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Re: 500 lashes for blasphemy.
Reply #15 - Dec 12^th, 2011 at 8:44pm

falah wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 8:38pm:

It is very clever of you to pretend that Western justice is not barbaric because they do not use floggings.

Let us all remember which society has used until recently electrocution as a punishment.

In Australian jails, strip searching is common practice. The Vietnam War protesters known as the Fairlea Five were strip-searched in prison by male guards.

http://vietnam-war.commemoration.gov.au/conscription/images/sos/fairlea/JE297_28...
The Fairlea Five.
This photograph shows the Fairlea Five reunited at the Anti-Vietnam War Moratorium 20th anniversary. From left to right they are Joan Coxsedge, Jean McLean, Chris Cathie, Jo Maclaine-Cross and Irene Miller.

‘Prison was hell’ screamed the headlines in Melbourne on 19 April 1971. ‘The five women released from prison yesterday all lost weight during their eleven days behind bars’.
http://vietnam-war.commemoration.gov.au/conscription/save-our-sons_fairlea-five.php

In April 1971 five SOS women were sentenced to 14 days in Fairlea Women’s Prison for handing out anti-conscription leaflets to men registering for national service. The charge was trespass.
http://vietnam-war.commemoration.gov.au/conscription/save-our-sons.php

Strip searching as sexual assault
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb6655/is_2_27/ai_n28885411/?tag=content;col1

Falah .. have you got something for us that did not happen in the year I was born?

We're referring to NOW .. ie 2011!

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: 500 lashes for blasphemy. Reply #16 - Dec 12^th, 2011 at 8:47pm Falah .. could you please read my post .. again??
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Re: 500 lashes for blasphemy.
Reply #17 - Dec 12^th, 2011 at 8:49pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 8:44pm:

Falah .. have you got something for us that did not happen in the year I was born?

We're referring to NOW .. ie 2011!

What have they stopped strip searches since then?

You can be sent to jail for political protest in Australia and then be sexually assaulted. Then you have the nerve to say a flogging is barbaric.

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Re: 500 lashes for blasphemy.
Reply #18 - Dec 12^th, 2011 at 10:45pm

falah wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 8:49pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 8:44pm:

Falah .. have you got something for us that did not happen in the year I was born?

We're referring to NOW .. ie 2011!

What have they stopped strip searches since then?

You can be sent to jail for political protest in Australia and then be sexually assaulted. Then you have the nerve to say a flogging is barbaric.

Yes - flogging is barbaric but strip seaches are often necessary in high security prisons.
Strip seaches are done in every country in the world.

Falah - your argument is so weak -
you can't justify the caning in the video I posted.
Also - 500 lashes - now reduced to 25.
I bet you couldn't take one of them?

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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 106424 Melbourne Gender:	Re: 500 lashes for blasphemy. Reply #19 - Dec 12^th, 2011 at 11:35pm Christianity used to cause people to be burnt at the stake for blasphemy but it modernised. Now you only have to say 3 hail Marys & 5 holy Fathers. The Muslims are still back 1500 years ago. It seems that the photo doesn't work after FDs changes.
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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: 500 lashes for blasphemy. Reply #20 - Dec 13^th, 2011 at 8:34am Unlike Christianity, burnings have never been allowed in Islam.
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Re: 500 lashes for blasphemy.
Reply #21 - Dec 13^th, 2011 at 4:16pm

falah wrote on Dec 13^th, 2011 at 8:34am:

Unlike Christianity, burnings have never been allowed in Islam.

But lashing someone 500 times, or beheading,
or burying someone up to their waist & stoning them to death,
or gouging out their eyes or cutting their hand or penis off is still permissible.

Can't you see that this is not acceptable?

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Re: 500 lashes for blasphemy.
Reply #22 - Dec 13^th, 2011 at 4:35pm

falah wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 8:49pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 12^th, 2011 at 8:44pm:

Falah .. have you got something for us that did not happen in the year I was born?

We're referring to NOW .. ie 2011!

What have they stopped strip searches since then?

You can be sent to jail for political protest in Australia and then be sexually assaulted. Then you have the nerve to say a flogging is barbaric.

Hang on .. who said anything about political protest? Thanks for deflecting from my earlier question because it clearly shows you couldn't answer it.

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Reply #23 - Dec 13^th, 2011 at 4:37pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13^th, 2011 at 4:16pm:

lashing someone 500 times, or beheading,
or burying someone up to their waist & stoning them to death,
or gouging out their eyes or cutting their hand or penis off is still permissible.

Can't you see that this is not acceptable?

Unfortunately, denial has the power to prevent people like Falah from seeing the sad and sorry truth.

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Re: 500 lashes for blasphemy.
Reply #24 - Dec 13^th, 2011 at 4:46pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13^th, 2011 at 4:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13^th, 2011 at 4:16pm:

lashing someone 500 times, or beheading,
or burying someone up to their waist & stoning them to death,
or gouging out their eyes or cutting their hand or penis off is still permissible.

Can't you see that this is not acceptable?

Unfortunately, denial has the power to prevent people like Falah from seeing the sad and sorry truth.

Thanks Lisa,
He can't see my point that these Muslims are no better than those
who performed the Inquisition atrocities.
At least the churches have apologised for their old behaviour now -
but it did take them a long time.

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Re: 500 lashes for blasphemy.
Reply #25 - Dec 13^th, 2011 at 6:15pm

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13^th, 2011 at 4:46pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13^th, 2011 at 4:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13^th, 2011 at 4:16pm:

lashing someone 500 times, or beheading,
or burying someone up to their waist & stoning them to death,
or gouging out their eyes or cutting their hand or penis off is still permissible.

Can't you see that this is not acceptable?

Unfortunately, denial has the power to prevent people like Falah from seeing the sad and sorry truth.

Thanks Lisa,
He can't see my point that these Muslims are no better than those
who performed the Inquisition atrocities.
At least the churches have apologised for their old behaviour now -
but it did take them a long time.

You raise an interesting point given Falah tends to respond with anachronistic comparisons.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 96384	Re: 500 lashes for blasphemy. Reply #26 - Dec 13^th, 2011 at 11:23pm Islam is no better or worse. In Thailand, executions are done with a machine gun. But before they kill you, you get 300 lashes. With barbed wire. And Thais are Buddhists.
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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: 500 lashes for blasphemy. Reply #27 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 12:02am ...A white cloth blindfold is applied and the hands tied with a sacred Buddhist cord. Flowers are hung from the prisoner’s hands as an offering to Buddha and a canvas screen is pulled between the condemned and the gun...
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falah Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3162	Re: 500 lashes for blasphemy. Reply #28 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 12:12am Western "Civility"?
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Re: 500 lashes for blasphemy.
Reply #29 - Dec 14^th, 2011 at 8:54am

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13^th, 2011 at 6:15pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13^th, 2011 at 4:46pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Dec 13^th, 2011 at 4:37pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 13^th, 2011 at 4:16pm:

lashing someone 500 times, or beheading,
or burying someone up to their waist & stoning them to death,
or gouging out their eyes or cutting their hand or penis off is still permissible.

Can't you see that this is not acceptable?

Unfortunately, denial has the power to prevent people like Falah from seeing the sad and sorry truth.

Thanks Lisa,
He can't see my point that these Muslims are no better than those
who performed the Inquisition atrocities.
At least the churches have apologised for their old behaviour now -
but it did take them a long time.

You raise an interesting point given Falah tends to respond with anachronistic comparisons.

And he is STILL doing it too!

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