Anthony Albanese has backed the ALP changing its platform at national conference to support same-sex marriage, accusing his opponents of hypocrisy.

In a sign of the Left's growing confidence, Mr Albanese said delegates should be allowed a free vote at conference on the issue.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/labor-left-powerbroker-albanese-backs-change-on-same-sex-marriage-platform/story-fn59niix-1226209004617

As fellow Ozpolitics poster Crazy Horse reminds us disunity is death and not backing the leader means that a trip to the political gallows will be the final outcome.

Add the above sign of disunity to the vexing issue of *yellow cake (you can’t have your cake and eat it too) and according to Crazy Horse we have a party leader who is on the skids.

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*Re-elected Labor Party president Jenny McAllister says yes to gays, no to uranium

LABOR'S re-elected national president believes supporters of a conscience vote on gay marriage are yet to make a compelling case.

And Jenny McAllister says she has always been opposed to expanding uranium exports.

Ms McAllister, from the party's Left faction, was yesterday declared the winner of the month-long ballot for the figurehead role after more than 12,000 votes were lodged by members.

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/re-elected-labor-party-president-says-yes-to-gays-no-to-uranium/story-fn59niix-1226206539925

The bird of paradox may yet choke on yellow cake.

With all our problems - climate change sounding a tocsin; rising sea levels threatening all but good swimmers; hospitals in need of equipment; etc - we have one of the major political parties worried about whether Bruce and Brian can get married.

Australia - you're standing in it.

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The ALP, the progressive party, the party of ideas, the workers' friend, is the only Australian political party to roast four young Australians in roof cavities. SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!

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olde.sault

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Re: Disunity is death
Reply #1 - Nov 29^th, 2011 at 12:41pm

salad in wrote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 11:41am:

The bulk of the story below resides behind the Murdoch paywall.

Quote:

Labor Left powerbroker Albanese backs change on same-sex marriage platform
• by: James Massola
• From: The Australian
• November 29, 2011 11:39AM
• Increase Text Size
• Decrease Text Size
• Print

LABOR Left powerbroker Anthony Albanese has backed the ALP changing its platform at national conference to support same-sex marriage, accusing his opponents of hypocrisy.

In a sign of the Left's growing confidence, Mr Albanese said delegates should be allowed a free vote at conference on the issue.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/labor-left-powerbroker-albanese-backs-change-on-same-sex-marriage-platform/story-fn59niix-1226209004617

As fellow Ozpolitics poster Crazy Horse reminds us disunity is death and not backing the leader means that a trip to the political gallows will be the final outcome.

Add the above sign of disunity to the vexing issue of *yellow cake (you can’t have your cake and eat it too) and according to Crazy Horse we have a party leader who is on the skids.

Quote:

*Re-elected Labor Party president Jenny McAllister says yes to gays, no to uranium

LABOR'S re-elected national president believes supporters of a conscience vote on gay marriage are yet to make a compelling case.

And Jenny McAllister says she has always been opposed to expanding uranium exports.

Ms McAllister, from the party's Left faction, was yesterday declared the winner of the month-long ballot for the figurehead role after more than 12,000 votes were lodged by members.

[...]
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/re-elected-labor-party-president-says-yes-to-gays-no-to-uranium/story-fn59niix-1226206539925

The bird of paradox may yet choke on yellow cake.

With all our problems - climate change sounding a tocsin; rising sea levels threatening all but good swimmers; hospitals in need of equipment; etc - we have one of the major political parties worried about whether Bruce and Brian can get married.

Australia - you're standing in it.

The best way gays can be accepted as normal is for them to stop attracting attention..

In any case, who will remain Mr and who becomes Mrs - "outcomes" in heterosexual unions (borrowing Bob Oakeshott's favourite word).

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Reply #2 - Nov 29^th, 2011 at 12:46pm

LOL what a nothing thread, no wonder hardly anyone has bothered to reply. Gillard has already allowed a conscious vote on this, BUT Abbott refuses to, he's still trying to tow the extremist hard line, even tho many in the Libs agree with gay marriage and want a conscious vote. In fact the man most likely to topple phony tony has called for one, Mal Turnbull.

