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Howard launches 'anti-warmist manual' for kids
Dec 13th, 2011 at 2:41pm
 
Former prime minister John Howard has lent his support to a book aimed at school children which argues the theory of human-induced global warming is a scam.

Last night, the former prime minister launched the publication, the latest from controversial geologist Professor Ian Plimer.

The book, called How to Get Expelled From School, rejects the predominant scientific opinion on climate change.

The book is billed as "an anti-global warmist manual for the younger reader".

Professor Plimer launched the book, a follow up to his book Heaven and Earth, at the Sydney Mining Club.

The new work includes 101 questions which it says students can use to challenge their teachers on climate science.

Professor Plimer says worried parents prompted him to write the book.

"After Heaven and Earth came out I had many parents write to me and say, 'Look, what do we do, our kids are being fed activism. I want my children to have the basics of scientists, I don't want to be fed activism'," he said.

Mr Howard helped launch the book and last night said the "progressive left" had a "grip on the commanding heights of education instruction in this country".

He also clarified why he went to the 2007 election promising an emissions trading scheme.

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"I proposed an emissions trading scheme and some people say, 'Well why on earth did you do that?'" he said.

"[It was] predicated on the rest of the world moving in the same direction and also predicated on a structure that would preserve the international competitiveness of those industries that gave our country a competitive trade advantage, it could do no harm."

A peak body representing science teachers says Mr Howard does not understand the way science is taught in schools.

Science Teachers' Association of NSW president Margaret Watts says Mr Howard is wrong when he says climate change has a "significant capture" on the education system.

"What science teachers do is put all of the facts, pro and con, against any topic, whatever it is, and show the children how to work through the evidence," she said.

Ms Watts says its clear Mr Howard does not understand the current syllabus.

The launch came only around 24 hours after the conclusion of climate change talks in Durban, at which the major emitters, the US, China and India, agreed to work towards a global binding pact.

Mr Howard also gave his thoughts on what the Durban talks had achieved.

"My reading of what was agreed at Durban was that there was an agreement to commence some negotiations in the hope of reaching an agreement," he said.

"Now, there's nothing wrong with that. I mean ... I have been involved in many international conferences where there has been agreement to have a further discussion in the hope of reaching an agreement.

"I once was involved in that in relation to trying to bring about the removal of a tyrant called Robert Mugabe, he's still there."

Attendees to the book launch said they thought Professor Plimer delivered an interesting, well-balanced speech.

"He brought up a lot of points that I hadn't thought about. So it was very good," one attendee said.

Another attendee said: "He's got a sensible attitude to the science. And he's a well known geologist and as he says geology isn't welcomed in the science debate."

Guests to the book launch were greeted outside by members of the Australian Youth Climate Coalition.
"We're here to remind people that it's so irresponsible to put out false science when the science is in," coordinator Kirsty Albion said.
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Reply #1 - Dec 13th, 2011 at 3:01pm
 
101 questions ay!!!

well, let's have 'em:....?!!?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #2 - Dec 13th, 2011 at 5:43pm
 
Just heard an interview on radio now at 6.35 Plimer was caught out on 3 lies. However, thats not the point. the point is he was constantly background babbling , sounding  like my thick brother when defending his wrong doings...so similar it made me sick .

there is something  about people like him that boarders on crazy.
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Reply #3 - Dec 13th, 2011 at 6:49pm
 
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Just heard an interview on radio now at 6.35 Plimer was caught out on 3 lies. However, thats not the point. the point is he was constantly background babbling , sounding  like my thick brother when defending his wrong doings...so similar it made me sick .

there is something  about people like him that boarders on crazy.



You think your brother is thick? Now that is funny.

Yep some are bordering on crazy but it isn't your brother vegie. Try looking a little closer to home.
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Reply #4 - Dec 13th, 2011 at 6:55pm
 
Business career.
He is a director of three Australian mining companies: Ivanhoe, CBH Resources and Kefi Minerals. In 2010, he was appointed chairperson of the board for TNT Mines Limited. He is also listed as a director of Australia-based coal gas company Ormil Energy.

In 2008 and 2009, according to a columnist in The Age, Plimer earned over A$400,000 from these interests, and he has mining shares and options worth hundreds of thousands of Australian dollars. Plimer rejects claims of a conflict between his commercial mining interests and his view that man-made climate change is a myth.
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Nup!!

