juliar wrote on Dec 20^th, 2011 at 11:09am:
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It won't be long and all states will have laws requiring that noisy Bob Brown Windy Farms will need to be sited some distance from any residence that requests a separation.


Climate sceptics enter wind farm debate   BY BEN CUBBY AND JOSEPHINE TOVEY  20 Dec, 2011 04:00 AM
The anti-wind farm movement that is gaining influence within the NSW parliament is being ''aided and abetted'' by climate sceptic groups and some mining industry figures.

The cabinet debated new wind farm guidelines yesterday, with division over whether NSW should follow Victoria and order wind turbines be set further back from houses.

The Shooters and Fishers Party, which shares the balance of power in the NSW upper house with the Christian Democrats, announced yesterday that it wanted a moratorium on new wind farms in the state.

Industry sources said a campaign was being waged against wind energy in NSW, which was expected to see up to $10 billion in investment this decade as it accelerates to meet the national 20 per cent renewable energy target.

The opponents of wind farms include a coalition of local groups under the banner ''landscape guardians'', and the Australian Environment Foundation.

The foundation's executive director, Max Rheese, said, ''Our role is, if you like, aiding and abetting what the local communities are doing and helping them voice their disapproval over wind farms.''

While local groups say they believe that the noise and vibration produced by wind farms are affecting human health, the Australian Environment Foundation does not think humans have a role in causing climate change and therefore that wind farms are an expensive extravagance.

It hosted British climate sceptic Lord Monckton when he visited last year and says it ''questions the whole science behind anthropogenic global warming''.

Mr Rheese said the foundation had paid for anti-wind signs at public meetings, and lobbied the Shooters and Fishers Party, along with the National and Liberal parties in NSW.

''The AEF is keen to help, because a lot of communities are obviously bewildered when a wind farm proposal arrives out of nowhere,'' he said.

The Shooters and Fishers Party MP, Robert Borsak, said yesterday that it would wait for the Government's cabinet decision, but would use its critical position in the upper house to to oppose any pro-wind farm legislation that comes to parliament. The party had discussed wind farms with the Australian Environment Foundation but had come up with its own policy calling for a moratorium and public inquiry into wind turbines, Mr Borsak said.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/national/national/general/climate-sceptics-...

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 19^th, 2011 at 4:32pm:







( ... We assume you've lost your MODERATOR powers ?
Along with your CENSORSHIP powers ?)

Disaster !!  It is the middle of summer and a Bob Brown windy farm is about to start a bush fire and destroy a whole community.

This is the horrible noise that people are complaining about from the good old Bob Brown windy farms.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRWHr2ek_BQ&feature=endscreen&NR=1

It would certainly be most unpleasant to have to listen to this abrasive whoosh whoosh whoosh sound all the time. It would be nearly as bad as having to listen to Miss Gillard's vile ear breaking vocals for 1 minute. It is easy to understand how people living near this highly irritating noise would eventually suffer from health problems.

The sensible approach being taken by the Victorian Govt is to site these monstrosities a certain distance away from residences. This will allow residents and windy farms to live together peacefully. The other approach is to site the windy farms off shore and this completely removes the noise problem but off shore is more expensive. At least there is no bush fire problem if one of the turbine catches fire. There is the other problem that occurs when a rotor collapses and scatters debris over a considerable area - tough luck for anybody that is standing there.

juliar wrote on Dec 20^th, 2011 at 12:05pm:


What an absolute goose.

You have picked a good ID.
Just remove the Ju!

You know very well that this photo was taken in Britain, NOT Australia!
In Winter, Not Summer!
Caused by Gale Force winds!

When you have to resort to blatant lies in an attempt to prove your case, it's time to give the game away.

Think I'll save this post to my HD and pop it up every time you post drivel.
Crikek, it's going to get a lot of posting!!



Edit:
Even if it is off-topic with the BS you are posting at the time.

barnaby joe wrote on Dec 20^th, 2011 at 3:01pm:



Jujube/mellie is good at load/s of sh!t on any magnitude.

This is the noise from a windy farm some 1600 feet away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78QwBM_AD3s&feature=related

Some explanation from the nearby resident based on first hand experience from living nearby.
Industrial wind turbine noise varies with the atmosphere and terrain. Often one of the quietest places to stand near a turbine is right underneath it. It's a little like standing beneath a 400 foot tall speaker. Turbine noise is broadcast outward and is especially troublesome at night when the air near the ground is still and the air at hub height is in motion. Standing beneath a turbine in the afternoon is the way most people who do not live in wind farms make their judgement about wind turbine noise. They stand there, listen for a minute, take pictures and drive off, go home and tell their friends that wind turbines don't make noise.
People who live in wind farms know more about turbine noise than they ever wanted to, and can't just drive off. Next time you want to listen to turbines, try it at nighttime, about 1000 feet to a quarter mile downwind from a turbine to get a better idea about what all the noise about turbine noise is about. To find out more about this issue, visit betterplan.squarespace.com

The warning for anyone who might be getting a windy farm located near them is to object officially as early as possible.

Windy farms and CSG have a lot in common - they are great in someone else's neighborhood but to have one installed close to one's home is inviting long term disaster and inevitable health problems which will occur as a result of enduring long term stress.

Other problems experienced with windy farms is the spraying of oil on the ground, fire in the actual turbine, and the blade/s disintegrating and hurling large pieces of debris over quite a large area as the tips of the blades are travelling very fast. Otherwise they are quite a useful addition to the generation of energy - while the wind is blowing but not too fast.

This is a wind turbine flying to bits - hope nobody was anywhere close by
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=jADMIeEHadU

This is a wind turbine catching on fire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOfHxINzGeo

Wind power drives a wind turbine generator to make electricity, but judging from the number of wind turbine fires and other wind turbine accidents reported on YouTube alone, the wind turbine manufacturers must be having a field day replacing all the wind turbine units in farms specially built for wind turbines.

On Christmas Eve 2005, a wind turbine generator at the wind turbine farm of Nissan car plant in Sunderland caught fire at the top of one of the wind turbines, and the flames, fuelled by wind power, rapidly spread to the Wind Turbine sails before finally burning out.

Both lanes of the nearby A19 trunk road had to be closed to traffic because of the danger caused by the wind turbine fire, and the other wind turbines were stopped.

The towers of the wind turbines are 200 feet high to catch the maximum wind power, so the wind turbine generator was not accessible to fire crews.

Eventually, all 3 of the 75 foot long blades of the Wind Turbine, or what was left of them, dropped off.

The central power pack of the wind turbine generator at the top of the Wind Turbine mast is thought to be the cause of the fire, and these wind turbine accidents are not uncommon.

The 6 wind turbines were bought second hand from German wind turbine manufacturers, and there are many reports of wind turbine generator fires on the Internet.

Wind turbine accidents and wind turbine fires in the wind turbine generator units at the top of wind turbines in The Netherlands, Palm Springs CA, Hornslet near Aarhus, Denmark, and Burgos in Spain have all had accidents involving fire.

Wind Power supplies Nissan in Sunderland with just a small amount of power through 10 wind turbines.