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Reply #3 - Nov 29^th, 2011 at 5:23pm

skippy. wrote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 12:46pm:

LOL what a nothing thread, no wonder hardly anyone has bothered to reply. Gillard has already allowed a conscious vote on this, BUT Abbott refuses to, he's still trying to tow the extremist hard line, even tho many in the Libs agree with gay marriage and want a conscious vote. In fact the man most likely to topple phony tony has called for one, Mal Turnbull.

if the govt calls for a conscience vote does it only refer to their own side?? in which case it would only be the left that would vote and the right would automatically be a NO..I dont pay much attention to these things...sometimes when it comes to something like this.. its a cop out to give a conscience vote..this to was brought up before the election..

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Reply #4 - Nov 29^th, 2011 at 7:43pm

cods wrote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 5:23pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 12:46pm:

LOL what a nothing thread, no wonder hardly anyone has bothered to reply. Gillard has already allowed a conscious vote on this, BUT Abbott refuses to, he's still trying to tow the extremist hard line, even tho many in the Libs agree with gay marriage and want a conscious vote. In fact the man most likely to topple phony tony has called for one, Mal Turnbull.

if the govt calls for a conscience vote does it only refer to their own side?? in which case it would only be the left that would vote and the right would automatically be a NO..I dont pay much attention to these things...sometimes when it comes to something like this.. its a cop out to give a conscience vote..this to was brought up before the election..

Quite simply the conscience vote is to allow Gillard to save face. She stood firmly against same sex marriage believing it was popular with the electorate. Well she read that all wrong and now is slithering to find a way out without giving the opposition more amo.

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Reply #5 - Nov 29^th, 2011 at 7:48pm

nairbe wrote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 7:43pm:

cods wrote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 5:23pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 12:46pm:

LOL what a nothing thread, no wonder hardly anyone has bothered to reply. Gillard has already allowed a conscious vote on this, BUT Abbott refuses to, he's still trying to tow the extremist hard line, even tho many in the Libs agree with gay marriage and want a conscious vote. In fact the man most likely to topple phony tony has called for one, Mal Turnbull.

if the govt calls for a conscience vote does it only refer to their own side?? in which case it would only be the left that would vote and the right would automatically be a NO..I dont pay much attention to these things...sometimes when it comes to something like this.. its a cop out to give a conscience vote..this to was brought up before the election..

Quite simply the conscience vote is to allow Gillard to save face. She stood firmly against same sex marriage believing it was popular with the electorate. Well she read that all wrong and now is slithering to find a way out without giving the opposition more amo.

THE MAJORITY DON'T WANT SAME SEX MARRIAGE! Shocked

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Reply #6 - Nov 29^th, 2011 at 7:58pm

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 7:48pm:

nairbe wrote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 7:43pm:

cods wrote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 5:23pm:

skippy. wrote on Nov 29^th, 2011 at 12:46pm:

LOL what a nothing thread, no wonder hardly anyone has bothered to reply. Gillard has already allowed a conscious vote on this, BUT Abbott refuses to, he's still trying to tow the extremist hard line, even tho many in the Libs agree with gay marriage and want a conscious vote. In fact the man most likely to topple phony tony has called for one, Mal Turnbull.

if the govt calls for a conscience vote does it only refer to their own side?? in which case it would only be the left that would vote and the right would automatically be a NO..I dont pay much attention to these things...sometimes when it comes to something like this.. its a cop out to give a conscience vote..this to was brought up before the election..

Quite simply the conscience vote is to allow Gillard to save face. She stood firmly against same sex marriage believing it was popular with the electorate. Well she read that all wrong and now is slithering to find a way out without giving the opposition more amo.

THE MAJORITY DON'T WANT SAME SEX MARRIAGE! Shocked

What do you mean, the majority of politicians or the majority of the community. I know we all live in our own bubble but i don't find people around me could give a flying flap landers about same sex marriage and those that discuss it find the whole thing laughable as marriage is a church thing and why would gay's want the blessing of the very group that has always oppressed them? just strange but if they want it who cares we have rather more important things to concern ourselves about.

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Disunity is death Reply #7 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 8:09am if the govt calls for a conscience vote does it only refer to their own side?? Yes.
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