No conflict of interest there.
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Reply #5 - Dec 13th, 2011 at 6:57pm
 
blackadder wrote on Dec 13th, 2011 at 6:49pm:
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Just heard an interview on radio now at 6.35 Plimer was caught out on 3 lies. However, thats not the point. the point is he was constantly background babbling , sounding  like my thick brother when defending his wrong doings...so similar it made me sick .

there is something  about people like him that boarders on crazy.



You think your brother is thick? Now that is funny.

Yep some are bordering on crazy but it isn't your brother vegie. Try looking a little closer to home.



get F888ed
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Reply #6 - Dec 13th, 2011 at 6:57pm
 
blackadder wrote on Dec 13th, 2011 at 6:49pm:
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Just heard an interview on radio now at 6.35 Plimer was caught out on 3 lies. However, thats not the point. the point is he was constantly background babbling , sounding  like my thick brother when defending his wrong doings...so similar it made me sick .

there is something  about people like him that boarders on crazy.



You think your brother is thick? Now that is funny.

Yep some are bordering on crazy but it isn't your brother vegie. Try looking a little closer to home.


And your input regarding the thread??

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Reply #7 - Dec 13th, 2011 at 7:00pm
 
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blackadder wrote on Dec 13th, 2011 at 6:49pm:
Quote:
Just heard an interview on radio now at 6.35 Plimer was caught out on 3 lies. However, thats not the point. the point is he was constantly background babbling , sounding  like my thick brother when defending his wrong doings...so similar it made me sick .

there is something  about people like him that boarders on crazy.



You think your brother is thick? Now that is funny.

Yep some are bordering on crazy but it isn't your brother vegie. Try looking a little closer to home.



get F888ed


Tut  tut, D.

Clowns are for laughing at.
Wink Wink>>
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Reply #9 - Dec 13th, 2011 at 7:07pm
 
Lobo wrote on Dec 13th, 2011 at 7:00pm:
Quote:
blackadder wrote on Dec 13th, 2011 at 6:49pm:
Quote:
Just heard an interview on radio now at 6.35 Plimer was caught out on 3 lies. However, thats not the point. the point is he was constantly background babbling , sounding  like my thick brother when defending his wrong doings...so similar it made me sick .

there is something  about people like him that boarders on crazy.



You think your brother is thick? Now that is funny.

Yep some are bordering on crazy but it isn't your brother vegie. Try looking a little closer to home.



get F888ed


Tut  tut, D.

Clowns are for laughing at.
Wink Wink>>



Yep I laugh at vegie with every post she makes.
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Reply #10 - Dec 13th, 2011 at 7:28pm
 
Lobo wrote on Dec 13th, 2011 at 6:55pm:
Business career.
He is a director of three Australian mining companies: Ivanhoe, CBH Resources and Kefi Minerals. In 2010, he was appointed chairperson of the board for TNT Mines Limited. He is also listed as a director of Australia-based coal gas company Ormil Energy.

In 2008 and 2009, according to a columnist in The Age, Plimer earned over A$400,000 from these interests, and he has mining shares and options worth hundreds of thousands of Australian dollars. Plimer rejects claims of a conflict between his commercial mining interests and his view that man-made climate change is a myth.
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Nup!!

No conflict of interest there.
Cheesy


Ivanhoe: Copper, Gold & Uranium Explorer

CBH Resources: (delisted) Silver, Zinc, Lead Producer

Kefi Minerals: Gold Explorer

All of these hardly conflicted when they have very little to do, emissions from extraction and exploration aside, with climate change.

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Politicians and Nappies need to be changed often and for the same reason.

One trouble with political jokes is that they often get elected.

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Reply #11 - Dec 13th, 2011 at 7:34pm
 
blackadder wrote on Dec 13th, 2011 at 7:07pm:
Lobo wrote on Dec 13th, 2011 at 7:00pm:
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blackadder wrote on Dec 13th, 2011 at 6:49pm:
Quote:
Just heard an interview on radio now at 6.35 Plimer was caught out on 3 lies. However, thats not the point. the point is he was constantly background babbling , sounding  like my thick brother when defending his wrong doings...so similar it made me sick .

there is something  about people like him that boarders on crazy.



