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Slugged With Higher Rego Fees - Thanks Mr Baillieu
Dec 15^th, 2011 at 6:37am

MOTORISTS will be slugged with higher registration fees to pay for a $120 million blowout in the cost of the bungled VicRoads database. Sad

In a sweetener for car owners, quarterly payments will be introduced to soften the pain of an annual lump-sum payment.

Treasurer Kim Wells will today release the State Government's Budget update.

It was expected to reveal details on the extra $120 million that will be needed to pay for the new registration and licensing database.

The extra spending follows a report by Ombudsman George Brouwer last month, that found not enough money had been allocated to the project.

Mr Brouwer said the Brumby government under-funded it in 2008, and noted a request from VicRoads this year for $123 million was rejected.

He said the project should be funded as soon as possible, but said VicRoads had largely disbanded its project team.

Without an immediate injection of funds, the $52 million already spent on it would likely be wasted.

Mr Brouwer warned as early as 2005 the database needed replacement.

Another report by him in 2007 raised security concerns about licensing.

That report highlighted problems with identity fraud and the inaccuracy of the licensing database.

The existing systems are up to 23 years old, and are considered likely to collapse within five to eight years

Quarterly payments were not expected to be introduced until 2014, when the new registration and licensing database was operating.

Victoria is currently the only state with annual registration payments, with three or six-monthly options available in every other state and territory.

A six-monthly payment is available in Victoria only to concession card holders.

Facial recognition technology will be used to ensure there are no duplicate licences, one of the flaws of the current system.

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Verge Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6329 Gender:	Re: Slugged With Higher Rego Fees - Thanks Mr Baillieu Reply #1 - Dec 15^th, 2011 at 7:39am Maybe if the ALP government of the time had not underfunded it, it wouldnt be a problem would it imcrookcopypaste.
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Reply #2 - Dec 15^th, 2011 at 7:42am

Pretty daft to blame Mr Baillieu specifically. Are you just upset that Mr Baillieu does not allow you to use the obvious money tree or was it the infamous labor incompetence of the last government.

How dare Mr Baillieu make victoria pay for something when he could have just plucked the money from the tree for a project he had nothing to do with.

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Slugged With Higher Rego Fees - Thanks Mr Baillieu Reply #3 - Dec 15^th, 2011 at 7:51am He is the elected premier of Victoria. Rest assured he will be held to account on election day. Now having already putting public transport fares up, he now turns to increases in vehicle registration. Yes Mr Baillieu, we do take note of what you do.
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Reply #4 - Dec 15^th, 2011 at 7:54am

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He is the elected premier of Victoria. Rest assured he will be held to account on election day. Now having already putting public transport fares up, he now turns to increases in vehicle registration. Yes Mr Baillieu, we do take note of what you do. Sad

More like Mr Baillieu can remind the electorate of why they had to pay more for their rego and that reason was the infamous incompetence of a labor government.

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imcrookonit Ex Member	Re: Slugged With Higher Rego Fees - Thanks Mr Baillieu Reply #5 - Dec 15^th, 2011 at 8:20am So does that mean we get rid of a bad government, just to put another bad government back in place?.
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Reply #6 - Dec 15^th, 2011 at 8:26am

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So does that mean we get rid of a bad government, just to put another bad government back in place?. Sad

Well you have to get real and expect to pay for government incompetence. If Mr Baillieu is incompetent like the last government, then all well and good to hold him to account, but to infer that it is Mr Baillieu fault that you have to pay for the last governments incompetence is a bit rich.

And no, you dont want nor would you expect to rightfully get rid of one bad government, only to get a new bad government to replace them.

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Reply #7 - Dec 15^th, 2011 at 8:38am

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So does that mean we get rid of a bad government, just to put another bad government back in place?. Sad

Just because a government is elected, and has to clean up the mess from the previous government does not make them a 'bad' government.
They are doing what they were elected to do.
This is nothing more than a newly elected Liberal government having to swab up Labor's policy vandalism.
The same will occur here in QLD next year when labor are removed after 17 years in office.
And no doubt some taxes will rise.

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Reply #8 - Dec 15^th, 2011 at 10:33am

This "underfunded" excuse is NONSENSE !

buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 11:47am:

How Victoria has beaten NSW on every measure

April 28, 2011

It would be foolish for the Baillieu government to stall on big projects.

