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Re: Pretext for war with Iran
Reply #15 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:08pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:06pm:

... wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:03pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 11:57am:

We have to sort Iran out.

So far they have not dropped nuclear weapons that they don't have.

Just Like Iraq, they were hiding weapons of mass destruction that they didn't have.

They are surrounding Iran and they are surrounding China.

Who next? Iran.

After Iran?....anywhere!

Well yes, we do need to 'sort Iran out'.....Simply because if they DO ever get nuclear weapons (and there are some pretty strong indications that they're trying) the current regime would actually use them....

Which is quite different to the case of Iraq...

Who would they use them on?

Israel??? Puhleez. If they dropped a nuke on israel, israel would drop 100 back, and all the nations in the world would carve up the carcass of Iran.

They're not that stupid. They are not a threat.

President Imanutjob would do it.....he IS that stupid.....It's only the Islamic religious ruling party that's kept him on a leash so far...

Where do you get your propaganda?

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Re: Pretext for war with Iran
Reply #16 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:09pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 11:54am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 11:53am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 11:37am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 11:29am:

what's the bet the Iranian protesters are CIA operatives dressed up in the appropriate attire Wink

Nothing like a false flag operation to setup a pretext for war Wink

I always said that the next stop was going to be Iran and how convenient it is that Afghanistan is a neighbour of Iran. Ideal for a US military base Wink

There you have it. That is why they are still in Afghanistan Wink

Now you're starting to sound like Wharfy(it_is_the_light)....

So the invasion of Iraq was all about the Weapons of Mass Deception was it Cheesy

LOL

No, it was about GW Bush wanting to finish what his daddy started....

Don't make the mistake of thinking the CIA 'needed' to incite the pro-government faction in Iran to attack westerns.....the Iranian president does that on a regular basis anyway....

That's why they need something out of left field. They can't possibly justify an invasion on something that people are complacent with !! The US bitching about nukula weapons in Iran is like the boy that cried wolf !!

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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Pretext for war with Iran Reply #17 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:11pm Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:06pm: It will sever ties between Iran and Syria that are important to both countries. Perhaps, but the death toll from the internal troubles is getting towards the point where SOMEONE needs to do something...
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Re: Pretext for war with Iran
Reply #18 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:11pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:08pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:06pm:

... wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:03pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 11:57am:

We have to sort Iran out.

So far they have not dropped nuclear weapons that they don't have.

Just Like Iraq, they were hiding weapons of mass destruction that they didn't have.

They are surrounding Iran and they are surrounding China.

Who next? Iran.

After Iran?....anywhere!

Well yes, we do need to 'sort Iran out'.....Simply because if they DO ever get nuclear weapons (and there are some pretty strong indications that they're trying) the current regime would actually use them....

Which is quite different to the case of Iraq...

Who would they use them on?

Israel??? Puhleez. If they dropped a nuke on israel, israel would drop 100 back, and all the nations in the world would carve up the carcass of Iran.

They're not that stupid. They are not a threat.

President Imanutjob would do it.....he IS that stupid.....It's only the Islamic religious ruling party that's kept him on a leash so far...

Where do you get your propaganda?

From listening to his speeches...

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Re: Pretext for war with Iran
Reply #19 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:12pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:06pm:

... wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:03pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 11:57am:

We have to sort Iran out.

So far they have not dropped nuclear weapons that they don't have.

Just Like Iraq, they were hiding weapons of mass destruction that they didn't have.

They are surrounding Iran and they are surrounding China.

Who next? Iran.

After Iran?....anywhere!

Well yes, we do need to 'sort Iran out'.....Simply because if they DO ever get nuclear weapons (and there are some pretty strong indications that they're trying) the current regime would actually use them....

Which is quite different to the case of Iraq...

Who would they use them on?

Israel??? Puhleez. If they dropped a nuke on israel, israel would drop 100 back, and all the nations in the world would carve up the carcass of Iran.

They're not that stupid. They are not a threat.

President Imanutjob would do it.....he IS that stupid.....It's only the Islamic religious ruling party that's kept him on a leash so far...

I don't think he's stupid. All the 'zany outbursts' he's made have been pretty accurate. His only 'crime' is not couching his remarks in politically correct doublespeak. Well, maybe not his ONLY crime, but his reputation for being a nutjob is undoubtedly a fabrication by the big boys.

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Re: Pretext for war with Iran
Reply #20 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:12pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 11:57am:

We have to sort Iran out.

So far they have not dropped nuclear weapons that they don't have.