You think your brother is thick? Now that is funny.

Yep some are bordering on crazy but it isn't your brother vegie. Try looking a little closer to home.



get F888ed


Tut  tut, D.

Clowns are for laughing at.
Wink Wink>>



Yep I laugh at vegie with every post she makes.


Still haven't added to the thread, I notice.
That would probably be because you have nothing intelligent to say.

No, not 'probably', definitely!!

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Reply #12 - Dec 13th, 2011 at 7:37pm
 
qikvtec wrote on Dec 13th, 2011 at 7:28pm:
Lobo wrote on Dec 13th, 2011 at 6:55pm:
Business career.
He is a director of three Australian mining companies: Ivanhoe, CBH Resources and Kefi Minerals. In 2010, he was appointed chairperson of the board for TNT Mines Limited. He is also listed as a director of Australia-based coal gas company Ormil Energy.

In 2008 and 2009, according to a columnist in The Age, Plimer earned over A$400,000 from these interests, and he has mining shares and options worth hundreds of thousands of Australian dollars. Plimer rejects claims of a conflict between his commercial mining interests and his view that man-made climate change is a myth.
Wink

Nup!!

No conflict of interest there.
Cheesy


Ivanhoe: Copper, Gold & Uranium Explorer

CBH Resources: (delisted) Silver, Zinc, Lead Producer

Kefi Minerals: Gold Explorer

All of these hardly conflicted when they have very little to do
, emissions from extraction and exploration aside,
with climate change.



You're right...
No conflict there.
Cheesy
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Reply #13 - Dec 13th, 2011 at 7:43pm
 
Lobo wrote on Dec 13th, 2011 at 7:37pm:
qikvtec wrote on Dec 13th, 2011 at 7:28pm:
Lobo wrote on Dec 13th, 2011 at 6:55pm:
Business career.
He is a director of three Australian mining companies: Ivanhoe, CBH Resources and Kefi Minerals. In 2010, he was appointed chairperson of the board for TNT Mines Limited. He is also listed as a director of Australia-based coal gas company Ormil Energy.

In 2008 and 2009, according to a columnist in The Age, Plimer earned over A$400,000 from these interests, and he has mining shares and options worth hundreds of thousands of Australian dollars. Plimer rejects claims of a conflict between his commercial mining interests and his view that man-made climate change is a myth.
Wink

Nup!!

No conflict of interest there.
Cheesy


Ivanhoe: Copper, Gold & Uranium Explorer

CBH Resources: (delisted) Silver, Zinc, Lead Producer

Kefi Minerals: Gold Explorer

All of these hardly conflicted when they have very little to do, emissions from extraction and exploration aside, with climate change.



You're right...
No conflict there.
Cheesy


The only "conflict" is the uranium, but in a world of declining coal use you'd have to think the scam he is deriding would be of significant benefit to his company. 
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Politicians and Nappies need to be changed often and for the same reason.

One trouble with political jokes is that they often get elected.

Alan Joyce for PM
 
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Reply #14 - Dec 13th, 2011 at 7:46pm
 
qikvtec wrote on Dec 13th, 2011 at 7:28pm:
Lobo wrote on Dec 13th, 2011 at 6:55pm:
Business career.
He is a director of three Australian mining companies: Ivanhoe, CBH Resources and Kefi Minerals. In 2010, he was appointed chairperson of the board for TNT Mines Limited. He is also listed as a director of Australia-based coal gas company Ormil Energy.

In 2008 and 2009, according to a columnist in The Age, Plimer earned over A$400,000 from these interests, and he has mining shares and options worth hundreds of thousands of Australian dollars. Plimer rejects claims of a conflict between his commercial mining interests and his view that man-made climate change is a myth.
Wink

Nup!!

No conflict of interest there.
Cheesy


Ivanhoe: Copper, Gold & Uranium Explorer

CBH Resources: (delisted) Silver, Zinc, Lead Producer

Kefi Minerals: Gold Explorer

All of these hardly conflicted when they have very little to do, emissions from extraction and exploration aside, with climate change.


Yeah - those minerals just levitate themselves out of the ground in their purist form without any mechanical intervention or refinement necessary.  Roll Eyes

I am starting to think it is a shame Howard didn't get the job with the ACB.  I think our cricketers need his input more than our educators do  Wink
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