Australia has undertaken a recent experiment with low population growth - it's called New South Wales. What a failure it has been in the past five years, resulting in lower gross state product, higher state unemployment and loss of key industry opportunities.

Compare that with Victoria's economic performance, where more jobs have been added than in any other state in the past four years and consistently higher growth figures have been recorded. NSW has slipped from its post-2000 Olympics high, when it represented 35 per cent of Australia's gross domestic product, to 31 per cent now.

Victoria has prospered and grown, attracting more tertiary graduates and interstate and overseas migrants. We have had the highest level of housing starts on average of all the states, and more building approvals than NSW in real terms.

The Kennett government pursued strong economic growth, sound budgets and investment in infrastructure. My government and, subsequently, the Brumby government did the same and, in addition, invested our surpluses in service delivery.

The key challenge now is to continue with our state's policy leadership. It is vital that we invest in economic infrastructure projects, both new and those in progress.

On coming to power in 1999, the Bracks Government adopted a number of incomplete Kennett government projects - such as Federation Square, the County Court, Melbourne Museum and the CityLink toll - without question

and completed each without complaint

- there may be a lesson here for our new state government.

There was only one priority - providing for Victoria's future economic prosperity and enhanced lifestyle.

The challenge for the new Victorian government is to keep this momentum going. Stalling project development through

continuous reviews

will not help Victoria retain its leadership position.

Victoria will prosper if we can continue to encourage population growth through interstate and overseas migration.

We also need to keep the cost of doing business in Victoria as competitive as possible.

The government should ditch home stamp-duty cuts and instead use the money to further cut WorkCover premiums and payroll tax rates, since these cuts are more likely to generate jobs.

The government should also support industries that are part of Victoria's future, and get on with infrastructure projects.

The government has committed to new rail lines for Doncaster, Avalon and Tullamarine, as well as putting key overhead power lines underground. These are expensive projects that will add to domestic power bills and budget outlays, but they should proceed alongside existing projects.

To do otherwise will result in project delays, even more budget overruns and inevitable job losses.

We need to continue our policy leadership and not succumb to the

NSW disease

.

Steve Bracks was premier of Victoria from 1999 to 2007.
He is chairman of the superannuation fund CBus, non-executive director of the Bionic Ear Institute and envoy for Australia's automotive industry.

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Reply #9 - Dec 15^th, 2011 at 3:16pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 15^th, 2011 at 10:33am:

This "underfunded" excuse is NONSENSE !

It was expected to reveal details on the extra $120 million that will be needed to pay for the new registration and licensing database.

The extra spending follows a report by Ombudsman George Brouwer last month, that found not enough money had been allocated to the project.

Mr Brouwer said the Brumby government under-funded it in 2008, and noted a request from VicRoads this year for $123 million was rejected.

He said the project should be funded as soon as possible, but said VicRoads had largely disbanded its project team.

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buzzanddidj wrote on Apr 29^th, 2011 at 11:47am:

How Victoria has beaten NSW on every measure

April 28, 2011

It would be foolish for the Baillieu government to stall on big projects.

Australia has undertaken a recent experiment with low population growth - it's called New South Wales. What a failure it has been in the past five years, resulting in lower gross state product, higher state unemployment and loss of key industry opportunities.

Compare that with Victoria's economic performance, where more jobs have been added than in any other state in the past four years and consistently higher growth figures have been recorded. NSW has slipped from its post-2000 Olympics high, when it represented 35 per cent of Australia's gross domestic product, to 31 per cent now.

Victoria has prospered and grown, attracting more tertiary graduates and interstate and overseas migrants. We have had the highest level of housing starts on average of all the states, and more building approvals than NSW in real terms.

The Kennett government pursued strong economic growth, sound budgets and investment in infrastructure. My government and, subsequently, the Brumby government did the same and, in addition, invested our surpluses in service delivery.

The key challenge now is to continue with our state's policy leadership. It is vital that we invest in economic infrastructure projects, both new and those in progress.

On coming to power in 1999, the Bracks Government adopted a number of incomplete Kennett government projects - such as Federation Square, the County Court, Melbourne Museum and the CityLink toll - without question

and completed each without complaint

- there may be a lesson here for our new state government.

There was only one priority - providing for Victoria's future economic prosperity and enhanced lifestyle.

The challenge for the new Victorian government is to keep this momentum going. Stalling project development through

continuous reviews

will not help Victoria retain its leadership position.