Just Like Iraq, they were hiding weapons of mass destruction that they didn't have.

They are surrounding Iran and they are surrounding China.

Who next? Iran.

After Iran?....anywhere!

Well yes, we do need to 'sort Iran out'.....Simply because if they DO ever get nuclear weapons (and there are some pretty strong indications that they're trying) the current regime would actually use them....

Which is quite different to the case of Iraq...

Don't be stupid. There are no winners with nukes !! The countries with nukes only use them as a deterrent.

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: Pretext for war with Iran Reply #21 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:14pm Oh don't get me wrong. I'd love to see Assad go - handed over to the people would be lovely. Out of all the revolutions in the Middle East, this is the regime I would like to see fall most. But it'll further isolate Iran.
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Re: Pretext for war with Iran
Reply #22 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:16pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:12pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:01pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 11:57am:

We have to sort Iran out.

So far they have not dropped nuclear weapons that they don't have.

Just Like Iraq, they were hiding weapons of mass destruction that they didn't have.

They are surrounding Iran and they are surrounding China.

Who next? Iran.

After Iran?....anywhere!

Well yes, we do need to 'sort Iran out'.....Simply because if they DO ever get nuclear weapons (and there are some pretty strong indications that they're trying) the current regime would actually use them....

Which is quite different to the case of Iraq...

Don't be stupid. There are no winners with nukes !! The countries with nukes only use them as a deterrent.

Tell that to the Japanese, and to all those Americans who spent the middle of October 1962 sleeping in fallout shelters...

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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Pretext for war with Iran Reply #23 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:16pm Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:14pm: Oh don't get me wrong. I'd love to see Assad go - handed over to the people would be lovely. Out of all the revolutions in the Middle East, this is the regime I would like to see fall most. But it'll further isolate Iran. A revolution, or an invasion Annie??
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Pretext for war with Iran Reply #24 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:20pm Or South Koreans who have watched several Taepong Dong missiles fired into the sea in 'exercises'. Or how about to Israelis who during Gulf War I, when Israel was a neutral country, sawl Haifa and Tel Aviv targetted by missile fire. Yeah, no danger at all eh?
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Re: Pretext for war with Iran
Reply #25 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:22pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:16pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:14pm:

Oh don't get me wrong. I'd love to see Assad go - handed over to the people would be lovely. Out of all the revolutions in the Middle East, this is the regime I would like to see fall most.

But it'll further isolate Iran.

A revolution, or an invasion Annie??

What do you mean?

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Re: Pretext for war with Iran
Reply #26 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:30pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:20pm:

Or South Koreans who have watched several Taepong Dong missiles fired into the sea in 'exercises'.

Or how about to Israelis who during Gulf War I, when Israel was a neutral country, sawl Haifa and Tel Aviv targetted by missile fire.

Yeah, no danger at all eh?

You'll have to go back a lot further than that.

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When was the last time Iran started a war?

This can't be right (can it?), but the last time I can find for a truly aggressive Iran was the first half of the 18th Century, under the reign of Nadir Shah (1688-1747), who attacked everybody nearby, including Turkey, Oman, and Afghanistan. In 1739, he invaded India, sacked Delhi, and brought home Shah Jehan's Peacock Throne (whose gold and jewels were worth about $1 billion at today's commodity prices) and the Koh-i-Noor diamond (now a 186 carat gem in the Tower of London).

http://isteve.blogspot.com/2006/01/when-was-last-time-iran-started-war.html

haven't started a war fro 300 years. So when was the last time say...The US started a war? Oh...only a few months. Sad

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Re: Pretext for war with Iran
Reply #27 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:31pm

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:22pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:16pm:

Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:14pm:

Oh don't get me wrong. I'd love to see Assad go - handed over to the people would be lovely. Out of all the revolutions in the Middle East, this is the regime I would like to see fall most.

But it'll further isolate Iran.

A revolution, or an invasion Annie??

What do you mean?

Which do you think would further isolate Iran, Ahmadinejad being ousted, or the US invading??

Or more isolate?

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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Take the plan, spin it sideways Posts: 7057 Gender:	Re: Pretext for war with Iran Reply #28 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:38pm When I was speaking about changing the regime, I meant Assad. I want to see him go.
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Pretext for war with Iran Reply #29 - Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:41pm Annie Anthrax wrote on Nov 30^th, 2011 at 12:38pm: When I was speaking about changing the regime, I meant Assad. I want to see him go. Oh sorry, thought you meant Iran, not Syria...
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