Victoria will prosper if we can continue to encourage population growth through interstate and overseas migration.

We also need to keep the cost of doing business in Victoria as competitive as possible.

The government should ditch home stamp-duty cuts and instead use the money to further cut WorkCover premiums and payroll tax rates, since these cuts are more likely to generate jobs.

The government should also support industries that are part of Victoria's future, and get on with infrastructure projects.

The government has committed to new rail lines for Doncaster, Avalon and Tullamarine, as well as putting key overhead power lines underground. These are expensive projects that will add to domestic power bills and budget outlays, but they should proceed alongside existing projects.

To do otherwise will result in project delays, even more budget overruns and inevitable job losses.

We need to continue our policy leadership and not succumb to the

NSW disease

.

Steve Bracks was premier of Victoria from 1999 to 2007.
He is chairman of the superannuation fund CBus, non-executive director of the Bionic Ear Institute and envoy for Australia's automotive industry.

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Lobo Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 7406 Sydney Gender:	Re: Slugged With Higher Rego Fees - Thanks Mr Baillieu Reply #10 - Dec 15^th, 2011 at 3:44pm How come, in any election campaign, the opposition say that they have the 'smarts' to fix ALL the incumbents failures then, if elected, spend at least the next 12 months blaming the former mob when they have a problem?? They all do it!
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Reply #11 - Dec 15^th, 2011 at 4:16pm

FRED. wrote on Dec 15^th, 2011 at 3:16pm:

It was expected to reveal details on the extra $120 million that will be needed to pay for the new registration and licensing database.

The extra spending follows a report by Ombudsman George Brouwer last month, that found not enough money had been allocated to the project.

Mr Brouwer said the Brumby government under-funded it in 2008, and noted a request from VicRoads this year for $123 million was rejected.

He said the project should be funded as soon as possible, but said VicRoads had largely disbanded its project team.

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This "underfunded" excuse is NONSENSE !

When a goverment changes hands it takes over the funding responsability on existing projects in following budgets

Did Jeff Kennett "underfund" CityLink and Federation Square - because the Bracks' Government funded and completed the last half of these projects ?

Baillieu has tried this on with everything from the ongoing maintenence costs of the ONJ Cancer Centre - to the Monash Syncratron down to the Northern Rivers Irrigation Project - over their expected life-spans

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Reply #12 - Dec 15^th, 2011 at 4:23pm

progressiveslol wrote on Dec 15^th, 2011 at 7:54am:

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He is the elected premier of Victoria. Rest assured he will be held to account on election day. Now having already putting public transport fares up, he now turns to increases in vehicle registration. Yes Mr Baillieu, we do take note of what you do. Sad

More like Mr Baillieu can remind the electorate of why they had to pay more for their rego and that reason was the infamous incompetence of a labor government.

Really? So it is ok for Lord TED to promise the world then draw back on all his promises? But he can't blame Labor - he was left with a AAA rating, a modest surplus and no (liberal favourite here) big black hole?

Apart from MYKI - the Labor Party were very good in Victoria for the time they were in - this mob have failed on EVERY promise addressed to date

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Reply #13 - Dec 15^th, 2011 at 4:28pm

Lobo wrote on Dec 15^th, 2011 at 3:44pm:

How come, in any election campaign, the opposition say that they have the 'smarts' to fix ALL the incumbents failures then, if elected, spend at least the next 12 months blaming the former mob when they have a problem??

They all do it!

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Reply #14 - Dec 15^th, 2011 at 4:41pm

FRED. wrote on Dec 15^th, 2011 at 4:28pm:

Lobo wrote on Dec 15^th, 2011 at 3:44pm:

How come, in any election campaign, the opposition say that they have the 'smarts' to fix ALL the incumbents failures then, if elected, spend at least the next 12 months blaming the former mob when they have a problem??

They all do it!

Wink

A BIT LIKE GILLARD AND BOY BOWEN BLAMING ABBOTT FOR THEIR MORONIC FAILED REFUGE POLICY Grin

who blocked their policy Fred. Every boat that now comes to australia is here because of the Libs failure to support Gillard. They are arriving here in their thousands courtesy of Tony. Now, how many can we settle in your street? Come on, don't be standing up the back there - 2? 3? 4? Tell you what - to make sure they 'live up' to Liberal expectations, we will only send the professional ones - that way they will know how to hold a cocktail glass and which fork to use

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